No Elemental Drain in VMA?

Amorpho

I noticed that many people do not run elemental drain in VMA on their magicka toons. I wonder why, since it provides better sustain and more damage against bosses with higher resistances. Am I missing something?

tmbrinks

Amorpho wrote: »

I noticed that many people do not run elemental drain in VMA on their magicka toons. I wonder why, since it provides better sustain and more damage against bosses with higher resistances. Am I missing something?

The sustain would be used. But, vMA is the only place in the game where the resistances are not the standard 18.2k, so it's not needed.

MissBizz

VMA is also the one place in game where the all mobs don't have the standard 18.2k resistance. The adds fall down easy enough without it, so better off slotting something else. Some mobs only have like 9k resistance.

Amorpho

MissBizz wrote: »

VMA is also the one place in game where the all mobs don't have the standard 18.2k resistance. The adds fall down easy enough without it, so better off slotting something else. Some mobs only have like 9k resistance.

So, can anyone tell me the exact resistances of mobs in there? I thought that 2 bosses had 18.2k resistance. In any case, light armor passive, ele drain and CP alone don't take yout to 18.2k

MakeMeUhSamich

Amorpho wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

VMA is also the one place in game where the all mobs don't have the standard 18.2k resistance. The adds fall down easy enough without it, so better off slotting something else. Some mobs only have like 9k resistance.

So, can anyone tell me the exact resistances of mobs in there? I thought that 2 bosses had 18.2k resistance. In any case, light armor passive, ele drain and CP alone don't take yout to 18.2k

The Lover Mundus is often used, too.

tmbrinks

Amorpho wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

VMA is also the one place in game where the all mobs don't have the standard 18.2k resistance. The adds fall down easy enough without it, so better off slotting something else. Some mobs only have like 9k resistance.

So, can anyone tell me the exact resistances of mobs in there? I thought that 2 bosses had 18.2k resistance. In any case, light armor passive, ele drain and CP alone don't take yout to 18.2k

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/373925/veteran-maelstrom-arena-mob-resistances

Not my research, but was posted here.

Amorpho

tmbrinks wrote: »

Amorpho wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

VMA is also the one place in game where the all mobs don't have the standard 18.2k resistance. The adds fall down easy enough without it, so better off slotting something else. Some mobs only have like 9k resistance.

So, can anyone tell me the exact resistances of mobs in there? I thought that 2 bosses had 18.2k resistance. In any case, light armor passive, ele drain and CP alone don't take yout to 18.2k

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/373925/veteran-maelstrom-arena-mob-resistances

Not my research, but was posted here.

Thanks a lot for this! It is clear that every stage has at least someone with 18.2k Spell or Physical resistance, the other mini bosses have 12k. That tells me that elemental drain is worth slotting and using on bosses and minibosses since 12k spell penetration can easily be achieved through light armor passive, CP and Ele Drain (without Lover mundus).

Unless those values have been nerfed?

supaskrub

I just run with 12k on my mag characters, cant be bothered using drain as i just dont need it, even the 18k resist enemies melt due to power creep, probs worth it for low cp players but stuffs generally dead or as good as dead in no time anyway these days.

SirAndy

I use it on my PetSorc since i have it slotted as part of my normal rotation anyways ...

Joy_Division

Generally stuff dies so fast don't really need it.

ATomiX96

stuff dies too fast to waste a gcd on ele drain

MakeMeUhSamich

I use Ele for boss fights and upstairs crystals since I don’t change to Lover Mundus and it helps with sustain.

Totally your preference. More than one way to skin a duck.

therift

I use Wall of Lightning, heavy attacks, and Harness Magicka. 1 bar. 2 pets. Sometimes I remember to pulse the monkey, but for most of vMA, it's superfluous.

You may be overthinking it.

Gnortranermara

Amorpho wrote: »

Thanks a lot for this! It is clear that every stage has at least someone with 18.2k Spell or Physical resistance, the other mini bosses have 12k. That tells me that elemental drain is worth slotting and using on bosses and minibosses since 12k spell penetration can easily be achieved through light armor passive, CP and Ele Drain (without Lover mundus).

Being useful on 1-2 encounters per stage is not "worth slotting", compared to any other ability that would be useful on all mobs - including those 1-2 that you want to put ele on. It really isn't worth it because there are always stronger abilities that would do better all around.

Amorpho

supaskrub wrote: »

I just run with 12k on my mag characters, cant be bothered using drain as i just dont need it, even the 18k resist enemies melt due to power creep, probs worth it for low cp players but stuffs generally dead or as good as dead in no time anyway these days.

how do you reach 12k pen without ele drain? Lover+sharp+cp?

siddique

Ele drain helps in destroying the crystals in last stage really quick so I don't have to fall down to an annoying crem guard before I destroy all three crystals.