VinayExile wrote: »VinayExile wrote: »
Yeah there was. If a character was in a certain alliance and entered a campaign, no characters on the opposing factions could enter that campaign
Yes, and it was removed for a reason!
And they also had 3 campaigns back then for cp, not just 1.
They still have 3 Cp campaigns, you know?
That post is not going to end well for your argument. Just saying.
What argument? I was pointing out a fact, and there is no arguing a fact... 30days cp, 7days cp, and IC cp. 3 Cp campaigns. Fact.
bulbousb16_ESO wrote: »Faction lock is here to stay, and let's hope it gets spread to the remaining campaigns. Those that don't like it, don't understand the concept of the game.
AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »VinayExile wrote: »TequilaFire wrote: »VinayExile wrote: »TequilaFire wrote: »That is the problem you should care about campaign scores.
That is what AvAvA is all about. There is also plenty of play for small scale, i.e. BGs and unlocked campaigns.
No there is not, bg and unlocked campaigns are dead after 10pm. The only campaign there is action on is the 30 day cp campaign.
And were not role players fighting for the queen or whatever, and campaign scores are nonsense because the rewards are ***.
So why would anyone care about camp scoring.
Well bud I do along with a PvP guild of 400 others.
We don't like Cyro being turned in to a farming simulator.
I dont care what you want, for all I care you can keep zerging keeps with 400 people, we just want to pvp with a group if 5-10 ppl max.
Not for farming not for the campaign just for open world pvp.
So you play in a 5-10 man group, do you know any other groups of that size you could coordinate with to get some XvX going on the 7 day? If you made friends with some other guilds it sounds like the 7 day could be pretty hopping, and the fights would be a lot better than blob bombing pugzergs.
Faction lock is probs here to stay, you should coordinate with other highly skilled small man groups and turn the 7 day in to a real champion level battle ground where only the best dare enter. To me this seems like a great opportunity for a PVP renaissance.
VinayExile wrote: »VinayExile wrote: »VinayExile wrote: »
Yeah there was. If a character was in a certain alliance and entered a campaign, no characters on the opposing factions could enter that campaign
Yes, and it was removed for a reason!
And they also had 3 campaigns back then for cp, not just 1.
They still have 3 Cp campaigns, you know?
That post is not going to end well for your argument. Just saying.
What argument? I was pointing out a fact, and there is no arguing a fact... 30days cp, 7days cp, and IC cp. 3 Cp campaigns. Fact.
IC isnt a campaign since you cannot be emperor and cannot be in a ranking.
So yes hes right.
VinayExile wrote: »VinayExile wrote: »VinayExile wrote: »
Yeah there was. If a character was in a certain alliance and entered a campaign, no characters on the opposing factions could enter that campaign
Yes, and it was removed for a reason!
And they also had 3 campaigns back then for cp, not just 1.
They still have 3 Cp campaigns, you know?
That post is not going to end well for your argument. Just saying.
What argument? I was pointing out a fact, and there is no arguing a fact... 30days cp, 7days cp, and IC cp. 3 Cp campaigns. Fact.
IC isnt a campaign since you cannot be emperor and cannot be in a ranking.
So yes hes right.
If you wanna be this technical, then I'll concede, I'm wrong, and so is he. 2 isn't 1 either. Hehe
But I see your point.
TequilaFire wrote: »Put your actions where your mouth is and turn Shor into a busy campaign like Vivec if there are so many that feel like you do.
We could use less lag on Vivec, so spread out.
TequilaFire wrote: »Put your actions where your mouth is and turn Shor into a busy campaign like Vivec if there are so many that feel like you do.
We could use less lag on Vivec, so spread out.
Try again. Not enough population between all servers to support more than one on XNA during off peak. It's not rare that 30cp will hit zero pop bars on one or two factions.
TequilaFire wrote: »TequilaFire wrote: »Put your actions where your mouth is and turn Shor into a busy campaign like Vivec if there are so many that feel like you do.
We could use less lag on Vivec, so spread out.
Try again. Not enough population between all servers to support more than one on XNA during off peak. It's not rare that 30cp will hit zero pop bars on one or two factions.
How do you figure?
If people don't play alliance locked campaign and go to an unlocked one there will be enough players.
Or are you saying that the ones crying about the locks are actually a small group?
Is everybody so stubborn they have to faction stack on one campaign?
I thought snall scalers wanted smaller fights.
Or is it they want to make YouTube videos farming noobs?
TequilaFire wrote: »TequilaFire wrote: »Put your actions where your mouth is and turn Shor into a busy campaign like Vivec if there are so many that feel like you do.
We could use less lag on Vivec, so spread out.
Try again. Not enough population between all servers to support more than one on XNA during off peak. It's not rare that 30cp will hit zero pop bars on one or two factions.
How do you figure?
If people don't play alliance locked campaign and go to an unlocked one there will be enough players.
Or are you saying that the ones crying about the locks are actually a small group?
Is everybody so stubborn they have to faction stack on one campaign?
I thought snall scalers wanted smaller fights.
Or is it they want to make YouTube videos farming noobs?
We don’t want smaller fights, we want larger outnumbered fights. We enjoy the challenge, even if we get zerged down. That’s the rush, the fun, trying to pull off the unthinkable.
You simply cannot do that if your faction is zerging everyone else into the floor, there are physically no fights to be had.
Don’t get me wrong, I’ll have no qualms with factions locks as long as my main faction with my main is the one with the least population. But I simply cannot enjoy this game if I go into the only populated campaign only to find EP is zerging everything down effectively killing off all the fights. And I know this will happen at some point or another, so that’s why I and several others are so vocal against faction locks.
BGs is not a viable alternative as I have to sit in 30 minute queues on my main to find a match that just isn’t fun. Add competitive arenas to the game and you can faction lock every campaign for all I care, then the good PvPers would have something meaningful occupying majority of our time.
AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »TequilaFire wrote: »TequilaFire wrote: »Put your actions where your mouth is and turn Shor into a busy campaign like Vivec if there are so many that feel like you do.
We could use less lag on Vivec, so spread out.
Try again. Not enough population between all servers to support more than one on XNA during off peak. It's not rare that 30cp will hit zero pop bars on one or two factions.
How do you figure?
If people don't play alliance locked campaign and go to an unlocked one there will be enough players.
Or are you saying that the ones crying about the locks are actually a small group?
Is everybody so stubborn they have to faction stack on one campaign?
I thought snall scalers wanted smaller fights.
Or is it they want to make YouTube videos farming noobs?
We don’t want smaller fights, we want larger outnumbered fights. We enjoy the challenge, even if we get zerged down. That’s the rush, the fun, trying to pull off the unthinkable.
You simply cannot do that if your faction is zerging everyone else into the floor, there are physically no fights to be had.
Don’t get me wrong, I’ll have no qualms with factions locks as long as my main faction with my main is the one with the least population. But I simply cannot enjoy this game if I go into the only populated campaign only to find EP is zerging everything down effectively killing off all the fights. And I know this will happen at some point or another, so that’s why I and several others are so vocal against faction locks.
BGs is not a viable alternative as I have to sit in 30 minute queues on my main to find a match that just isn’t fun. Add competitive arenas to the game and you can faction lock every campaign for all I care, then the good PvPers would have something meaningful occupying majority of our time.
That should be possible though, if say you had 30 friends in your guild you could have 25 of them log on to AD alts on the non-faction locked campaign and 5 on EP alts and you could take down that 25 man group in some tough fought, near impossible fights. That's what GG is about, that kind of nail biting win. And since you see everywhere that faction hoppers are the majority in PVP you don't need zergblob0skillz to feed your need for carnage, you got what you need already for the really good fights, you just have to get organized.
This has all happened before, people step up and create the content, and they make good, balanced fights. If you are being sincere and good fights are what you want, rally your best and take your game up a notch!
TequilaFire wrote: »Put your actions where your mouth is and turn Shor into a busy campaign like Vivec if there are so many that feel like you do.
We could use less lag on Vivec, so spread out.
TriangularChicken wrote: »vinay you waste your time on the forums..these guys here clearly do nothing else but zerg surf all day long..they don't understand how it is to play in a small group and not finding fights or switching to fight for the underdog. it's a shame that zos listens to faction roleplayers..
SidraWillowsky wrote: »TriangularChicken wrote: »vinay you waste your time on the forums..these guys here clearly do nothing else but zerg surf all day long..they don't understand how it is to play in a small group and not finding fights or switching to fight for the underdog. it's a shame that zos listens to faction roleplayers..
PvPers justifying killing questers and camping quest buildings a few weeks ago during the Jubilee event: "THIS IS WAR, THE ENEMY MUST DIE"
PvPers decrying faction lock "SWAP TO FIGHT FOR THE UNDERDOGS"
lolok.
FYI I also dabble in PvP but some of you are a special breed of whiny.
SidraWillowsky wrote: »TriangularChicken wrote: »vinay you waste your time on the forums..these guys here clearly do nothing else but zerg surf all day long..they don't understand how it is to play in a small group and not finding fights or switching to fight for the underdog. it's a shame that zos listens to faction roleplayers..
PvPers justifying killing questers and camping quest buildings a few weeks ago during the Jubilee event: "THIS IS WAR, THE ENEMY MUST DIE"
PvPers decrying faction lock "SWAP TO FIGHT FOR THE UNDERDOGS"
lolok.
FYI I also dabble in PvP but some of you are a special breed of whiny.
It’s odd that you think those two things are a contradiction
If we’re in a lopsided campaign on the winning side, it’s hard to find people to fight. No “enemies” to make die.
Both of those statements are just PvPers trying to find people to PvP.
SidraWillowsky wrote: »TriangularChicken wrote: »vinay you waste your time on the forums..these guys here clearly do nothing else but zerg surf all day long..they don't understand how it is to play in a small group and not finding fights or switching to fight for the underdog. it's a shame that zos listens to faction roleplayers..
PvPers justifying killing questers and camping quest buildings a few weeks ago during the Jubilee event: "THIS IS WAR, THE ENEMY MUST DIE"
PvPers decrying faction lock "SWAP TO FIGHT FOR THE UNDERDOGS"
lolok.
FYI I also dabble in PvP but some of you are a special breed of whiny.
It’s odd that you think those two things are a contradiction
If we’re in a lopsided campaign on the winning side, it’s hard to find people to fight. No “enemies” to make die.
Both of those statements are just PvPers trying to find people to PvP.
Pve questers in cyrodiil wasn't about finding PvP, was about finding easy target. The pve pakyers rarely even had a chance to see anything, let alone fight back. For that kind of action, go fight a target dummy, it's about the same experience.
Don't fool yourself into thinking it's the same because it isn't. PvP is fine, griefing is not. The harassment against pve players was griefing, nothing else.
AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »TequilaFire wrote: »TequilaFire wrote: »Put your actions where your mouth is and turn Shor into a busy campaign like Vivec if there are so many that feel like you do.
We could use less lag on Vivec, so spread out.
Try again. Not enough population between all servers to support more than one on XNA during off peak. It's not rare that 30cp will hit zero pop bars on one or two factions.
How do you figure?
If people don't play alliance locked campaign and go to an unlocked one there will be enough players.
Or are you saying that the ones crying about the locks are actually a small group?
Is everybody so stubborn they have to faction stack on one campaign?
I thought snall scalers wanted smaller fights.
Or is it they want to make YouTube videos farming noobs?
We don’t want smaller fights, we want larger outnumbered fights. We enjoy the challenge, even if we get zerged down. That’s the rush, the fun, trying to pull off the unthinkable.
You simply cannot do that if your faction is zerging everyone else into the floor, there are physically no fights to be had.
Don’t get me wrong, I’ll have no qualms with factions locks as long as my main faction with my main is the one with the least population. But I simply cannot enjoy this game if I go into the only populated campaign only to find EP is zerging everything down effectively killing off all the fights. And I know this will happen at some point or another, so that’s why I and several others are so vocal against faction locks.
BGs is not a viable alternative as I have to sit in 30 minute queues on my main to find a match that just isn’t fun. Add competitive arenas to the game and you can faction lock every campaign for all I care, then the good PvPers would have something meaningful occupying majority of our time.
That should be possible though, if say you had 30 friends in your guild you could have 25 of them log on to AD alts on the non-faction locked campaign and 5 on EP alts and you could take down that 25 man group in some tough fought, near impossible fights. That's what GG is about, that kind of nail biting win. And since you see everywhere that faction hoppers are the majority in PVP you don't need zergblob0skillz to feed your need for carnage, you got what you need already for the really good fights, you just have to get organized.
This has all happened before, people step up and create the content, and they make good, balanced fights. If you are being sincere and good fights are what you want, rally your best and take your game up a notch!
Wha...what? That might single handedly be the worst counter-argument I have ever seen articulated on these forums. Seriously.
I can barely even muster up a response for that it’s so bad...I’ll just leave you with the fact that no small scalers is going to actively participate in a 25 v 5 fight, small scale is literally when your group is 8 or less. I can say the same thing to you for wanting faction locks, contact other zerg leaders on other factions and organize yourselves going into one of the dead campaigns and duking it out, then you never have to worry about faction hoppers or night cappers because you’re in a dead campaign!! Woohoo!!
Onto the next counterclaim. You’re out.
Seriously though I have to add, is that just a troll? Genuinely? Because I still can’t believe someone typed that out being serious.
Your reply is all I needed to know that you were one of the griefers during the Jubilee event. Sux when can’t kill players in Vivek and you run to a low pop to PVP PVE players.SidraWillowsky wrote: »TriangularChicken wrote: »vinay you waste your time on the forums..these guys here clearly do nothing else but zerg surf all day long..they don't understand how it is to play in a small group and not finding fights or switching to fight for the underdog. it's a shame that zos listens to faction roleplayers..
PvPers justifying killing questers and camping quest buildings a few weeks ago during the Jubilee event: "THIS IS WAR, THE ENEMY MUST DIE"
PvPers decrying faction lock "SWAP TO FIGHT FOR THE UNDERDOGS"
lolok.
FYI I also dabble in PvP but some of you are a special breed of whiny.
It’s odd that you think those two things are a contradiction
If we’re in a lopsided campaign on the winning side, it’s hard to find people to fight. No “enemies” to make die.
Both of those statements are just PvPers trying to find people to PvP.
Pve questers in cyrodiil wasn't about finding PvP, was about finding easy target. The pve pakyers rarely even had a chance to see anything, let alone fight back. For that kind of action, go fight a target dummy, it's about the same experience.
Don't fool yourself into thinking it's the same because it isn't. PvP is fine, griefing is not. The harassment against pve players was griefing, nothing else.
Finding people of an opposing alliance and killing them is PvP.
Both of those statements are trying to do that.
PvE players in cyrodil are people an opposing alliance. And they are killable. That’s PvP.
It’s Lopsided PvP.. cherry picking PvP. Low to no-skill required PvP.. but it’s still PvP.
Spawn camping them would be griefing.
But regardless, you’ve made it clear that you don’t consider a player killing another player in a PvP zone to be PvP. So with great logic like yours, im not surprised to see what side of this issue you’re on. You fit right in.
SidraWillowsky wrote: »TriangularChicken wrote: »vinay you waste your time on the forums..these guys here clearly do nothing else but zerg surf all day long..they don't understand how it is to play in a small group and not finding fights or switching to fight for the underdog. it's a shame that zos listens to faction roleplayers..
PvPers justifying killing questers and camping quest buildings a few weeks ago during the Jubilee event: "THIS IS WAR, THE ENEMY MUST DIE"
PvPers decrying faction lock "SWAP TO FIGHT FOR THE UNDERDOGS"
lolok.
FYI I also dabble in PvP but some of you are a special breed of whiny.
It’s odd that you think those two things are a contradiction
If we’re in a lopsided campaign on the winning side, it’s hard to find people to fight. No “enemies” to make die.
Both of those statements are just PvPers trying to find people to PvP.
Pve questers in cyrodiil wasn't about finding PvP, was about finding easy target. The pve pakyers rarely even had a chance to see anything, let alone fight back. For that kind of action, go fight a target dummy, it's about the same experience.
Don't fool yourself into thinking it's the same because it isn't. PvP is fine, griefing is not. The harassment against pve players was griefing, nothing else.
Finding people of an opposing alliance and killing them is PvP.
Both of those statements are trying to do that.
PvE players in cyrodil are people of an opposing alliance. And they are killable. That’s PvP.
It’s Lopsided PvP.. cherry picking PvP. Low to no-skill required PvP.. but it’s still PvP.
Spawn camping them would be But spawn camping isn’t possible in ESO unless a faction gets gate camped, which surprisingly is something that the pro-faction lock crowd is in support of. The anti faction lock crowd despises gate camping because it removes the possibility of a good fight.
But regardless, you’ve made it clear that you don’t consider a player killing another player in a PvP zone to be PvP. So with great logic like yours, im not surprised to see what side of this issue you’re on. You fit right in.
Your reply is all I needed to know that you were one of the griefers during the Jubilee event. Sux when can’t kill players in Vivek and you run to a low pop to PVP PVE players.SidraWillowsky wrote: »TriangularChicken wrote: »vinay you waste your time on the forums..these guys here clearly do nothing else but zerg surf all day long..they don't understand how it is to play in a small group and not finding fights or switching to fight for the underdog. it's a shame that zos listens to faction roleplayers..
PvPers justifying killing questers and camping quest buildings a few weeks ago during the Jubilee event: "THIS IS WAR, THE ENEMY MUST DIE"
PvPers decrying faction lock "SWAP TO FIGHT FOR THE UNDERDOGS"
lolok.
FYI I also dabble in PvP but some of you are a special breed of whiny.
It’s odd that you think those two things are a contradiction
If we’re in a lopsided campaign on the winning side, it’s hard to find people to fight. No “enemies” to make die.
Both of those statements are just PvPers trying to find people to PvP.
Pve questers in cyrodiil wasn't about finding PvP, was about finding easy target. The pve pakyers rarely even had a chance to see anything, let alone fight back. For that kind of action, go fight a target dummy, it's about the same experience.
Don't fool yourself into thinking it's the same because it isn't. PvP is fine, griefing is not. The harassment against pve players was griefing, nothing else.
Finding people of an opposing alliance and killing them is PvP.
Both of those statements are trying to do that.
PvE players in cyrodil are people an opposing alliance. And they are killable. That’s PvP.
It’s Lopsided PvP.. cherry picking PvP. Low to no-skill required PvP.. but it’s still PvP.
Spawn camping them would be griefing.
But regardless, you’ve made it clear that you don’t consider a player killing another player in a PvP zone to be PvP. So with great logic like yours, im not surprised to see what side of this issue you’re on. You fit right in.
You all musta felt so accomplished.
SidraWillowsky wrote: »TriangularChicken wrote: »vinay you waste your time on the forums..these guys here clearly do nothing else but zerg surf all day long..they don't understand how it is to play in a small group and not finding fights or switching to fight for the underdog. it's a shame that zos listens to faction roleplayers..
PvPers justifying killing questers and camping quest buildings a few weeks ago during the Jubilee event: "THIS IS WAR, THE ENEMY MUST DIE"
PvPers decrying faction lock "SWAP TO FIGHT FOR THE UNDERDOGS"
lolok.
FYI I also dabble in PvP but some of you are a special breed of whiny.
It’s odd that you think those two things are a contradiction
If we’re in a lopsided campaign on the winning side, it’s hard to find people to fight. No “enemies” to make die.
Both of those statements are just PvPers trying to find people to PvP.
Pve questers in cyrodiil wasn't about finding PvP, was about finding easy target. The pve pakyers rarely even had a chance to see anything, let alone fight back. For that kind of action, go fight a target dummy, it's about the same experience.
Don't fool yourself into thinking it's the same because it isn't. PvP is fine, griefing is not. The harassment against pve players was griefing, nothing else.
Finding people of an opposing alliance and killing them is PvP.
Both of those statements are trying to do that.
PvE players in cyrodil are people of an opposing alliance. And they are killable. That’s PvP.
It’s Lopsided PvP.. cherry picking PvP. Low to no-skill required PvP.. but it’s still PvP.
Spawn camping them would be But spawn camping isn’t possible in ESO unless a faction gets gate camped, which surprisingly is something that the pro-faction lock crowd is in support of. The anti faction lock crowd despises gate camping because it removes the possibility of a good fight.
But regardless, you’ve made it clear that you don’t consider a player killing another player in a PvP zone to be PvP. So with great logic like yours, im not surprised to see what side of this issue you’re on. You fit right in.
EdoKeledus wrote: »Faction lock should have been for the account from the beginning. One account, one faction.
Your reply is all I needed to know that you were one of the griefers during the Jubilee event. Sux when can’t kill players in Vivek and you run to a low pop to PVP PVE players.SidraWillowsky wrote: »TriangularChicken wrote: »vinay you waste your time on the forums..these guys here clearly do nothing else but zerg surf all day long..they don't understand how it is to play in a small group and not finding fights or switching to fight for the underdog. it's a shame that zos listens to faction roleplayers..
PvPers justifying killing questers and camping quest buildings a few weeks ago during the Jubilee event: "THIS IS WAR, THE ENEMY MUST DIE"
PvPers decrying faction lock "SWAP TO FIGHT FOR THE UNDERDOGS"
lolok.
FYI I also dabble in PvP but some of you are a special breed of whiny.
It’s odd that you think those two things are a contradiction
If we’re in a lopsided campaign on the winning side, it’s hard to find people to fight. No “enemies” to make die.
Both of those statements are just PvPers trying to find people to PvP.
Pve questers in cyrodiil wasn't about finding PvP, was about finding easy target. The pve pakyers rarely even had a chance to see anything, let alone fight back. For that kind of action, go fight a target dummy, it's about the same experience.
Don't fool yourself into thinking it's the same because it isn't. PvP is fine, griefing is not. The harassment against pve players was griefing, nothing else.
Finding people of an opposing alliance and killing them is PvP.
Both of those statements are trying to do that.
PvE players in cyrodil are people an opposing alliance. And they are killable. That’s PvP.
It’s Lopsided PvP.. cherry picking PvP. Low to no-skill required PvP.. but it’s still PvP.
Spawn camping them would be griefing.
But regardless, you’ve made it clear that you don’t consider a player killing another player in a PvP zone to be PvP. So with great logic like yours, im not surprised to see what side of this issue you’re on. You fit right in.
You all musta felt so accomplished.
SidraWillowsky wrote: »TriangularChicken wrote: »vinay you waste your time on the forums..these guys here clearly do nothing else but zerg surf all day long..they don't understand how it is to play in a small group and not finding fights or switching to fight for the underdog. it's a shame that zos listens to faction roleplayers..
PvPers justifying killing questers and camping quest buildings a few weeks ago during the Jubilee event: "THIS IS WAR, THE ENEMY MUST DIE"
PvPers decrying faction lock "SWAP TO FIGHT FOR THE UNDERDOGS"
lolok.
FYI I also dabble in PvP but some of you are a special breed of whiny.
It’s odd that you think those two things are a contradiction
If we’re in a lopsided campaign on the winning side, it’s hard to find people to fight. No “enemies” to make die.
Both of those statements are just PvPers trying to find people to PvP.
Pve questers in cyrodiil wasn't about finding PvP, was about finding easy target. The pve pakyers rarely even had a chance to see anything, let alone fight back. For that kind of action, go fight a target dummy, it's about the same experience.
Don't fool yourself into thinking it's the same because it isn't. PvP is fine, griefing is not. The harassment against pve players was griefing, nothing else.
Finding people of an opposing alliance and killing them is PvP.
Both of those statements are trying to do that.
PvE players in cyrodil are people of an opposing alliance. And they are killable. That’s PvP.
It’s Lopsided PvP.. cherry picking PvP. Low to no-skill required PvP.. but it’s still PvP.
Spawn camping them would be But spawn camping isn’t possible in ESO unless a faction gets gate camped, which surprisingly is something that the pro-faction lock crowd is in support of. The anti faction lock crowd despises gate camping because it removes the possibility of a good fight.
But regardless, you’ve made it clear that you don’t consider a player killing another player in a PvP zone to be PvP. So with great logic like yours, im not surprised to see what side of this issue you’re on. You fit right in.
Oh, btw... Putting a freaking catapult inside the church in bruma is literally spawn camping, since you get a loading screen of sorts when going in, and that one or two seconds is enough to get you dead trying to deliver quest.
You freaking griefers... Grow a pair and go take a keep.
I'm done with this convo.
SidraWillowsky wrote: »TriangularChicken wrote: »vinay you waste your time on the forums..these guys here clearly do nothing else but zerg surf all day long..they don't understand how it is to play in a small group and not finding fights or switching to fight for the underdog. it's a shame that zos listens to faction roleplayers..
PvPers justifying killing questers and camping quest buildings a few weeks ago during the Jubilee event: "THIS IS WAR, THE ENEMY MUST DIE"
PvPers decrying faction lock "SWAP TO FIGHT FOR THE UNDERDOGS"
lolok.
FYI I also dabble in PvP but some of you are a special breed of whiny.
It’s odd that you think those two things are a contradiction
If we’re in a lopsided campaign on the winning side, it’s hard to find people to fight. No “enemies” to make die.
Both of those statements are just PvPers trying to find people to PvP.
Pve questers in cyrodiil wasn't about finding PvP, was about finding easy target. The pve pakyers rarely even had a chance to see anything, let alone fight back. For that kind of action, go fight a target dummy, it's about the same experience.
Don't fool yourself into thinking it's the same because it isn't. PvP is fine, griefing is not. The harassment against pve players was griefing, nothing else.
Finding people of an opposing alliance and killing them is PvP.
Both of those statements are trying to do that.
PvE players in cyrodil are people of an opposing alliance. And they are killable. That’s PvP.
It’s Lopsided PvP.. cherry picking PvP. Low to no-skill required PvP.. but it’s still PvP.
Spawn camping them would be But spawn camping isn’t possible in ESO unless a faction gets gate camped, which surprisingly is something that the pro-faction lock crowd is in support of. The anti faction lock crowd despises gate camping because it removes the possibility of a good fight.
But regardless, you’ve made it clear that you don’t consider a player killing another player in a PvP zone to be PvP. So with great logic like yours, im not surprised to see what side of this issue you’re on. You fit right in.
Oh, btw... Putting a freaking catapult inside the church in bruma is literally spawn camping, since you get a loading screen of sorts when going in, and that one or two seconds is enough to get you dead trying to deliver quest.
You freaking griefers... Grow a pair and go take a keep.
I'm done with this convo.
khajiitNPC wrote: »I play in small groups of about 8-10 and we LOVE the return of faction lock. But then again we all have characters on the same alliance. Too bad for you.
This isn’t a Zerg mentality, it’s a game design mentality, there are plenty of alternatives. Those who play AvAvA should get some sort of benefit for playing one alliance. So get over it. Go QQ into Molag Bal’s Muatra.
TequilaFire wrote: »TequilaFire wrote: »Put your actions where your mouth is and turn Shor into a busy campaign like Vivec if there are so many that feel like you do.
We could use less lag on Vivec, so spread out.
Try again. Not enough population between all servers to support more than one on XNA during off peak. It's not rare that 30cp will hit zero pop bars on one or two factions.
How do you figure?
If people don't play alliance locked campaign and go to an unlocked one there will be enough players.
Or are you saying that the ones crying about the locks are actually a small group?
Is everybody so stubborn they have to faction stack on one campaign?
I thought snall scalers wanted smaller fights.
Or is it they want to make YouTube videos farming noobs?