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Sorry but why are we all suddenly calling Khajiit BREEDS using the word FURSTOCK.

Nyladreas
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For years and years we always used the word Breeds. Even in the books ingame you can see the word Breeds for their description. Not Furstock. Where did the word Furstock even come from. It sounds weird and wrong.

When I hear furstock i'm thinking about a pile of fur at a merchant's tent. (No, it's not a some bad pun.)
Edited by Nyladreas on May 26, 2019 11:34AM
  • Royaji
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    Nyladreas wrote: »
    When I hear furstock i'm thinking about a pile of fur at a merchant's tent. (No, it's not a some bad pun.)

    You've answered your own question.
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    Royaji wrote: »
    Nyladreas wrote: »
    When I hear furstock i'm thinking about a pile of fur at a merchant's tent. (No, it's not a some bad pun.)

    You've answered your own question.

    I kinda doubt it's that since the khajiit merchants memes were around for ages.
    Edited by Nyladreas on May 26, 2019 11:40AM
  • bearbelly
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    Royaji wrote: »
    Nyladreas wrote: »
    When I hear furstock i'm thinking about a pile of fur at a merchant's tent. (No, it's not a some bad pun.)

    You've answered your own question.

    You mean kinda like how all Argonian characters could be named Tastes-Like-Chicken?
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    That's their lorename. Since they aren't specifically bred for their "breed" but it changes based on when they are born furstock makes more sense than "breed". You can also call them variety if you prefer.
    "If a stick of fish is a fish stick, it will stick like other fish sticks stick"
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    LMar wrote: »
    That's their lorename. Since they aren't specifically bred for their "breed" but it changes based on when they are born furstock makes more sense than "breed". You can also call them variety if you prefer.

    I haven't seen that until lately. Even UESP used to call them breeds, someone just went at some point and replaced all the words "breeds" with "furstocks" there. That's basically why i started this thread. But hey That's good enough for me :) so Thanks.

    All I know is that at some point in 2015 Lawrence Schick used the term "furstock" for the first time as Moon Bishop Hulan. And that's what it has been since. Why is that weird to me? Cause like i said, it feels like Khajiit are somekind of item, and even themselves used to call it breeds. Lol.
    Edited by Nyladreas on May 26, 2019 11:51AM
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    bearbelly wrote: »
    Royaji wrote: »
    Nyladreas wrote: »
    When I hear furstock i'm thinking about a pile of fur at a merchant's tent. (No, it's not a some bad pun.)

    You've answered your own question.

    You mean kinda like how all Argonian characters could be named Tastes-Like-Chicken?

    I personally prefer Fits-on-My-Foot and Holds-My-Coins.
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    Royaji wrote: »
    bearbelly wrote: »
    Royaji wrote: »
    Nyladreas wrote: »
    When I hear furstock i'm thinking about a pile of fur at a merchant's tent. (No, it's not a some bad pun.)

    You've answered your own question.

    You mean kinda like how all Argonian characters could be named Tastes-Like-Chicken?

    I personally prefer Fits-on-My-Foot and Holds-My-Coins.

    Idk... I always seemed to like Keeps-Me-Warm the most. Also, this is now a pun thread.
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    LMar wrote: »
    That's their lorename. Since they aren't specifically bred for their "breed" but it changes based on when they are born furstock makes more sense than "breed". You can also call them variety if you prefer.

    Now on that topic when khajiit's breed is it cathay and cathay always or are their weird combos like cathay and senche rhat or do they also look at that like a farmer and his goat doing bad things.. like was razam dars dad a alfiq and mama a suthay kinda wtfery
  • Jamdarius
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    Nyladreas wrote: »
    For years and years we always used the word Breeds. Even in the books ingame you can see the word Breeds for their description. Not Furstock. Where did the word Furstock even come from. It sounds weird and wrong.

    When I hear furstock i'm thinking about a pile of fur at a merchant's tent. (No, it's not a some bad pun.)

    Actually you are first person I ever heard that used this term... So my guess is it is not that often used term or you just met bad people or people just roleplaying enemies of Khajiits.

    For the matter I call Khajiits "breeds" sub-species or just type of Khajiit.
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    Jamdarius wrote: »
    Nyladreas wrote: »
    For years and years we always used the word Breeds. Even in the books ingame you can see the word Breeds for their description. Not Furstock. Where did the word Furstock even come from. It sounds weird and wrong.

    When I hear furstock i'm thinking about a pile of fur at a merchant's tent. (No, it's not a some bad pun.)

    Actually you are first person I ever heard that used this term... So my guess is it is not that often used term or you just met bad people or people just roleplaying enemies of Khajiits.

    For the matter I call Khajiits "breeds" sub-species or just type of Khajiit.

    then you weren't looking. its all over this forum and ingame
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    Now on that topic when khajiit's breed is it cathay and cathay always or are their weird combos like cathay and senche rhat or do they also look at that like a farmer and his goat doing bad things.. like was razam dars dad a alfiq and mama a suthay kinda wtfery
    The difference here is a goat is a simple animal, while all the Khajiiti furstocks are 100% sentient, self-aware, cognizant individuals who can speak and are capable of consent and all that, regardless of their shape or size. An Alfiq might be small and look like an animal, but they aren't an animal, they're as much a Khajiit as any Cathay or Pahmer or other bipedal variety.

    Edit to add that in regards to your question, I don't think there'd be any real discrimination. If you talk to one of the Alfiq in Rimmen he gets really offended when outsiders refer to him as a simple animal, and there's a Senche-raht I believe who mentions never leaving Elsweyr because anywhere else, he'd be seen as nothing more than a dumb animal. It sort of implies that Khajiit, at least to one another, are all Khajiit regardless of what form they take, and thus I don't see any discrimination going on between the furstocks in terms of relationships.
    Edited by Arunei on May 26, 2019 5:49PM
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    We've been calling them "furstocks" for years on the ESO forum and subreddit because that's some of the new lore introduced in this game. It goes back at the very least to 2015 and Moon Bishop Hunal's Official Interview, if not earlier.
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    It makes sense, if you think about it, we don't differentiate between different types of humans by calling them 'breeds' like we do for animals... At least we don't in the Current Year. However 'Race' has quite a different meaning in The Elder Scrolls universe, so calling them different races of Khajiit wouldn't sound right either. 'Furstock' is a compromise that doesn't dehumanize an intelligent race by comparing them to animals, even if they are cute and fluffy.
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    i think it has to do with literary accuracy. breed implies domestication, and that certain looks are chosen. and that simply is not the case.
    Where as furstock implies just a diff look of the same species. Which is what is actually true. Especially since all khajiit are sentient beings. So talking about a type of breed of Khajiit would actually be extremely racist. In line with how ***'s saw jewish people. (see WW2 historic documentation. and why Jewish prisoners were given numbers, like they were animals.)

    Might want to think on that.
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