Should i just shelf my Nightblade for Elsweyr?

rynth

As a general rule thumb you should never shelve a nightblade. But, instead delete it and erase all memory from your brain of the nightblade and we will never talk about it again

ryzen_gamer_gal

frankly, in solo play i prefer stamplar to stamblade for dual wield. I couldnt find anything stamblade did better than stamplar in solo play. And that's before the nerfs hit the class.

TequilaFire

ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »

frankly, in solo play i prefer stamplar to stamblade for dual wield. I couldnt find anything stamblade did better than stamplar in solo play. And that's before the nerfs hit the class.

I play both stamplar and stamblade dual wield as well but I do find the stamblade has an advantage in mobility.

WeerW3ir

if an elf. then you can say ELF ON A SHELF!

MLGProPlayer

Yes, as long as you aren't shelving it for a magicka warden, but they're already on everyone's shelves.

StormeReigns

Nyladreas wrote: »

shelving my Nightblade

Smart choice.


NB didn't get hit hard enough with these recent nerfs

JK. Play what you like. If NB is your flavor of boat, then motor up and enjoy what you enjoy.

SidraWillowsky

Jaraal wrote: »

SidraWillowsky wrote: »

And yeah, I realize that I can adapt and play whatever style I want, but to me it's more the fact that they're making these changes solely with PvP in mind with what seems to be zero regard for the effect on PvE.

Come, make a Bosmer Nightblade with me, and together we can detect PvE enemies that can't be bothered to hide. But at least we won't be hurt by the loss of our burst heal, because enemies will be too busy laughing at us as we tumble along the road to be doing any damage to us.

Oh yeah that's the other thing- I ONLY play Bosmer. Thus far the stealth detection perk has come in handy exactly zero times.

shimm

SidraWillowsky wrote: »

Oh yeah that's the other thing- I ONLY play Bosmer. Thus far the stealth detection perk has come in handy exactly zero times.

Yup, bosmers got the worst racial nerf for sure... the stealth detection and roll dodge penetration are quite frankly bizarre and never should have made it to the PTS let alone actually make it into a patch. Literally anything else would have been better.

wishlist14

My main is NB. Just make 2 of every class even if you just level them a bit here and a bit there, before you know it you will have a whole bunch of mag/stam classes to choose from. It's like this in every rpgmmo so im surprised so many players only have 1 or 2 characters.

Im only saying this to help because it helped me 😊😊😊😊

Eldar_Ftw

Shantu wrote: »

I don't plan on shelving either of my NB's (1 stam, 1 mag). However, I do wish ZOS would stop nerfing the crap out of things because of PVP.

Considering they were ahead of the pack in pve as well, it's just not cause of pvp, so don't try and use that sorry of an excuse.

ryzen_gamer_gal

yeah. f.dc. my stamplar are khajiit and my stamblades are woody elves. and ofc the only active dual blade skill i use on my stamplar is the bouncy knife thingy. love that in public dungeons esp.

ryzen_gamer_gal

SkerKro wrote: »

Nyladreas wrote: »

shelving my Nightblade

Smart choice.


NB didn't get hit hard enough with these recent nerfs

JK. Play what you like. If NB is your flavor of boat, then motor up and enjoy what you enjoy.

clearly... the bones are still in tact. they shoulda been powdered ash

alanmatillab16_ESO

Eldar_Ftw wrote: »

Shantu wrote: »

I don't plan on shelving either of my NB's (1 stam, 1 mag). However, I do wish ZOS would stop nerfing the crap out of things because of PVP.

Considering they were ahead of the pack in pve as well, it's just not cause of pvp, so don't try and use that sorry of an excuse.

Yeah because ZOS listened to all those instance bosses complaining about NBs being OP right?

Nyladreas

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »

I too only have one character now OP.

And yes, he's a StamBlade.

I will just adapt.

That's part of the fun anyway.

Ah, you will lose that mentality when they continue the nerf train and you run out of viable options for a while.

Yeah that's what I'm sort of afraid of since everyone keeps slapping it into my face all the time.

I'd love to adapt before doing anything else, people tend to make you feel bad though.

ArchMikem

I know this is an MMO but who the Hell cares about other people. You play what you want to play. My main will ALWAYS be a PvE Stamblade.

thankyourat

Thogard wrote: »

I’m maining stamblade next patch. People that say stamblade is nerfed are the bad players who zerg surf and can’t handle outnumbered combat. If you play stamblade because every other class is too difficult, then yes it’s a nerf. If you are looking to grow as a player then it’s a buff.

I'm curious as to what kind of stamblade you will build? Stamblades seem non threatening next patch due to the loss of fracture, minor berserk and defile. That's a 16% damage loss and a ton of pressure lost due to losing defile I'm not seeing where a stamblades killing potential will come from. It seems like stamblade will be overly reliant on the bow proc. It will also have a impossible time killing tanky targets without defile and no way to layer damage into one GCD. Dbos into the assassin's scourge maybe effective at killing softer targets though.

Thogard

Royalthought wrote: »

Thogard wrote: »

I’m maining stamblade next patch. People that say stamblade is nerfed are the bad players who zerg surf and can’t handle outnumbered combat. If you play stamblade because every other class is too difficult, then yes it’s a nerf. If you are looking to grow as a player then it’s a buff.

This is funny.

"People that say stamblade is nerfed are the bad players who zerg surf and can’t handle outnumbered combat"

Nightblade is appealing because of its effectiveness when solo. Its kit is mostly single target and solo oriented. If any class was designed to be a lone wolf, this is it.

This patch nerfed that while aoe/group skills got buffed. DBoS, P.extraction, mark, ambush, etc.

But hey, sometimes that inner "nerd" comes out. You jump online and make generalizations to fuel your belief.

If you’re dueling or 1vX then stamblade got buffed.

Only the Xv1 stamblades got nerfed.

LeagueTroll

Deathlord92 wrote: »

I’m salty about the nerfs and yes I have rage all over the forums because these nerfs suck but stamblade will still be good in the right hands in Elsweyr but our biggest problem will be fighting tanky builds especially and mainly in my opinion tanky stamina dks with 40k resistances with dots and defile this will be our problem 👍

Defile?

RavenSworn

Vildebill wrote: »

If you're a person that quit because of what other people write, then shelf it. Don't be that person!

Dude that pic is awesome. Gonna save it.

Morgul667

No need to shelf it

pod88kk

Yeah do, in actual fact why not leave the game altogether!?!

The way some people completely over react to "nerfs" is ridiculous.

Royalthought

Thogard wrote: »

Royalthought wrote: »

Thogard wrote: »

I’m maining stamblade next patch. People that say stamblade is nerfed are the bad players who zerg surf and can’t handle outnumbered combat. If you play stamblade because every other class is too difficult, then yes it’s a nerf. If you are looking to grow as a player then it’s a buff.

This is funny.

"People that say stamblade is nerfed are the bad players who zerg surf and can’t handle outnumbered combat"

Nightblade is appealing because of its effectiveness when solo. Its kit is mostly single target and solo oriented. If any class was designed to be a lone wolf, this is it.

This patch nerfed that while aoe/group skills got buffed. DBoS, P.extraction, mark, ambush, etc.

But hey, sometimes that inner "nerd" comes out. You jump online and make generalizations to fuel your belief.

If you’re dueling or 1vX then stamblade got buffed.

Only the Xv1 stamblades got nerfed.

Yeah, suprise attack losing major fracture.. huge 1vX buff. Tiny penetration when attacking from behind/sides? 1vXers dream.

Now nbs can spam mark target. Clearly thats not something zerg surfers will do.

And major defile was never useful in duels. Plus with the loss of minor beserk thatll allow them to last even longer.

And lets not forget ambush now buffs damage for other people too.

Yea, these are "only" nerfs to zergblades. Your generalizations are spot on...

Sanguinor2

alanmatillab16_ESO wrote: »

Yeah because ZOS listened to all those instance bosses complaining about NBs being OP right?

Im sure there hasnt been People complaining About having to stack nightblades for close to 2 years and not being able to Play their mains if they want to be competitive
And there surely cant have been other classes wanting to be on par with nightblade in Terms of pve dps *shrug*

killahsin

all zenimax is capable of doing is nerfing things and making all classes homogeneous. I love this game but the combat mechanics and balance philosophy and direction they have been heading in since its inception is laughable. For pvp at least. And as someone said in another thread, just grab a bow if you want to pve endgame. This game went from being a sustain pvpers dream to dancing around poles and towers in circles over and over. Soon all classes will be identical and different in name, animations, and particle shaders only. They say theres a rush of players leaving wow to try this out, wait till they find out the dev team here is working as hard as they possible can to recreate the pvp mechanics of wow in this game. All about hiding behind pillars and running in circles.

TequilaFire

Sanguinor2 wrote: »

alanmatillab16_ESO wrote: »

Yeah because ZOS listened to all those instance bosses complaining about NBs being OP right?

Im sure there hasnt been People complaining About having to stack nightblades for close to 2 years and not being able to Play their mains if they want to be competitive
And there surely cant have been other classes wanting to be on par with nightblade in Terms of pve dps *shrug*

And I am sure sorcs were already there but jealous they had competition.

srfrogg23

Nyladreas wrote: »

Given the constant hate and cries towards upcoming decisions i get to read about in Zone/Guild chat and here on the forums recently, as well as occasional hate tells telling me they can't wait for the next patch, should I prepare for shelving my Nightblade and just focus on another class? Which class is currently doing well and is fun to play as a main character focused on stamina? Both PvE and PvP (And yes I only really play one character.)

Yes. If Nightblades aren't the best by at least 5%, then they are useless, the worst, and completely unplayable. Give up now. The end is nigh. No one will ever want your Nightblade ever again in any content ever.

Or, you can ignore the idiots that spew that BS and just play your character...

Sanguinor2

TequilaFire wrote: »

And I am sure sorcs were already there but jealous they had competition.

No one was at the same Level as nightblade until recently, murkmire broke the magblade dominance on mag side of pve dps and stamblade is still reigning surpreme but will get taken over by stamcro and perhaps other stam classes too.
Sorcs only role was to place a conduit on the tank and give the magblades 6% extra crit, so they "werent already there" as you put it.

oddbasket

Still playing my stam NB main, it's the only one I bother to do other chapters and dlc zones on, even if it's not always the most fun class to play. Nerfs don't bother me, since I only explore and do quests, only the skills on the bar change.

I rotate my other characters to play dungeons and event quests for fun.

TequilaFire

Sanguinor2 wrote: »

TequilaFire wrote: »

And I am sure sorcs were already there but jealous they had competition.

No one was at the same Level as nightblade until recently, murkmire broke the magblade dominance on mag side of pve dps and stamblade is still reigning surpreme but will get taken over by stamcro and perhaps other stam classes too.
Sorcs only role was to place a conduit on the tank and give the magblades 6% extra crit, so they "werent already there" as you put it.

This is a matter of your opinion because there are plenty good sorcs out there that can even solo group content.

Sanguinor2

TequilaFire wrote: »

This is a matter of your opinion because there are plenty good sorcs out there that can even solo group content.

Its not. If we are Talking score pushing in pve then no one was on the Level of nightblade dps until recently. This is a fact. In Parses until murkmire magblade dominated mag and stamblade dominated stam. Strange too that hodor is stacking only nightblades if sorcs are supposed to be that strong guess they dont know the meta

Obviously every class can clear every Content if the Player is skilled enough but the fact remains that nightblade has been the better dps if the nightblade Player and whatever class you want were on the same skill Level.

Edit: Soloing Group Content is not a good bench mark. I can solo Group Content on a dual wield 2h stamsorc, this doesnt make said dual wield 2h stamsorc a good dps build.