Mages's Guild - Inner Light

Vaerth

Hello Everyone,

Been about 4 to 5 months since I played. Came back over the week playing here and there a little. I was curious if Inner Light still has the cool white / ghostly aura on the Hands / forearms? Is it still a toggle as well? Most calculators and articles I see are outdated now.

mague

Vaerth wrote: »

Hello Everyone,

Been about 4 to 5 months since I played. Came back over the week playing here and there a little. I was curious if Inner Light still has the cool white / ghostly aura on the Hands / forearms? Is it still a toggle as well? Most calculators and articles I see are outdated now.

UESP is up to date
https://esoitem.uesp.net/viewSkills.php

I think they didnt change anything on Inner Light.

Vaerth

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

What is stopping you from just looking in game the effects of the skill?

Being stuck at work. Do I need to have a reason explained to ask a question on the forums? Why are you on here right now yourself if we are gonna ask

Might have been easier and less rude to just answer my question, then ask yours after?

Simply put, day dreaming about a build I might like while at work had me thinking Inner Light toggle had a Ghostly look to it. Would fair cool with a Necromancer, Magicka based only of course.

Vaerth

mague wrote: »

Vaerth wrote: »

Hello Everyone,

Been about 4 to 5 months since I played. Came back over the week playing here and there a little. I was curious if Inner Light still has the cool white / ghostly aura on the Hands / forearms? Is it still a toggle as well? Most calculators and articles I see are outdated now.

UESP is up to date
https://esoitem.uesp.net/viewSkills.php

I think they didnt change anything on Inner Light.

Thank you kindly for the help, I appreciate it greatly

Arciris

I am sorry to disappoint you but Inner Light is no longer a good looking skill. In fact, it's ugly AF.

When you activate it, a giant red eye, looking like a 90's game's eye, appears on top of your character's head.
This was made to give "conterplay to the (lousy) counter" -very tiny radius - to one of the, if not the most OP mechanic in the game - Invisbility.

The Divines forbid NB gankers to gap close by mistake someone who has a counter to cloak active.

I liked Inner Light old animations a lot too.

edit: typos

Luthid

Unfortunately Inner Light was changed and doesn’t give the visual aura when slotted. I still miss that affect

Benzux

Inner Light hasn't been a toggle for ages. I want to say that it was Summerset (don't quote me on that, can't remember for sure) that changed all toggle abilities (Magelight, Bound Armour, etc.) so they are no longer a toggle, and instead grant the bonuses passively when slotted (such as the max resource increase with Bound Armour), with activating them giving something extra, such as the Magelight stealth detection. Visually the ability is still the same when you activate it, with the only difference being the red eye symbol above you, though the visual effect (blue glow) only stays on you for the duration of the ability.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Vaerth wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

What is stopping you from just looking in game the effects of the skill?

Being stuck at work. Do I need to have a reason explained to ask a question on the forums? Why are you on here right now yourself if we are gonna ask

Might have been easier and less rude to just answer my question, then ask yours after?

Simply put, day dreaming about a build I might like while at work had me thinking Inner Light toggle had a Ghostly look to it. Would fair cool with a Necromancer, Magicka based only of course.

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Secondly, forum users are not here to answer your questions. Especially one as simple as yours. Every mag toon ought to have the skill unlocked and on at least their bar in pve. That 7% percent magic is too much to give up. And if your toons don't have the skill, you are doing something wrong.

I guess I "must be doing something wrong", then, since I only use Inner Light on a couple of my Magicka characters.
It is a good skill, but not all builds have the bar space for it, or it feels redundant when you get Magicka bonuses/Major Prophecy from other sources, such as Northern Storm (8% Magicka) and Blue Lotus on a Warden. Might just be me, but the wording makes that feel like you're being more "aggressive" with that statement than it actually is. But, what do I know about your thought process.

Vaerth

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Vaerth wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

What is stopping you from just looking in game the effects of the skill?

Being stuck at work. Do I need to have a reason explained to ask a question on the forums? Why are you on here right now yourself if we are gonna ask

Might have been easier and less rude to just answer my question, then ask yours after?

Simply put, day dreaming about a build I might like while at work had me thinking Inner Light toggle had a Ghostly look to it. Would fair cool with a Necromancer, Magicka based only of course.

Well first off, it makes you look defensive when you say people are being rude. It would have been much better for your face to have just stopped after "at work".

Secondly, forum users are not here to answer your questions. Especially one as simple as yours. Every mag toon ought to have the skill unlocked and on at least their bar in pve. That 7% percent magic is too much to give up. And if your toons don't have the skill, you are doing something wrong.

Forum users are here to do what they please, myself included. Some already have kindly answered the question. Just because you deem it not worth answering does not mean others are rude like yourself. Why even come here and waste your time? You lurk the threads looking to talk down to people? Trolling is a life style for some, I know, but you REALLY just needed to be like that? Bad morning? Not getting laid? What is it that drives people like you to just be an *** rather than move on to the next thread? Are you normally ugly to people or is it just something you do when your hidden behind a screen?

Vaerth

Arciris wrote: »

I am sorry to disappoint you but Inner Light is no longer a good looking skill. In fact, it's ugly AF.

When you activate it, a giant red eye, looking like a 90's game's eye, appears on top of your character's head.
This was made to give "conterplay to the (lousy) counter" -very tiny radius - to one of the, if not the most OP mechanic in the game - Invisbility.

The Divines forbid NB gankers to gap close by mistake someone who has a counter to cloak active.

I liked Inner Light old animations a lot too.

edit: typos

Awww no! That is a bummer! I expected some changes of course. Thank you very much for letting me know! My Necro with Inner Light for the look and Soul Assault might need some adjustments now lol.

Neoauspex

It doesn't actually work to reveal stealthed enemies anymore either

Vaerth

Benzux wrote: »

Inner Light hasn't been a toggle for ages. I want to say that it was Summerset (don't quote me on that, can't remember for sure) that changed all toggle abilities (Magelight, Bound Armour, etc.) so they are no longer a toggle, and instead grant the bonuses passively when slotted (such as the max resource increase with Bound Armour), with activating them giving something extra, such as the Magelight stealth detection. Visually the ability is still the same when you activate it, with the only difference being the red eye symbol above you, though the visual effect (blue glow) only stays on you for the duration of the ability.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Vaerth wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

What is stopping you from just looking in game the effects of the skill?

Being stuck at work. Do I need to have a reason explained to ask a question on the forums? Why are you on here right now yourself if we are gonna ask

Might have been easier and less rude to just answer my question, then ask yours after?

Simply put, day dreaming about a build I might like while at work had me thinking Inner Light toggle had a Ghostly look to it. Would fair cool with a Necromancer, Magicka based only of course.

-

Secondly, forum users are not here to answer your questions. Especially one as simple as yours. Every mag toon ought to have the skill unlocked and on at least their bar in pve. That 7% percent magic is too much to give up. And if your toons don't have the skill, you are doing something wrong.

I guess I "must be doing something wrong", then, since I only use Inner Light on a couple of my Magicka characters.
It is a good skill, but not all builds have the bar space for it, or it feels redundant when you get Magicka bonuses/Major Prophecy from other sources, such as Northern Storm (8% Magicka) and Blue Lotus on a Warden. Might just be me, but the wording makes that feel like you're being more "aggressive" with that statement than it actually is. But, what do I know about your thought process.

Thank you for taking the time to give me those wonderful details! Very helpful and I really do appreciate your time and help! Thank you very much!

Vaerth

Luthid wrote: »

Unfortunately Inner Light was changed and doesn’t give the visual aura when slotted. I still miss that affect

That is such a bummer, it would have paired for a cool look on a Necro build!

Sarjako

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Vaerth wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

What is stopping you from just looking in game the effects of the skill?

Being stuck at work. Do I need to have a reason explained to ask a question on the forums? Why are you on here right now yourself if we are gonna ask

Might have been easier and less rude to just answer my question, then ask yours after?

Simply put, day dreaming about a build I might like while at work had me thinking Inner Light toggle had a Ghostly look to it. Would fair cool with a Necromancer, Magicka based only of course.

Well first off, it makes you look defensive when you say people are being rude. It would have been much better for your face to have just stopped after "at work".

Secondly, forum users are not here to answer your questions. Especially one as simple as yours. Every mag toon ought to have the skill unlocked and on at least their bar in pve. That 7% percent magic is too much to give up. And if your toons don't have the skill, you are doing something wrong.

Disagree. You might not be here to answer questions but obviously there's helpful people here and we're glad to help fellow players.

ryzen_gamer_gal

I can think of things i would rather use than mage light. It only works on the bar it's on and there are armor passives that can give you major prophecy or nearly as much as major prophecy and thy remain active in spite of bar switching. And as has been noted, other abilities that can be slotted that might make more sense, like 10% regen of magicka, stamina, and health if you are a templar - but also the others mentioned above.

If you like it, great, if you don't great.

Welcome back. I hope the thread has been useful to you in spite of its shortcomings.

DR4GONFL1

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Vaerth wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

What is stopping you from just looking in game the effects of the skill?

Being stuck at work. Do I need to have a reason explained to ask a question on the forums? Why are you on here right now yourself if we are gonna ask

Might have been easier and less rude to just answer my question, then ask yours after?

Simply put, day dreaming about a build I might like while at work had me thinking Inner Light toggle had a Ghostly look to it. Would fair cool with a Necromancer, Magicka based only of course.

Well first off, it makes you look defensive when you say people are being rude. It would have been much better for your face to have just stopped after "at work".

Secondly, forum users are not here to answer your questions. Especially one as simple as yours. Every mag toon ought to have the skill unlocked and on at least their bar in pve. That 7% percent magic is too much to give up. And if your toons don't have the skill, you are doing something wrong.

So this was your first instinct as how to best reply to his question... Incredible! Maybe try and be less helpful maybe, I don't know.

OrphanHelgen

Vaerth wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

What is stopping you from just looking in game the effects of the skill?

Being stuck at work. Do I need to have a reason explained to ask a question on the forums? Why are you on here right now yourself if we are gonna ask

Might have been easier and less rude to just answer my question, then ask yours after?

Simply put, day dreaming about a build I might like while at work had me thinking Inner Light toggle had a Ghostly look to it. Would fair cool with a Necromancer, Magicka based only of course.

He wasn't rude at all what are you talking about XD. I was curious myself why you asked that question if you came back to the game. And honestly, the answer was that you have nothing better to do at work than theorycraft roleplay builds while wasting other peoples times watching animations for you because you don't have the patient to wait a few hours until you come home. Now you understand the different about being rude and just have a question. I was rude af have a nice day.

Ender1310

It doesn't. It's not a toggle anymore. It really doesn't do much of anything except for passives or stealth detection in pvp. So to sum it all up it just sits on your bar provides passives and doesn't add anything visually as you will prob's never actually press it.
So it's visuals are negligent and whatever they are only lasts a couple of seconds anyways. Hope this helps and sorry to bust your inner light cherry and so forth.

Ender1310

DR4GONFL1 wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Vaerth wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

What is stopping you from just looking in game the effects of the skill?

Being stuck at work. Do I need to have a reason explained to ask a question on the forums? Why are you on here right now yourself if we are gonna ask

Might have been easier and less rude to just answer my question, then ask yours after?

Simply put, day dreaming about a build I might like while at work had me thinking Inner Light toggle had a Ghostly look to it. Would fair cool with a Necromancer, Magicka based only of course.

Well first off, it makes you look defensive when you say people are being rude. It would have been much better for your face to have just stopped after "at work".

Secondly, forum users are not here to answer your questions. Especially one as simple as yours. Every mag toon ought to have the skill unlocked and on at least their bar in pve. That 7% percent magic is too much to give up. And if your toons don't have the skill, you are doing something wrong.

He is correct about it being needed on every build out there. Don't know why he/she is so snippy however.

ryzen_gamer_gal

It's value as a tool is off topic. The op didnt as about it's value as a tool.

DR4GONFL1

Ender1310 wrote: »

DR4GONFL1 wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Vaerth wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

What is stopping you from just looking in game the effects of the skill?

Being stuck at work. Do I need to have a reason explained to ask a question on the forums? Why are you on here right now yourself if we are gonna ask

Might have been easier and less rude to just answer my question, then ask yours after?

Simply put, day dreaming about a build I might like while at work had me thinking Inner Light toggle had a Ghostly look to it. Would fair cool with a Necromancer, Magicka based only of course.

Well first off, it makes you look defensive when you say people are being rude. It would have been much better for your face to have just stopped after "at work".

Secondly, forum users are not here to answer your questions. Especially one as simple as yours. Every mag toon ought to have the skill unlocked and on at least their bar in pve. That 7% percent magic is too much to give up. And if your toons don't have the skill, you are doing something wrong.

He is correct about it being needed on every build out there. Don't know why he/she is so snippy however.

I totally agree with that even I have it slotted and that would of been a great way to respond but the,

" What is stopping you from just looking in game the effects of the skill?"

Just don't reply let someone else who will actually be helpful answer... And how is he wasting people's time by asking a question that you don't have answer? Your wasting your own time so now that we have that clear you can stop posting useless replies. Have a nice day and all.

Suddwrath

Unfortunately, most toggle skills which had a visible effect have been changed so that they are no longer toggle-able.

ZOS_RogerJ

Greetings! Please remember to keep the thread on-topic, constructive and civil. While we completely understand everyone has their own opinions, thoughts, feelings and even frustrations, we want the forums to be a civil and constructive platform for the game and it's community as a whole.

Delsanab14_ESO

They always remove the good stuff.

THEDKEXPERIENCE

lol ... you don’t need inner light. It certainly helps, but you can achieve 50k magic on many builds without slotting an otherwise meh skill.

My newly leveled sorc is at 51k based mostly on gear like crafty aflik and grace of the Ancients.

Vaerth

THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »

lol ... you don’t need inner light. It certainly helps, but you can achieve 50k magic on many builds without slotting an otherwise meh skill.

My newly leveled sorc is at 51k based mostly on gear like crafty aflik and grace of the Ancients.

I wanted it for the cosmetics lol I am not a min max kind of player, just a casual enjoy the games environment RP style.

Vaerth

Ender1310 wrote: »

It doesn't. It's not a toggle anymore. It really doesn't do much of anything except for passives or stealth detection in pvp. So to sum it all up it just sits on your bar provides passives and doesn't add anything visually as you will prob's never actually press it.
So it's visuals are negligent and whatever they are only lasts a couple of seconds anyways. Hope this helps and sorry to bust your inner light cherry and so forth.

Lol, thanks for the giggle!

No worries, it wont work for my idea without being a toggle. Same as the Bound Armor now for Sorc either. Really kinda sucks, seems like since I came back more stuff was gutted, not added.

Vaerth

DR4GONFL1 wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Vaerth wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

What is stopping you from just looking in game the effects of the skill?

Being stuck at work. Do I need to have a reason explained to ask a question on the forums? Why are you on here right now yourself if we are gonna ask

Might have been easier and less rude to just answer my question, then ask yours after?

Simply put, day dreaming about a build I might like while at work had me thinking Inner Light toggle had a Ghostly look to it. Would fair cool with a Necromancer, Magicka based only of course.

Well first off, it makes you look defensive when you say people are being rude. It would have been much better for your face to have just stopped after "at work".

Secondly, forum users are not here to answer your questions. Especially one as simple as yours. Every mag toon ought to have the skill unlocked and on at least their bar in pve. That 7% percent magic is too much to give up. And if your toons don't have the skill, you are doing something wrong.

So this was your first instinct as how to best reply to his question... Incredible! Maybe try and be less helpful maybe, I don't know.

Thank you, I appreciate the kindness. Some people tend to be looking to make others feel bad, or just like to be rude lol.

He / She also could just have been having a bad day. It happens. I personally dont like to make people feel bad, but we all handle issues in our own ways I guess lol.

Vaerth

ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »

I can think of things i would rather use than mage light. It only works on the bar it's on and there are armor passives that can give you major prophecy or nearly as much as major prophecy and thy remain active in spite of bar switching. And as has been noted, other abilities that can be slotted that might make more sense, like 10% regen of magicka, stamina, and health if you are a templar - but also the others mentioned above.

If you like it, great, if you don't great.

Welcome back. I hope the thread has been useful to you in spite of its shortcomings.

Ohhh, can you please let me know which skills provide passives even when the bar is not activated? I like that!

Vaerth

Sarjako wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Vaerth wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

What is stopping you from just looking in game the effects of the skill?

Being stuck at work. Do I need to have a reason explained to ask a question on the forums? Why are you on here right now yourself if we are gonna ask

Might have been easier and less rude to just answer my question, then ask yours after?

Simply put, day dreaming about a build I might like while at work had me thinking Inner Light toggle had a Ghostly look to it. Would fair cool with a Necromancer, Magicka based only of course.

Well first off, it makes you look defensive when you say people are being rude. It would have been much better for your face to have just stopped after "at work".

Secondly, forum users are not here to answer your questions. Especially one as simple as yours. Every mag toon ought to have the skill unlocked and on at least their bar in pve. That 7% percent magic is too much to give up. And if your toons don't have the skill, you are doing something wrong.

Disagree. You might not be here to answer questions but obviously there's helpful people here and we're glad to help fellow players.

People like you who show nothign but kindness is why I play ESO. Mature and respectful people, always kind and helpful with only a few that tend to seem toxic lol. But not many at all. I was so happy with how kind you guys were on the forums, that I paid it back to a new player with the only gold I had left on a toon I was deleting, hooked up a new player with 9,000 gold last night when he asked how to get gold to upgrade his mount at the stables.

He could have Googled it, but he did not. He asked in Zone chat, I was happy to help. It is a good feeling to help someone out, the appreciation they express makes ones heart feel happy Life is to short to be ugly to one another. Thank you for showing me that there are more good people than there are mean people

Osteos

I understand the OP. I had a whole outfit themed around the effect from Bound Armor. Loved that purple.

blnchk

Why did they remove toggles?