Lets keep the game with out Addons like MM and ATT from accessing API- got opinins Disregard

BrianLovesLisa · June 2019

Got the Opinions on the matter and Players have made their points thanks all for the replies

Skwor · June 2019

Fine by me. I have wanted that for a while.

jkerlandsenrwb17_ESO · June 2019

Please let me at least keep lazy writ.

Pevey · June 2019

You were the person complaining about pc players trolling on console issues that don’t affect them, right? I personally have not seen that. What I do see is you constantly trolling on a pc issue that has absolutely nothing to do with you.

JamieAubrey · June 2019

Fine by me, I never use them anyway

Borat · June 2019

Why would you want to take the option for people to use the addons they want? if you don't want to use them then don't, but that will be a very bad idea for the PC community.

ValueDrift · June 2019

We could take native voice chat away from consoles, would be fun to see console players do communication the same way PC does it?

anitajoneb17_ESO · June 2019

Wow.
I had heard that PC players and console players do not mix well, but that goes beyond anything I could imagine. The level of salt and envy is close to poisonous.

Pevey · June 2019

Borat wrote: »

Why would you want to take the option for people to use the addons they want? if you don't want to use them then don't, but that will be a very bad idea for the PC community.

Because he is a console player who delusionally believes that the only reason he can’t have an auction house is because ALL of us on PC are against it, and the reason we are against it is because we have these addons.

Ergo, take away our addons, and everyone will magically prefer an auction house.

That is his agenda here. He does not play on PC. The situation does not even affect him.

And he refuses to see that his logic is flawed, that many of the loudest voices against an auction house are console players.

BrianLovesLisa · June 2019

Pevey wrote: »

Borat wrote: »

Why would you want to take the option for people to use the addons they want? if you don't want to use them then don't, but that will be a very bad idea for the PC community.

Because he is a console player who delusionally believes that the only reason he can’t have an auction house is because ALL of us on PC are against it, and the reason we are against it is because we have these addons.

Ergo, take away our addons, and everyone will magically prefer an auction house.

That is his agenda here. He does not play on PC. The situation does not even affect him.

And he refuses to see that his logic is flawed, that many of the loudest voices against an auction house are console players.

Uh where did I say I was a console player XD haven't even played console at all.

Pevey · June 2019

BrianLovesLisa wrote: »

Pevey wrote: »

Borat wrote: »

Why would you want to take the option for people to use the addons they want? if you don't want to use them then don't, but that will be a very bad idea for the PC community.

Because he is a console player who delusionally believes that the only reason he can’t have an auction house is because ALL of us on PC are against it, and the reason we are against it is because we have these addons.

Ergo, take away our addons, and everyone will magically prefer an auction house.

That is his agenda here. He does not play on PC. The situation does not even affect him.

And he refuses to see that his logic is flawed, that many of the loudest voices against an auction house are console players.

Uh where did I say I was a console player XD haven't even played console at all.

Then I apologize. I conflated your posts with those of another poster.

But your agenda is exactly what I described. You think removing these addons will increase support for an auction house.

Argue for an auction house, that is fine. I have agreed with several of your posts in other threads about the issue. But arguing to remove api functionality is not only spiteful, but it also shows faulty logic.

Jaeysa · June 2019

You have not explained why you want this to happen other than 'it might be fun'. How would this positively effect the game?

BrianLovesLisa · June 2019

Pevey wrote: »

BrianLovesLisa wrote: »

Pevey wrote: »

Borat wrote: »

Why would you want to take the option for people to use the addons they want? if you don't want to use them then don't, but that will be a very bad idea for the PC community.

Because he is a console player who delusionally believes that the only reason he can’t have an auction house is because ALL of us on PC are against it, and the reason we are against it is because we have these addons.

Ergo, take away our addons, and everyone will magically prefer an auction house.

That is his agenda here. He does not play on PC. The situation does not even affect him.

And he refuses to see that his logic is flawed, that many of the loudest voices against an auction house are console players.

Uh where did I say I was a console player XD haven't even played console at all.

Then I apologize. I conflated your posts with those of another poster.

But your agenda is exactly what I described. You think removing these addons will increase support for an auction house.

Argue for an auction house, that is fine. I have agreed with several of your posts in other threads about the issue. But arguing to remove api functionality is not only spiteful, but it also shows faulty logic.

Oh I just wanted to see how many people would agree with it be it console or pc. No need to push an agenda when I can push that in the other thread.

BrianLovesLisa · June 2019

Jaeysa wrote: »

You have not explained why you want this to happen other than 'it might be fun'. How would this positively effect the game?

according to other posters it would increase performance by limiting requests from the server

Thrawniel · June 2019

I actually would love to.

Since current trading system stans are so in love with ZoS's 'original idea' of Guild Traders, let them experience it in its true and pure form, just like ZoS intended.

reoskit · June 2019

Thrawniel wrote: »

I actually would love to.

Since current trading system stans are so in love with ZoS's 'original idea' of Guild Traders, let them experience it in its true and pure form, just like ZoS intended.

ZOS intended for us to create addons.

BrianLovesLisa · June 2019

reoskit wrote: »

Thrawniel wrote: »

I actually would love to.

Since current trading system stans are so in love with ZoS's 'original idea' of Guild Traders, let them experience it in its true and pure form, just like ZoS intended.

ZOS intended for us to create addons.

where did they say that?

Skwor · June 2019

BrianLovesLisa wrote: »

reoskit wrote: »

Thrawniel wrote: »

I actually would love to.

Since current trading system stans are so in love with ZoS's 'original idea' of Guild Traders, let them experience it in its true and pure form, just like ZoS intended.

ZOS intended for us to create addons.

where did they say that?

It literally was one of the selling points for this game at release.

reoskit · June 2019

BrianLovesLisa wrote: »

reoskit wrote: »

Thrawniel wrote: »

I actually would love to.

Since current trading system stans are so in love with ZoS's 'original idea' of Guild Traders, let them experience it in its true and pure form, just like ZoS intended.

ZOS intended for us to create addons.

where did they say that?

It was a response to MMORPG's request for comment.

https://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/821/feature/8282/ESOs-Addon-Conundrum.html#post

You'll need to scroll down. The section starts:
We reached out to Zenimax Online Studios for comment on this issue and this is what they had to say:

Edit: full credit to @martinhpb16_ESO for finding and sharing. Thank you.

ManwithBeard9 · June 2019

Pevey wrote: »

You were the person complaining about pc players trolling on console issues that don’t affect them, right? I personally have not seen that. What I do see is you constantly trolling on a pc issue that has absolutely nothing to do with you.

No, this is the person that was so ecstatic and s-posting when the "one" person wasted over 100 million gold using ghost guilds to waste guild trader spots in Rawl a few weeks ago.

BrianLovesLisa · June 2019

ManwithBeard9 wrote: »

Pevey wrote: »

You were the person complaining about pc players trolling on console issues that don’t affect them, right? I personally have not seen that. What I do see is you constantly trolling on a pc issue that has absolutely nothing to do with you.

No, this is the person that was so ecstatic and s-posting when the "one" person wasted over 100 million gold using ghost guilds to waste guild trader spots in Rawl a few weeks ago.

Heh that was very funny, they did it just before Elsweyr, made no inpact and got a ton of people talking about it

BrianLovesLisa · June 2019

reoskit wrote: »

BrianLovesLisa wrote: »

reoskit wrote: »

Thrawniel wrote: »

I actually would love to.

Since current trading system stans are so in love with ZoS's 'original idea' of Guild Traders, let them experience it in its true and pure form, just like ZoS intended.

ZOS intended for us to create addons.

where did they say that?

It was a response to MMORPG's request for comment.

https://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/821/feature/8282/ESOs-Addon-Conundrum.html#post

You'll need to scroll down. The section starts:
We reached out to Zenimax Online Studios for comment on this issue and this is what they had to say:

Thank you very much

Linaleah · June 2019

BrianLovesLisa wrote: »

reoskit wrote: »

Thrawniel wrote: »

I actually would love to.

Since current trading system stans are so in love with ZoS's 'original idea' of Guild Traders, let them experience it in its true and pure form, just like ZoS intended.

ZOS intended for us to create addons.

where did they say that?

god i hope I wont regret replying to you, but i mean.. the fact that official addon forum exists might be a bit of an indication. https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/60819/welcome-to-the-elder-scrolls-online-add-ons-amp-ui-mods-forum

in that same forum they also habitually, IN ADVANCE update addon creators on any changes to api so that they could make updates before the patch is dropped. and before you say anything about that disclaimer about customer service, what it means is that its up to addon creators to provide support, NOT ZoS. but they actively encourage addons by, you know.. creating the dedicated forum, welcoming players and suggest that they also use it to learn about addon creation.

I'm hoping the person who originally posted the quote will provide the source of it. edited - thank you Reo

BrianLovesLisa · June 2019

Linaleah wrote: »

BrianLovesLisa wrote: »

reoskit wrote: »

Thrawniel wrote: »

I actually would love to.

Since current trading system stans are so in love with ZoS's 'original idea' of Guild Traders, let them experience it in its true and pure form, just like ZoS intended.

ZOS intended for us to create addons.

where did they say that?

god i hope I wont regret replying to you, but i mean.. the fact that official addon forum exists might be a bit of an indication. https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/60819/welcome-to-the-elder-scrolls-online-add-ons-amp-ui-mods-forum

in that same forum they also habitually, IN ADVANCE update addon creators on any changes to api so that they could make updates before the patch is dropped. and before you say anything about that disclaimer about customer service, what it means is that its up to addon creators to provide support, NOT ZoS. but they actively encourage addons by, you know.. creating the dedicated forum, welcoming players and suggest that they also use it to learn about addon creation.

I'm hoping the person who originally posted the quote will provide the source of it. edited - thank you Reo

Hmm never noticed the addon forum as I don't scroll down to it, also the question was "where did they say it was intended" but yea I already got my answer thanks for adding an in depth reply though

heaven13 · June 2019

BrianLovesLisa wrote: »

Jaeysa wrote: »

You have not explained why you want this to happen other than 'it might be fun'. How would this positively effect the game?

according to other posters it would increase performance by limiting requests from the server

"According to other posters" isn't a great selling point.

According to other posters...:

...necro is OP and should be nerfed.
...necro is a huge flop and worst class to date.
...crown-to-gold gift exchange is against the TOU.
...and so on and so forth (alliance lock is both best and worst thing ever, nerf sorcs, buff sorcs, fake roles are perfectly acceptable and also rude, and on and on and on).

Just go with "I don't like those add-ons and if people can't use them maybe they'd support a global auction house", rather than frame your position around what some random, baseless statements on the internet suggest.

Nefas · June 2019

Yes let's make those GMs/officers work even harder for absolutely no reason at all to help manage and support their guilds. I don't think people like the OP realizes exactly how much work goes behind the scenes of managing guilds both ingame and outside of it.

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO · June 2019

Lets keep the forums without !@#$% threads.

seratin · June 2019

A global auction house, trading addons, greatly improved loading times between zones; the game really needs to implement one of these options.

xMovingTarget · June 2019

Seriously lol.

ZOS uses an API players can use to write addons. Players write addons. ZOS endorses Addons. Simple as that.
PC has them. had them and will always have them.
If you play on console and you are envious about these addons, dont blame the PC ESO community. Blame Microsoft or Sony. If you had addons over there on your consoles. you would gladly use them too. Because they give us on PC a ton of quality of life the game otherwise misses.
Making up claims such us zos does not intend addons are just speculations and/or blame out of envy.
If you generally dont like addons, thats fine. Dont use them. But ONLY BECAUSE YOU ARE AGAINST it, shouldnt mean nobody should be able to use them.

There is nothing else to say here. Other than "you messed up again ZOS. Re-enable the guild history api please" Thank you.

Kidgangster101 · June 2019

ValueDrift wrote: »

We could take native voice chat away from consoles, would be fun to see console players do communication the same way PC does it?

That's fine voice chat is buggy on the game anyways constantly going down constantly kicking you into the wrong chat at random times lol. We can use discord just like PC we also can have 8 people in a party chat as well 😉

Ardan147 · June 2019

BrianLovesLisa wrote: »

ManwithBeard9 wrote: »

Pevey wrote: »

You were the person complaining about pc players trolling on console issues that don’t affect them, right? I personally have not seen that. What I do see is you constantly trolling on a pc issue that has absolutely nothing to do with you.

No, this is the person that was so ecstatic and s-posting when the "one" person wasted over 100 million gold using ghost guilds to waste guild trader spots in Rawl a few weeks ago.

Heh that was very funny, they did it just before Elsweyr, made no inpact and got a ton of people talking about it

It wasn't at all funny for the guild leaders who had to scramble for a backup plan, which turned out to be waiting up all night for the Elsweyr update to be available so they could be among the first to log in once the servers were back up to secure a spot for their guilds. So all that stupid little farce managed to accomplish was removing five guild traders in a prime location from the game for a week, and denying five smaller guilds that might have been able to hire a trader for that week that opportunity. And I suppose make a few malcontents happy for a bit.