Strongest Build in the History of ESO

Wildberryjack

PeterUnlustig wrote: »

Elsweyr has brought us a alot of buggy skills, but one of them is so broken strong that its hard to believe zenimax consideres it balanced. Here is an in depth showcase of the strongest build that ever roamed non-CP/CP.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5ckU1MtZ-4

Recommendations based on max values:
- the max hit on people is 18-20k depending on crit resist without cp
- bash ult gets buffed 100% by snb bash passive, this needs to be fixed
- bash ult gets buffed by bash glyph (which to be honest isnt actually that much more then weapon dmg glyph)
- > fix bash multplicators and reduce pummeling dmg by 50% in addition

even after the adjustments you can still hit 5k bashes every 0,5 secs which is still 10k aoe dps and decently strong.

build used in the video https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=138177

TY for the build info. I'll trot off and see about making one now.

Waffennacht

Btw no gap closer works that well on console

Jaraal

Waffennacht wrote: »

Jaraal wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

Well real quick - about everyone is ranged in BGs today

Everyone is running speed, and snare immunity

Everyone also has snares

The best time to Goliath is when everyone is on you, but after a few die the rest peace; meaning getting a ton out of in BGs is hard

Necro can also cast Beckoning Armor, which chains ranged attackers to them every 3 seconds, so he/she doesn't have to chase after them. Chain, bash, get blown up by exploding players: game over.

It doesn't really proc reliably against bow fyi, and second I really hope that only works against a player once at most

There's no range listed on Beckoning Armor, so I'm not sure if it's affected by the Range passive or not. If it is indeed a case on the Necro not having Range but the archer does, that would make sense. So many buggy things about the new class, it may take a while for definitive clarity.

Waffennacht

Jaraal wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

Jaraal wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

Well real quick - about everyone is ranged in BGs today

Everyone is running speed, and snare immunity

Everyone also has snares

The best time to Goliath is when everyone is on you, but after a few die the rest peace; meaning getting a ton out of in BGs is hard

Necro can also cast Beckoning Armor, which chains ranged attackers to them every 3 seconds, so he/she doesn't have to chase after them. Chain, bash, get blown up by exploding players: game over.

It doesn't really proc reliably against bow fyi, and second I really hope that only works against a player once at most

There's no range listed on Beckoning Armor, so I'm not sure if it's affected by the Range passive or not. If it is indeed a case on the Necro not having Range but the archer does, that would make sense. So many buggy things about the new class, it may take a while for definitive clarity.

I know there isn't a listed range but I've had players shoot arrows (snipe, injection, LA, and spray) from a ledge and it never pulled him.

There's definitely limitations to the skill, a lot, could be on purpose or bugs, but I dunno

Jaraal

PeterUnlustig wrote: »

Elsweyr has brought us a alot of buggy skills, but one of them is so broken strong that its hard to believe zenimax consideres it balanced.

You assume that they think it's balanced, yet they are well known for releasing overpowered stuff with new Chapters/DLCs.


Every post like this pushes people on the fence a little bit closer to buying Elsweyr to try out the "new meta". They may have issues with their coding department, but you can bet the marketing department doesn't miss a beat.

DarkerDreams

All the learn to play comments are amusing. "learn to play", "Just run away", "Don't stand in stupid", ect,, ect... . Ok yeah, the same thing could be said for all the other things that got nerfed. Sorc shields, dk wings, everything NB had, and the rest of the list.

The ability is definitely over tuned , the people denying it just don't want their favorite new toy nerfed.

I'm positive ZOS knows it's over performing, they knew before it was released, but I doubt anything will be done at least until the next DLC comes out cause if they nerf necro right after it released, sales will surely take a hit. All those videos of people abusing it are great for marketing.

Chrysa1is

I want whatever set the guards wear that makes them unkillable.

ZonasArch

DarkerDreams wrote: »

All the learn to play comments are amusing. "learn to play", "Just run away", "Don't stand in stupid", ect,, ect... . Ok yeah, the same thing could be said for all the other things that got nerfed. Sorc shields, dk wings, everything NB had, and the rest of the list.

The ability is definitely over tuned , the people denying it just don't want their favorite new toy nerfed.

I'm positive ZOS knows it's over performing, they knew before it was released, but I doubt anything will be done at least until the next DLC comes out cause if they nerf necro right after it released, sales will surely take a hit. All those videos of people abusing it are great for marketing.

My favorite new toy? I don't even have Elsweyr... Shameful, really. And this case is the same as the bombblades... And they are there... And there are videos. And what? They are just as deadly today as always, and that's fine. After the novelty factor goes away, it'll be back to normal... You'll see a few of these here and there but that's it, because the whole vuild needs to work for that one moment, and waiting for that is boring... Most people like more action, and less waiting.

I'm not worried.

And I agree it'll be nerfed, but it isn't needed as much as people are crying about. You can, indeed, just avoid it.l, if you're in a group, just unstack from the zerg. Don't be afraid to lose your Zerg protection for a few seconds. Easy. L2p.

[Edit to remove bait]

ZonasArch

Chrysa1is wrote: »

I want whatever set the guards wear that makes them unkillable.

Weeeell... You can kinda use Phoenix for a somewhat similar effect.

Mr_Walker

DarkerDreams wrote: »

All the learn to play comments are amusing. "learn to play", "Just run away", "Don't stand in stupid", ect,, ect... . Ok yeah, the same thing could be said for all the other things that got nerfed. Sorc shields, dk wings, everything NB had, and the rest of the list.

Yes, they could, but instead of learning and using different tactics against different classes/skills, people whinged and cried when they got killed by anything, and now we have a bunch of lack-luster "skills" and "ultimates" that are... mediocres.

OlumoGarbag

ZonasArch wrote: »

Chrysa1is wrote: »

I want whatever set the guards wear that makes them unkillable.

Weeeell... You can kinda use Phoenix for a somewhat similar effect.

suuuure lets all run impreg,phoenix,pirate skelli and have a guard tank and pocket healer at all time.

The problem with this skill is not the few players that are solo bombing zergs or raid guilds.
Its that everyone without any skill can zerg down any number of players with that.

chetter_hummin

Mr_Walker wrote: »

As a regular PvPer, I am incredibly sick of the whinging. Last year the great Sloads blubfest, now this. L2P.

regular zergling maybe. I guess everytime some1 complains with or without arguments u just pop the miraculous L2P without any arguments. Pure trolling it seems.

That ulti needs a fix. I agree with OP.

ZonasArch

OlumoGarbag wrote: »

ZonasArch wrote: »

Chrysa1is wrote: »

I want whatever set the guards wear that makes them unkillable.

Weeeell... You can kinda use Phoenix for a somewhat similar effect.

suuuure lets all run impreg,phoenix,pirate skelli and have a guard tank and pocket healer at all time.

The problem with this skill is not the few players that are solo bombing zergs or raid guilds.
Its that everyone without any skill can zerg down any number of players with that.

Omfg... Did you read to what I was replying?!?!