Molten Whip suggestion

robpr

As most of you know, Molten Whip is currently bugged that Seething Fury is not consumed on Whip usage. After yesterday progression raid, I would love for it to stay - my dps skyrocketed to typical melee levels. I am aware that it can be broken in pvp, so here is suggestion: Make the Seething Fury being consumed when player is hit, but not the mobs. Similar to Negate and Telly Strike, this skill would have different effect when hit mobs and players.

MagDK is always shunned by more advanced groups, due to not bringing anything than a shield to the group, other than making tank not being responsible for Engulfing Flames.They can't directly compete with most magicka specs, because of 7 metres range, while dps itself is much lower than stamina specs. Whith Seething Fury not consumed on Whip, magDK can finally take place within melee spots offering better survivability and additional utility of freeing tank from chaining trash.

Some can argue that full stacked whip hits harder than bow proc while being easier to maintain so it shouldn't give so much damage. I agree to some degree, but also point some significal differences:
-Bow proc can be shot from any distance. Whip still have 7 metres.
-Bow can be held to some degree (when boss is moving), Whip empower last 5 seconds, unless spamming FoO or Engulfing, wasting magicka, if you cant use chain at the moment.
-Bow now heals, Whip is not. Embers do, but you have to cast it 2 times if you want it faster again wasting magicka.
-DK sustain is worse than NB's
-Sorc pets exist

Please consider this change. I don't want character that I put so much time and love into to be useless again.

Vildebill

I really get where you're coming from, I myself main MagDK and think that how the buff works now is way better than it did first two weeks, except that the damage is too high. What was supposed to be a buff for MagDK became something strange and quirky, with chains as spammable, and spamming noxious on StamDK.

juhislihis19

Fix an Ardent Flame passive so that slotting Ardent Flame abilities would benefit the class somehow, preferrably stamDK (because Molten has no other use for sDK than the Seething Fury).

Sanguinor2

Will likely not get done but would be cool to take my magdk into a Trial again without gimping my Group.
Also the fully stacked Whip will only hit harder than bow if the dk has more offensive stats than the nightblade.

Insco851

Sanguinor2 wrote: »

Will likely not get done but would be cool to take my magdk into a Trial again without gimping my Group.
Also the fully stacked Whip will only hit harder than bow if the dk has more offensive stats than the nightblade.

Easier to sustain and get higher Spell damage on magdk than mnb. Threw on BTB+Alfiq and was hitting 10k whips. And I was over sustaining.

And it takes less than half the time to full stack and you can preemptive stack out of combat....

Sanguinor2

Insco851 wrote: »

Easier to sustain and get higher Spell damage on magdk than mnb. Threw on BTB+Alfiq and was hitting 10k whips. And I was over sustaining.

And it takes less than half the time to full stack and you can preemptive stack out of combat....

Your Point? This doesnt Change that with equal stats the bow hits harder. Both are strong and Im not gonna get into the debate of which is stronger, both are good.
This thread is also Talking About the PvE molten and in PvE both dk and nb will have very similar stats (nightblade has more mag and crit and crit Damage).

Neloth

Sure thing, if they give my spectral bow the same treatment - let me fire 5 arrows after I proc it. So I can be like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4C4yoMPp0o

Insco851

Sanguinor2 wrote: »

Insco851 wrote: »

Easier to sustain and get higher Spell damage on magdk than mnb. Threw on BTB+Alfiq and was hitting 10k whips. And I was over sustaining.

And it takes less than half the time to full stack and you can preemptive stack out of combat....

Your Point? This doesnt Change that with equal stats the bow hits harder. Both are strong and Im not gonna get into the debate of which is stronger, both are good.
This thread is also Talking About the PvE molten and in PvE both dk and nb will have very similar stats (nightblade has more mag and crit and crit Damage).

More of adding to what you were saying. While the bow can hit harder- you can probably get 2 full stacked whips in the time frame of a single bow proc that isn’t cheesed. (Pvp wise)

And all things pve are still relevant to pvp comments and vice versa. And considering pvp- you can’t expect this bug to become the norm.

Molten whip is strong af rn. Bout time DK had some burst ability.

TrinityBreaker

Neloth wrote: »

Sure thing, if they give my spectral bow the same treatment - let me fire 5 arrows after I proc it. So I can be like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4C4yoMPp0o

That guy is an amazing shot. 10/10
0/10 for NB shooting all dem OP spec bows that I'm going to reflect with an snb ult and then fozzile so they cant block or dodge.