[POLL] 4 months after Update 21: How do you now feel about the Racial Passive changes?

Zathras

The PTS feedback is over, the Update has been Live for 4 months, and now everyone has seen for themselves how their characters have changed. This cake has had some time to bake, and I'm wondering how palatable it is to the community.

Have you changed your race? Are you finding that the changes were beneficial to your preferred race? Or, maybe the changes were so negligible to how you play, that it didn't leave any impact.

For myself, I have always preferred a stealthy magic-user type character. So, after the Update, the Khajiit became (for me) the better alternative for that. I didn't nuke my old toons, or use a Race Change token, rather I simply re-rolled.

Aliyavana

Other (please explain)

I don't care about the bosmer losing stealth, I care about the fact that the changed racial isn't any better. It would have been fine to give us a racial that all playstyles would benefit from, but It is very impractical to roll dodge for extra penetration.

Seraphayel

Did not change my race. The changes were so minimal to me that there was no need to switch.

Very satisfied with 99% of the changes, no complaining here. Great job, ZOS.

Davor

Other (please explain)

Other. It has been out for one month on Xbox.

ArchMikem

Did not change my race. I'm loyal to a particular race, and won't change regardless.

I want my khajiit crit chance back. Crit damage doesnt matter at all when youre below 50% because of the change.

Jaraal

Other (please explain)

Did not change my race, but also did not agree with the changes at all. I just retired my guy.

Cundu_Ertur

Other (please explain)

Other:

I have 4 Bosmer 50+. 0 points wasted in Hunter's Eye. It is a garbage passive. Bosmer need their stealth back. Other than that (said Mrs. Lincoln) the remaining passives were good.

Argonians ought to have poison resistance in addition to their Disease resistance/effect immunity.

Tommy_The_Gun

Other (please explain)

I do think that racial rebalance was a failure. It did not delivered what it promised to do. It was just a meta - shift, with some races becoming BIS at more or less all roles & type of content, some being forced to play specific role (often without being even bis or close to bis) and other races became totally useless in all type of eso content at pretty much all roles in eso.

Note: I did not changed race, I almost only play my main and changing a race is not an option.

Irfind

Did not change my race. The race I was playing got even better in some way.

Stam Dunmer since day 1

vesselwiththepestle

Changed my race. I'm a min/maxer and the bonuses of another race are now preferred.

I play more than my main, though, and I really don't like the changes to Khajiit. I turns out that I am barely playing my Khajiits anymore.

Custos91

Other (please explain)

I barely play my Bosmers, but the new passive is stupid.
I don't care about the stealth thing, I do care about the fact that the new passive is highly situational, only usefull in pvp and only to damage builds.
With the other things Bosmer got, you can only make use of this passive with a stamDPS and probably even more so only in a CP campaign.

The abbility to passively throw a mudbal at your enemy every 10 seconds would be more useful, interesting and fun.
Useful because I would not get triggered by the useless passive Bosmer got currently.

Come on, Bosmer have TONS of lore they can use, I wrote it down somewhere...
among my ideas was:

Falinesti themed passive
Silvenar and green lady themed passive
Green pact passive
Spinner passive
Founder of the first Era
I had some more somewhere....

idk

Other (please explain)

The choices were to complicated for me to the point there was not a good response.

The passives are in the best place they have been since the game launched. They should be left alone and most of the threads I have seen asking for a change just want to make their race stronger which goes against the whole idea of the passive change Zos made.

Acharnor

Did not change my race. The changes were so minimal to me that there was no need to switch.

I just keep playing change after change, some good some bad and overall its still the same game to me! Long Live ESO!

KurtAngle2

Changed my race. A race that was underperforming in an area was improved, and now appeals to me.

We just need a minor tuning of most underpowered/op races and we're finally good to go. Looking at you Bosmers/Redguards/Argonians and Orcs

Greystag

Did not change my race. I'm loyal to a particular race, and won't change regardless.

I actually did change my race, but not because of the balance. I just got tired of being an Altmer and wanted to be a Khajiit, so I swapped. I did wait for the balance changes to arrive on the PTS, but that was just in case they made Khajiit super bad at healing, which didn't happen and I heal fine still. I would've changed race anyways, so this is IMO the answer that best fits me.

Edziu

Did not change my race. I'm loyal to a particular race, and won't change regardless.

and at all I didnt like this change...some changes in some races was good but for many it was to bad

Browiseth

Did not change my race. I'm loyal to a particular race, and won't change regardless.

see sig. the fact argonian hasn't been brought up a notch by now should be a warcrime.

Jaraal

Other (please explain)

See, here’s the thing. They don’t care if you’re happy with the changes or not. They posted a feedback thread on the PTS, got resounding disapproval, but did whatever they wanted to anyway.

Kadoin

Other (please explain)

Vowed to not use race change before patch even happened and kept vow...

Though I might use it to edit how one of my characters look!

Elwendryll

Did not change my race. I'm loyal to a particular race, and won't change regardless.

I sometimes miss the crit chances, but I just changed my builds accordingly, and now... I can play magicka. It's priceless. I can just have all my characters be khajiit without feeling like anything is wrong.

Zathras

Changed my race. A race that was underperforming in an area was improved, and now appeals to me.

Jaraal wrote: »

Did not change my race, but also did not agree with the changes at all. I just retired my guy.

Did you re-roll something else in another class? Or are you on a vacation until some changes are re-visited?

Zathras

Changed my race. A race that was underperforming in an area was improved, and now appeals to me.

Cundu_Ertur wrote: »

Other:

I have 4 Bosmer 50+. 0 points wasted in Hunter's Eye. It is a garbage passive. Bosmer need their stealth back. Other than that (said Mrs. Lincoln) the remaining passives were good.

Argonians ought to have poison resistance in addition to their Disease resistance/effect immunity.

Are you still playing the Bosmer as a race, but without the passive? Or did the changes move you into another class (or build) to get the stealth?

Turelus

Did not change my race. The changes were so minimal to me that there was no need to switch.

Nothing changed for me.

I am not at the level of play where the racial bonuses are going to make a difference.

Bouldercleave

Other (please explain)

Changed my race only because I wanted to change the GENDER of my character. I never chase the meta as it is constantly changing.

grannas211

If you like Breton and Orc you are hooked up.

MooseKnuckles88

I switched from High Elf to Breton not because I wanted to but because the sustain on the High Elf was nearly unplayable after the race change update.

Zathras

Changed my race. A race that was underperforming in an area was improved, and now appeals to me.

Greystag wrote: »

I actually did change my race, but not because of the balance. I just got tired of being an Altmer and wanted to be a Khajiit, so I swapped. I did wait for the balance changes to arrive on the PTS, but that was just in case they made Khajiit super bad at healing, which didn't happen and I heal fine still. I would've changed race anyways, so this is IMO the answer that best fits me.

I am pretty much in the same position, except for me it was Breton. The passive changes made the Khajiit a little more magicka friendly, which gave me the excuse to give them a more serious try.

Urvoth

Did not change my race. I'm loyal to a particular race, and won't change regardless.

I like the extra stam regen on Altmer since it helps when playing with low stam pools. However, I would have liked at least a bit of mag regen still.

milesrodneymcneely2_ESO

Changed my race. A race that was underperforming in an area was improved, and now appeals to me.

I think the racial changes were ABSOLUTELY a step in the right direction. They managed to balance them pretty well, while maintaining a good sense of flavor.

For me, the best part was changing many of the percentages to flat values. I wish they'd do this for other areas of the game.

P.S.: I'd STILL love to see the addition of well-balanced racial ultimates. I think that'd be a fun thing.

Cundu_Ertur

Other (please explain)

Zathras wrote: »

Cundu_Ertur wrote: »

Other:

I have 4 Bosmer 50+. 0 points wasted in Hunter's Eye. It is a garbage passive. Bosmer need their stealth back. Other than that (said Mrs. Lincoln) the remaining passives were good.

Argonians ought to have poison resistance in addition to their Disease resistance/effect immunity.

Are you still playing the Bosmer as a race, but without the passive? Or did the changes move you into another class (or build) to get the stealth?

Still playing Bosmer, despite the changes. I refuse to change to Khajiit to be a thief because I shouldn't have to. I've adjusted my builds, to the worse, to keep some stealth. But I am worse at being a thief now than I was before.

Zathras

Changed my race. A race that was underperforming in an area was improved, and now appeals to me.

MooseKnuckles88 wrote: »

I switched from High Elf to Breton not because I wanted to but because the sustain on the High Elf was nearly unplayable after the race change update.

Urvoth wrote: »

I like the extra stam regen on Altmer since it helps when playing with low stam pools. However, I would have liked at least a bit of mag regen still.

I agree with that. I have a (retired) MagWarden that was an Altmer, that I switched to Breton for the sustain alone.