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Will we be able to beam directly to Imperial City after the next update?
icecb16_ESO
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I might be mistaken but did I read something that they were going to make it possible to beam directly to the Imperial city, so us pve'ers can at least get in to the city safely?
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Meesha1170✭✭✭✭I believe that is the case. It should be like joining a campaign but in this instance I imagine it ports you right to your alliance’s sewer base.
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✭✭✭✭✭Theoretically However, I did not see a campaign for it on PTS. While I did not go out and actually check to see if the sewer entrance was no longer in Cyrodiil, I did not see the old icons for their location on the map. The whole idea was to separate it completely from Cyrodiil campaigns.Really, idk -
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✭✭✭✭✭that would be a really nice surprise, and, if they made a few adjustments to imperial city...number one being able to respawn on any friendly district alliance platform...
when people aren't worried about dying - they get awfully brave...
sure it becomes "meaningless" combat, besides for the AP earned (very few of the active fighters carry many stones) but, it is mind numbingly fun for some of us...
a true fight club...Edited by geonsocal on May 19, 2019 8:23AMPS4/NA & EU (Cyro & IC): This Must Be The Place...Traders RefugeThe Purple Gang
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✭✭✭✭✭I’ve never been ganked outside the sewer entrance, imho this change will make easier for carebears to get into IC, but it also makes it easier for gankers.#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
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icecb16_ESO✭✭They should make it so you can turn a flag off for non-pvp and then only the npc's can attack.
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✭✭✭✭✭icecb16_ESO wrote: »They should make it so you can turn a flag off for non-pvp and then only the npc's can attack.
Not really.
Okay, first, if that were implemented, it would let someone farm Tel Var without risk. Just turn of PvP, go in, and harvest to your heart's content. So, that's a hard no.
It gets better, because you could flag yourself as PvE only, go around, find players in trouble, flip your flag, kill them, collect their Tel Var, then flip your flag back to PvE. So, that'd be all kinds of messed up. Keep in mind, on PC, even if it's buried in a menu, it could probably be achieved with a slash command or an addon.
If you restricted it to only in the sewer bases, we're back to people simply farming Tel Var, completely devaluing that currency.
Finally, it would create a lot of visual noise, as you had players bouncing in and out who may, or may not, be PvP enabled, even if it's base restricted, there'd be the added confusion if the person you saw ten minutes ago had gone back to base, flagged themselves for PvP and came back. As it currently exists, you're not going to see players changing their alliance on a whim.
Oh, right, and this is without thinking about the royal cluster**** that would come from people capturing districts while flagged for PvE.
So, no, not a good idea.Co-Host of The Tenets: a podcast focused on bringing new players up to speed in ESO. -
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✭I’ve never been ganked outside the sewer entrance, imho this change will make easier for carebears to get into IC, but it also makes it easier for gankers.
I have ganked LOTS of people at the entrance xD if they show up when I'm waiting for a friend xDstarkerealm wrote: »icecb16_ESO wrote: »They should make it so you can turn a flag off for non-pvp and then only the npc's can attack.
Not really.
Okay, first, if that were implemented, it would let someone farm Tel Var without risk. Just turn of PvP, go in, and harvest to your heart's content. So, that's a hard no.
It gets better, because you could flag yourself as PvE only, go around, find players in trouble, flip your flag, kill them, collect their Tel Var, then flip your flag back to PvE. So, that'd be all kinds of messed up. Keep in mind, on PC, even if it's buried in a menu, it could probably be achieved with a slash command or an addon.
If you restricted it to only in the sewer bases, we're back to people simply farming Tel Var, completely devaluing that currency.
Finally, it would create a lot of visual noise, as you had players bouncing in and out who may, or may not, be PvP enabled, even if it's base restricted, there'd be the added confusion if the person you saw ten minutes ago had gone back to base, flagged themselves for PvP and came back. As it currently exists, you're not going to see players changing their alliance on a whim.
Oh, right, and this is without thinking about the royal cluster**** that would come from people capturing districts while flagged for PvE.
So, no, not a good idea.
Ew PVE IC better NEVER happen!
Only way I'd grudgingly accept it is QUEST MODE. No flags, no pvp and NO TELVAR DROPS!Edited by IzzyStardust on May 19, 2019 1:54PM -
TheRealPotoroo✭✭✭✭✭
✭IzzyStardust wrote: »I’ve never been ganked outside the sewer entrance, imho this change will make easier for carebears to get into IC, but it also makes it easier for gankers.
I have ganked LOTS of people at the entrance xD if they show up when I'm waiting for a friend xDstarkerealm wrote: »icecb16_ESO wrote: »They should make it so you can turn a flag off for non-pvp and then only the npc's can attack.
Not really.
Okay, first, if that were implemented, it would let someone farm Tel Var without risk. Just turn of PvP, go in, and harvest to your heart's content. So, that's a hard no.
It gets better, because you could flag yourself as PvE only, go around, find players in trouble, flip your flag, kill them, collect their Tel Var, then flip your flag back to PvE. So, that'd be all kinds of messed up. Keep in mind, on PC, even if it's buried in a menu, it could probably be achieved with a slash command or an addon.
If you restricted it to only in the sewer bases, we're back to people simply farming Tel Var, completely devaluing that currency.
Finally, it would create a lot of visual noise, as you had players bouncing in and out who may, or may not, be PvP enabled, even if it's base restricted, there'd be the added confusion if the person you saw ten minutes ago had gone back to base, flagged themselves for PvP and came back. As it currently exists, you're not going to see players changing their alliance on a whim.
Oh, right, and this is without thinking about the royal cluster**** that would come from people capturing districts while flagged for PvE.
So, no, not a good idea.
Ew PVE IC better NEVER happen!
Only way I'd grudgingly accept it is QUEST MODE. No flags, no pvp and NO TELVAR DROPS!
That's fine. I only want to do the quests and pick up skyshards and lore books along the way. Under no circumstances do I want to fight another player.PC NA, PC EU
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✭✭icecb16_ESO wrote: »They should make it so you can turn a flag off for non-pvp and then only the npc's can attack.
I'm not a big PvP person, but this would kind of destroy the whole point of Cyradil.
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✭✭I predict it will be like Christmas for gankers for a few days after this change. Then it will go back to being empty.
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I agree.starkerealm wrote: »icecb16_ESO wrote: »They should make it so you can turn a flag off for non-pvp and then only the npc's can attack.
Not really.
Okay, first, if that were implemented, it would let someone farm Tel Var without risk. Just turn of PvP, go in, and harvest to your heart's content. So, that's a hard no.
It gets better, because you could flag yourself as PvE only, go around, find players in trouble, flip your flag, kill them, collect their Tel Var, then flip your flag back to PvE. So, that'd be all kinds of messed up. Keep in mind, on PC, even if it's buried in a menu, it could probably be achieved with a slash command or an addon.
If you restricted it to only in the sewer bases, we're back to people simply farming Tel Var, completely devaluing that currency.
Finally, it would create a lot of visual noise, as you had players bouncing in and out who may, or may not, be PvP enabled, even if it's base restricted, there'd be the added confusion if the person you saw ten minutes ago had gone back to base, flagged themselves for PvP and came back. As it currently exists, you're not going to see players changing their alliance on a whim.
Oh, right, and this is without thinking about the royal cluster**** that would come from people capturing districts while flagged for PvE.
So, no, not a good idea.
The only way it would work is if you had to toggle PvE-mode before you entered the campaign, and weren't able to flip yourself back to PvP-mode once you were in Cyrodiil or IC. Although, it seems like that would be doable.
Edited by SydneyGrey on May 19, 2019 5:19PM -
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✭✭✭✭✭IzzyStardust wrote: »I’ve never been ganked outside the sewer entrance, imho this change will make easier for carebears to get into IC, but it also makes it easier for gankers.
I have ganked LOTS of people at the entrance xD if they show up when I'm waiting for a friend xDstarkerealm wrote: »icecb16_ESO wrote: »They should make it so you can turn a flag off for non-pvp and then only the npc's can attack.
Not really.
Okay, first, if that were implemented, it would let someone farm Tel Var without risk. Just turn of PvP, go in, and harvest to your heart's content. So, that's a hard no.
It gets better, because you could flag yourself as PvE only, go around, find players in trouble, flip your flag, kill them, collect their Tel Var, then flip your flag back to PvE. So, that'd be all kinds of messed up. Keep in mind, on PC, even if it's buried in a menu, it could probably be achieved with a slash command or an addon.
If you restricted it to only in the sewer bases, we're back to people simply farming Tel Var, completely devaluing that currency.
Finally, it would create a lot of visual noise, as you had players bouncing in and out who may, or may not, be PvP enabled, even if it's base restricted, there'd be the added confusion if the person you saw ten minutes ago had gone back to base, flagged themselves for PvP and came back. As it currently exists, you're not going to see players changing their alliance on a whim.
Oh, right, and this is without thinking about the royal cluster**** that would come from people capturing districts while flagged for PvE.
So, no, not a good idea.
Ew PVE IC better NEVER happen!
Only way I'd grudgingly accept it is QUEST MODE. No flags, no pvp and NO TELVAR DROPS!
Yikes.#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
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✭✭IzzyStardust wrote: »I’ve never been ganked outside the sewer entrance, imho this change will make easier for carebears to get into IC, but it also makes it easier for gankers.
I have ganked LOTS of people at the entrance xD if they show up when I'm waiting for a friend xDstarkerealm wrote: »icecb16_ESO wrote: »They should make it so you can turn a flag off for non-pvp and then only the npc's can attack.
Not really.
Okay, first, if that were implemented, it would let someone farm Tel Var without risk. Just turn of PvP, go in, and harvest to your heart's content. So, that's a hard no.
It gets better, because you could flag yourself as PvE only, go around, find players in trouble, flip your flag, kill them, collect their Tel Var, then flip your flag back to PvE. So, that'd be all kinds of messed up. Keep in mind, on PC, even if it's buried in a menu, it could probably be achieved with a slash command or an addon.
If you restricted it to only in the sewer bases, we're back to people simply farming Tel Var, completely devaluing that currency.
Finally, it would create a lot of visual noise, as you had players bouncing in and out who may, or may not, be PvP enabled, even if it's base restricted, there'd be the added confusion if the person you saw ten minutes ago had gone back to base, flagged themselves for PvP and came back. As it currently exists, you're not going to see players changing their alliance on a whim.
Oh, right, and this is without thinking about the royal cluster**** that would come from people capturing districts while flagged for PvE.
So, no, not a good idea.
Ew PVE IC better NEVER happen!
Only way I'd grudgingly accept it is QUEST MODE. No flags, no pvp and NO TELVAR DROPS!
That'd be fine in my book. I just want to do the quests.A dude who likes tanking.
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✭✭✭✭✭TheRealPotoroo wrote: »IzzyStardust wrote: »I’ve never been ganked outside the sewer entrance, imho this change will make easier for carebears to get into IC, but it also makes it easier for gankers.
I have ganked LOTS of people at the entrance xD if they show up when I'm waiting for a friend xDstarkerealm wrote: »icecb16_ESO wrote: »They should make it so you can turn a flag off for non-pvp and then only the npc's can attack.
Not really.
Okay, first, if that were implemented, it would let someone farm Tel Var without risk. Just turn of PvP, go in, and harvest to your heart's content. So, that's a hard no.
It gets better, because you could flag yourself as PvE only, go around, find players in trouble, flip your flag, kill them, collect their Tel Var, then flip your flag back to PvE. So, that'd be all kinds of messed up. Keep in mind, on PC, even if it's buried in a menu, it could probably be achieved with a slash command or an addon.
If you restricted it to only in the sewer bases, we're back to people simply farming Tel Var, completely devaluing that currency.
Finally, it would create a lot of visual noise, as you had players bouncing in and out who may, or may not, be PvP enabled, even if it's base restricted, there'd be the added confusion if the person you saw ten minutes ago had gone back to base, flagged themselves for PvP and came back. As it currently exists, you're not going to see players changing their alliance on a whim.
Oh, right, and this is without thinking about the royal cluster**** that would come from people capturing districts while flagged for PvE.
So, no, not a good idea.
Ew PVE IC better NEVER happen!
Only way I'd grudgingly accept it is QUEST MODE. No flags, no pvp and NO TELVAR DROPS!
That's fine. I only want to do the quests and pick up skyshards and lore books along the way. Under no circumstances do I want to fight another player.
I mean, that's like, 20 minutes of content...
All good if that's what you want to do, I'm just amazed at all the people who think there's some vast exploration or meaningful content in Cyrodiil or IC. The Drake of Blades story is good, but you'd be just fine missing it, too.
This isn't me telling anyone where to go or what to play, either, before anyone hops on that particular train. Just amazed so many people want this content...until you blaze through it in 20 minutes and say to yourself "Oh, that was much ado about nothing".
The quests, especially in Cyrodiil, are truly nothing special. Yet, some people want to tear down what Cyrodiil/IC is supposed to be just to run a quick fetch quest, I guess....
So weird to me. But then again, I don't have to understand everything.Edited by Kel on May 19, 2019 8:09PM -
geonsocal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭TheRealPotoroo wrote: »IzzyStardust wrote: »I’ve never been ganked outside the sewer entrance, imho this change will make easier for carebears to get into IC, but it also makes it easier for gankers.
I have ganked LOTS of people at the entrance xD if they show up when I'm waiting for a friend xDstarkerealm wrote: »icecb16_ESO wrote: »They should make it so you can turn a flag off for non-pvp and then only the npc's can attack.
Not really.
Okay, first, if that were implemented, it would let someone farm Tel Var without risk. Just turn of PvP, go in, and harvest to your heart's content. So, that's a hard no.
It gets better, because you could flag yourself as PvE only, go around, find players in trouble, flip your flag, kill them, collect their Tel Var, then flip your flag back to PvE. So, that'd be all kinds of messed up. Keep in mind, on PC, even if it's buried in a menu, it could probably be achieved with a slash command or an addon.
If you restricted it to only in the sewer bases, we're back to people simply farming Tel Var, completely devaluing that currency.
Finally, it would create a lot of visual noise, as you had players bouncing in and out who may, or may not, be PvP enabled, even if it's base restricted, there'd be the added confusion if the person you saw ten minutes ago had gone back to base, flagged themselves for PvP and came back. As it currently exists, you're not going to see players changing their alliance on a whim.
Oh, right, and this is without thinking about the royal cluster**** that would come from people capturing districts while flagged for PvE.
So, no, not a good idea.
Ew PVE IC better NEVER happen!
Only way I'd grudgingly accept it is QUEST MODE. No flags, no pvp and NO TELVAR DROPS!
That's fine. I only want to do the quests and pick up skyshards and lore books along the way. Under no circumstances do I want to fight another player.
I mean, that's like, 20 minutes of content...
All good if that's what you want to do, I'm just amazed at all the people who think there's some vast exploration or meaningful content in Cyrodiil or IC. The Drake of Blades story is good, but you'd be just fine missing it, too.
This isn't me telling anyone where to go or what to play, either, before anyone hops on that particular train. Just amazed so many people want this content...until you blaze through it in 20 minutes and say to yourself "Oh, that was much ado about nothing".
The quests, especially in Cyrodiil, are truly nothing special. Yet, some people want to tear down what Cyrodiil/IC is supposed to be just to run a quick fetch quest, I guess....
So weird to me. But then again, I don't have to understand everything.
call me crazy/weird, i've literally spent 20 minutes before just chilling, soaking up that beautiful cold harbor sunshine, watching titan shadows fly overhead, and, watching other players fight and quest...
it's a great place to chill...PS4/NA & EU (Cyro & IC): This Must Be The Place...Traders RefugeThe Purple Gang
PVP: Brotherhood Without Banners"I don't have a lot to contribute because mostly I don't really care" -
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Then remove the multiplier in the Tel'var stone collection? Because anything below 2x/3x is really tiny and barely worth farming for. So in that sense, anyone who isn't a very patient farmer may very well end up switching to PvP for better odds. I mean, that is the ideal scenario people want to see, no?starkerealm wrote: »Okay, first, if that were implemented, it would let someone farm Tel Var without risk. Just turn of PvP, go in, and harvest to your heart's content. So, that's a hard no.
Make it so it's only Campaign related, or if you switch to PvE in the Sewers, you're phased in to a PvE phase and can only see other PvE players?starkerealm wrote: »It gets better, because you could flag yourself as PvE only, go around, find players in trouble, flip your flag, kill them, collect their Tel Var, then flip your flag back to PvE. So, that'd be all kinds of messed up. Keep in mind, on PC, even if it's buried in a menu, it could probably be achieved with a slash command or an addon.
What i said in the first paragraph.starkerealm wrote: »If you restricted it to only in the sewer bases, we're back to people simply farming Tel Var, completely devaluing that currency.
What I said in the second paragraph.starkerealm wrote: »Finally, it would create a lot of visual noise, as you had players bouncing in and out who may, or may not, be PvP enabled, even if it's base restricted, there'd be the added confusion if the person you saw ten minutes ago had gone back to base, flagged themselves for PvP and came back. As it currently exists, you're not going to see players changing their alliance on a whim.
A combination of the first and second paragraph.starkerealm wrote: »Oh, right, and this is without thinking about the royal cluster**** that would come from people capturing districts while flagged for PvE.
To you, maybe. To someone else though...starkerealm wrote: »So, no, not a good idea.
Eeeh... To be honest I've started seeing the only value out of the Imperial City being the vaults and the random gear you pick up down there. So I'd live with no Tel'var.IzzyStardust wrote: »Only way I'd grudgingly accept it is QUEST MODE. No flags, no pvp and NO TELVAR DROPS!
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✭✭✭There are four (4) currencies in the game.
PvE: Gold, Writ Vouchers
PvP: Alliance Points, Tel Var.
No getting AP or Tel Var in PvE content, sorry, tough tiddlywinks, that's the way it goes, and 'bye, Felicia.
This whole Cyrodiil/Imperial City EZ mode discussion is pointless; ZoS has said several times they have no intentions of making duplicate content.
Asking for a PvE version of PvP zones is, at minimum, segregationist. Please stop.
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Mitrenga✭✭✭✭✭icecb16_ESO wrote: »They should make it so you can turn a flag off for non-pvp and then only the npc's can attack.
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Kalik_Gold✭✭✭✭✭Never found it hard to run and zone in, not sure how this makes PvP better. I do understand the head count of who is in IC shouldn’t affect Cyro tho, that is a positive.
Basically just kills the immersion, of IC sewers and IC in the middle of Cyrodiil.Ras Kalik | Redguard - Templar | The Vestige, Ahkahtuz | Champion 1000+ | PS4/NA | ESO+ Cancelled | DC PVPPvP Combatants:
Aurik Siet'ka | Redguard - Necromancer
Cee Fôr | Redguard, Vampire - Nightblade
Cacique the Sage of Ius | Redguard - Warden
Jux Blackheart | Redguard, Lycan - Nightblade
Goliath of Hammerfell | Redguard - Dragonknight
Uri Ice-Heart the Twin | Reachman, Nord - Warden <No CP>
Movárth Piquine | Nord, Vampire - Necromancer <Tank/Support>
Kaotik Von Dae'mon | Breton half-Redguard* - Sorcerer <Healer/Support>
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Herzog Zwei the Genesis | Breton - Templar <Healer>
Cinan Tharn | Imperial, Vampire - Dragonknight <Tank>
Tyrus Septim | Imperial - Sorcerer <Lightning/Shock Damage>
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mmoRPG personal lore:Ras Kalik the Vestige, a renown Redguard Paladin and the wielder of Chrysamere; He has been blessed to save Tamriel from Molag Bal’s destructive Planemeld while reuniting the Five Companions. His further accomplishments after defeating Molag Bal, has been to stop the destruction of Morrowind, the Clockwork City, return order to the isle of Summerset and create a new king in Wrothgar and a queen in Elsywer. These events have made him a living legend and continue to lead him into new adventures throughout Tamriel, as well as into the hearts of many ladies including the Elf Queen, Aryenn. (not only Sai Sahan has a secret snowflake!) Over many years of adventurous travels, Ras Kalik had become a loner, until he re-visited his homeland of Alik'r.
Alik'r and it's cities were overrun by the undead Ra-Netu and therefore he made an allegiance with Alik'r's own Ash'abah tribe. These Ash'abah with his help, cleansed the city of Sentinel in Alik'r desert and it's surrounding areas of the undead brought to life by the Withered Hand. After rescuing Sentinel from undead, King Fahara’jad’s personal bodyguard the Goliath of Hammerfell, who was given this name by Imperials in the region; asked to assist the tribe after learning of the defeat of the Withered Hand to the Ash'abah. Kalik promised Goliath he would task him with fighting enemies on the battlefield if he so desired. Goliath being from Hammerfell, and a Redguard wields two massive swords in respect to the Ansei. Not many soldiers are able to wield double two handed weapons, but Goliath loves to get up and personal in a fight.
Jux Blackheart a master thief that was frequenting the Sisters of the Sands inn for pilfering during this time. Jux was known to infiltrate any bank vault he came across and even delved into Ayelid ruins without detection. Kalik can vividly recall the night he met the famed thief. Jux found himself rummaging thru a slightly inebriated Kalik’s pocket for too long, on a full-mooned night and because of this and the glimmer of his golden armor in the moonlight and his greed. He lost two fingertips as a lesson! But in return, he gained a new friend, as it was his first time since a child being caught...
Kaotik Von’Daemon is an outcast, and a half-caste between a Breton mother and a Redguard father. Kaotik become a pariah due to his conjuration of Daedra pets. He was taught healing magic during his childhood years by his Breton mother. His father due to Redguard customs exiled him from the desert, sending him by wagon caravan to be a soldier in the war in Cyrodiil. He happened to meet Kalik while traveling from Alik'r, during this long caravan ride the caravan he was in was ambushed in Bangkorai by a group of bandits. Kalik by chance was also traveling thru this area on his Auridon Warhorse (which was bestowed to him by his friend, Darien Gautier). During this ambush, Kalik was able to rescue five hostages from the bandits. Kaotik was the first rescued, and Ras Kalik also recruited him to be in the Ash'abah tribe. These core Ash'abah tribesmen may never be seen together in travel as they partake in their own adventures but they always know what each other is doing; as they frequent a hideout in northern Bankorai. Their hideout an old Orc castle ruin, is kept watch by Nuzhimeh and she passes messages written between them, and frequently they also enjoy her company and her bed.
The other men rescued were a Dunmer banker, a Breton monk and two Imperial soldiers. One of the Imperials claimed to be related to Abnur Tharn the Battlemage of the Imperial Elder Council (Ras Kalik's mentor in the Five Companions). Cinan Tharn is really Abnur's drunkard treasure hunting illegitimate son, that was caught smuggling artifacts out of the Ayleid ruins in Cyrodiil and the elder of the two Imperials was Tyrus Septim a retired battle-mage soldier and guard to the Tharn family. As much as Abnur Tharn hated his half-sister Euraxia, he dislikes his bas†ard son more. Tyrus now a ruffian and privateer had been paid by Abnur Tharn to watch over Cinan as much as possible. Cinan Tharn is also a master of disguise, and uses his disguises while he robs various delves and dungeons for relics to sell on the black market. Tharn also runs an illegal gambling ring...
The Dunmer captive shackled to the Imperials looked familiar to Kalik from his time in Morrowind.... and he recognized him as Tythis Andromo a House Telvanni slave-owner and banker from Vvardenfell. During a rough interrogation to Tythis, Ras Kalik learnt why the bandits accosted him. The racist Dunmer was providing slaves as soldiers for the Three Banner War. The bandits were trying to negotiate a lucrative ransom for Andromo and the Imperials.... Kalik did not need any of this gold and he could never set Tythis free as he did with the two Imperial soldiers. His past involvement with slavery and war crimes, made Kalik's blood boil. He chose not to execute Tythis, as he figured the worse punishment for this former rich and opulent slave owner, is to now be an imprisoned servant for Ras Kalik and the tribe.
Herzog Zwei the Genesis a Breton and also a prominent monk of the Cult of the Ancestor Moth, was seeking to purchase an artifact from Cinan Tharn, before their capture. This artifact being the Ayelid artifact; the sword Sinweaver. After their rescue and the exchange of gold to Cinan for the sword he decided to slip away before Ras Kalik could question who he was, and why the Ancestor Moth cult worshippers wanted that sword. Herzog was headed to Nagastani — An Ayleid ruin in eastern Cyrodiil. He had read in scrolls that the Sword would give him magical powers, if he performed an Ayleid ritual at an old shrine hidden there. Equipped with the artifact sword, he was off to start his own adventure. Ras Kalik did indeed notice the sword however, and instead sent a letter to Jux Blackheart (whom also was interested in Ayleid treasures), to attempt to find Herzog and acquire the sword. (*Azani Blackheart in Elder Scroll's Oblivion is Jux's descendant some 747 years later)
And so the Redguard, Imperial and Breton men have parted ways for now... While Ras Kalik is off to Elsweyr to encounter the latest threat to Tamriel, with Abnur Tharn and Sai Sahan - - DRAGONS!! Little does Kalik know a few people are awaiting him in Senchal besides Sai. A necromancer survived his attack on the Withered Hand, while in Alik'r. The one known as Auriek Siet'ka is also following him to the land of the Khajiits and Cacique the Sage of Ius a Shaman mystic who has become attuned spiritually with Tu'whacca (a Redguard God) and Ius (the Animal God), after being burned severely by the escaped dragons, is awaiting his arrival also.
The journey to Senchal will also put him on a path to meet a strange man which was infected with an untreated Peyrite disease and also was the exiled from the Order of the New Moon cult, due to his sickness. He originally joined the cult to worship Laatvulon, the green dragon, mistakenly thinking it was the Daedric prince Peyrite. This confused and suffering cultist is only known as "the member C-4", as he gave up his born name when joining the cult. Cee Fôr is on a path to spread the disease as he was infected in Orccrest while recruiting members there. Can Ras Kalik and the shaman Cacique cure this poor soul, only time will tell. Little does Cee For know, the infection is tied to Vampirism, but eventually the need for blood, will take over.
Movárth Piquine - a former vampire hunter (now infected) within the Fighter's Guild (and a secretive necromancer) was in Skyrim working with the Morthaal Guard. On a patrol mission he was caught in the Frewien's ice curse outside of Morthaal with the frozen undead. Movárth's vampiric infection kept him from becoming an undead minion to the curse. He was able to use necromantic ice-magic to encase himself safely until he was freed with Freiwen, when the Vestige Ras Kalik broke the curse.
Bates Vesuius of Dawnstar - grandfather of Silus Vesuius.
Uri Ice-Heart - twin of Urfon Ice-Heart. Twin sons of Atli and Oljourn Ice-Heart that are originally from Markarth but are now residing on the Jerall Mountain range near Cyrodiil, their younger sister Araki has also relocated but she is in Windhelm currently. The twins joined the Reachmen while living in Markarth. Urfon pushed east to Hammerfell with the Winterborn Clan, leaving his family behind. Uri sent his parents and sister to live in the family cabin for safety to avoid the Vampire plague infiltrating the Reach. (but he doesn't know his sister has moved on to Windhelm to join the Fighter's guild). After hearing of Urfon's death... Uri left the Reach and is seeking vengeance. -
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Then remove the multiplier in the Tel'var stone collection? Because anything below 2x/3x is really tiny and barely worth farming for. So in that sense, anyone who isn't a very patient farmer may very well end up switching to PvP for better odds. I mean, that is the ideal scenario people want to see, no?starkerealm wrote: »Okay, first, if that were implemented, it would let someone farm Tel Var without risk. Just turn of PvP, go in, and harvest to your heart's content. So, that's a hard no.
Not really.
A 1x multiplier isn't worth it in the IC now, because there's a serious risk of losing your Tel Var. So, why wait and grind up to 1k for the multiplier, instead start at 1k, and grind up to 2k in half the time, at which point, if you die to another player, you lose nothing.
That's fine.
However, even on a 1x multiplier, people would preferentially grind on that for four times as long, without the risk of a serious death penalty. Grinding on a 1x isn't worth it now because of the risk/reward mechanics in place. Take away those risks, and there's no reason not to simply take longer to get to the same point.
And, no, the threat of death to the NPCs is basically non-existent to an experienced farmer.
At best, this would make the IC boring to farm. And, you can always trust players to take the boring but lucrative route over the risky one every time.
Make it so it's only Campaign related, or if you switch to PvE in the Sewers, you're phased in to a PvE phase and can only see other PvE players?starkerealm wrote: »It gets better, because you could flag yourself as PvE only, go around, find players in trouble, flip your flag, kill them, collect their Tel Var, then flip your flag back to PvE. So, that'd be all kinds of messed up. Keep in mind, on PC, even if it's buried in a menu, it could probably be achieved with a slash command or an addon.
If it's phased, that's going to cause all kinds of other issues, including desynced groups. (Remember, that is still an issue.) At best, you're asking for a unique PvE only IC campaign... which actually loops back to a different issue:
The Imperial City is not designed to be an interesting PvE environment. It's a densely populated, PvP zone, where you can carve through PvE mobs on your way around. From a PvE standpoint, there's not much there, like Cyrodiil as a whole.
The only reason to go to the IC on a regular basis is farming Tel Var. Give players a way to do that, no matter how mindnumbing and tedious, and the farmers would flock to that. The problem is, they're a necessary part of the PvP ecosystem in the IC. So, when you give them an option to farm without risk, you also create a situation where the IC won't have people there to PvP against.
What i said in the first paragraph.starkerealm wrote: »If you restricted it to only in the sewer bases, we're back to people simply farming Tel Var, completely devaluing that currency.
You said nothing about the Currency being devalued. What you suggested is that it's not worth it to farm at a 1x multiplier currently. This is true. However, we're talking about a hypothetical situation where you could farm Tel Var without risk. At that point, the multiplier becomes irrelevant. Someone will farm at a significant penalty rather than put themselves at risk of dying to another player.
To you, maybe. To someone else though...starkerealm wrote: »So, no, not a good idea.
I'm talking about a design perspective and player behavior. I understand it's something you want, and your willingness to toss the Tel Var multiplier under the bus as an opening suggestion kinda illustrates how little it means in contrast to the option of farming the stuff without risk.
And, again, the PvE mobs in there (ignoring the sweepers) are pretty non-threatening. Even the sweepers can be reliably downed with a small cadre of three to four competent players.Co-Host of The Tenets: a podcast focused on bringing new players up to speed in ESO. -
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