Attach loot boxes to RotW

MajBludd

By attaching the loot boxes to Rewards of the Worthy, it will take the questers out of the towns and put them into actual pvp.

They can repair doors, walls, siege, or jump off the wall and fight to get the rewards. They'll be contributing to their factions and helping with overall pvp objectives.

It will give them a better experience in my opinion and it will end the farming at the towns.

MattT1988

Honestly I’d rather they did this then attach them to the town quests.

zaria

Agree, its an much better system, it would however be an nerf but saying you also get them for taking keeps and the 3 resources would balance thing a bit.

Keep the town quest but have options.

StormChaser3000

Good idea. This will help to really learn PvP and grind AP at the same time as well.

FierceSam

Make it so

MikaHR

No, ROTW are virtually endless.

You havent thought this through much.

Not to mention "ROTW PvDoor trains" that would form to flip maps back and forth 24/7.

Jolipinator

That's how Midyear Mayhem works. Different event, different system.

MikaHR

Well, i guess they could say "you get event box with first 5 ROTW/day/account"

FierceSam

I got a bunch of boxes (>20) for doing absolutely NO PvP. Albeit in a PvP zone

That has to be wrong

There has to be a better way to encourage PvE players to dive into PvP and to encourage PvP players to help them.

JamilaRaj

And they should add opening timer to these boxes, like they have in mobile ES.

MajBludd

@MikaHR I did think of the RotW drop rates. They could absolutely make it every 3 or 5 boxes. That's reasonable

Merlight

MikaHR wrote: »

No, ROTW are virtually endless.

You havent thought this through much.

Not to mention "ROTW PvDoor trains" that would form to flip maps back and forth 24/7.

Scouting board quests are endless. Capture stuff quests as well, as long as other factions recapture the stuff.
But there's already a limit in place (dunno if per-character or per-account) on how many event boxes you can earn each day.

Prof_Bawbag

MikaHR wrote: »

No, ROTW are virtually endless.

You havent thought this through much.

Not to mention "ROTW PvDoor trains" that would form to flip maps back and forth 24/7.

Nah, there's a cap on the boxes you can earn per character, per day. So your endless comment isn't relevant.

Mr_Walker

Good idea. I love both sieging and defending keeps. Win or lose I always find it fun.

Lady_Sleepless

They should have also attached reward boxes to Rivyn's reward mails for Battlegrounds. Playing 5, winning 3 and 1000points each give 1 box, that's not even worth the effort. They could have kept the BG players busy and the Cyrodiil players busy with these few changes.

Salvas_Aren

MikaHR wrote: »

No, ROTW are virtually endless.

You havent thought this through much.

Not to mention "ROTW PvDoor trains" that would form to flip maps back and forth 24/7.

MikaHR wrote: »

Well, i guess they could say "you get event box with first 5 ROTW/day/account"

Both bad ideas. You can do some dailies for the crates up to 50 times per char. So limiting it to such a small number, on top of that per account, would make them unnecessarily rare. Limit them to 50 or 100 per day and let RotW count along the other options.

AlnilamE

MikaHR wrote: »

No, ROTW are virtually endless.

You havent thought this through much.

Not to mention "ROTW PvDoor trains" that would form to flip maps back and forth 24/7.

Right now, if i had the time, I could be earning reward boxes all day long, at a much faster rate than i can get RotW

Osteos

The rewards are fine as they are. Its the people entering Cyrodiil for those rewards that need to adapt.

MajBludd

@Osteos ,It's not about adapting so much as getting the pver'so to actually pvp, instead of just fetch quests in cyro.
Even if they just repair walls and doors at least they are contributing to their faction and might actually decide to come back after the event.

Osteos

I honestly do not think it would help. Based on a lot of recent threads they don't want to pvp or help their faction. They just want the loot. During double AP events they just go to the extra campaigns and trade keeps. If you limited it to just the kill players quests they would probably just find a secluded spot in Cyrodiil to kill each other to fill the quests. All you will accomplish is limiting how pvp players can earn boxes.

Wing

agreed, much better idea

Mayrael

Hahah great idea And suddenly whining about being killed while doing event quests would stop and PvErs would agree together that it's better do do some ez quests than actually PvP

barney2525

FierceSam wrote: »

I got a bunch of boxes (>20) for doing absolutely NO PvP. Albeit in a PvP zone

That has to be wrong

There has to be a better way to encourage PvE players to dive into PvP and to encourage PvP players to help them.

Just curious. Why is there a Need to "encourage" PVE players into PvP?

Shouldn't the game be for each individual person's enjoyment? And therefore the PVE player who is hesitant will get to PvP in their own good time - IF they really want to.

Why is it so hard to understand that there are players who really just enjoy PVE?

MajBludd

@barney2525 some but some are open to trying new things and not just playing part of the game. So, this is a good way to get them to check it out.

I'm not big on pve, it's repetitive and boring to me. Pvp is never the same. Players don't have mechanics you can follow and time to avoid. The events exposed me to more pve and it's tolerable but not my thing.

If you have tried pvp and it's not your thing, that's ok. If you've never given it a real try, then why not try it?

VvardeFellow

No. Don't make us do any pvp for anything, ever. And don't say "no one forced you to...", it's simply not true. Making people, normal people, go to pvp fairy land to get pretty boxes IS forcing.

MikaHR

Prof_Bawbag wrote: »

MikaHR wrote: »

No, ROTW are virtually endless.

You havent thought this through much.

Not to mention "ROTW PvDoor trains" that would form to flip maps back and forth 24/7.

Nah, there's a cap on the boxes you can earn per character, per day. So your endless comment isn't relevant.

Nah, theres a cap on number of DAILIES that you can do. ROTWs are NOT dailies.

MajBludd

@Osteos unfortunately, I can see this happening. If there is a lazy way people will find it.
As I told a friend, if we get 5% of those pvers to come back, then we have 5% more pvpers. Any increase to the pvp pop is a win, in my opinion.

MikaHR

AlnilamE wrote: »

MikaHR wrote: »

No, ROTW are virtually endless.

You havent thought this through much.

Not to mention "ROTW PvDoor trains" that would form to flip maps back and forth 24/7.

Right now, if i had the time, I could be earning reward boxes all day long, at a much faster rate than i can get RotW

And eventually you would reach a cap. Theres a reason they attached rewards to dailies. And im somewhat on board with that. BUT...the method of rewarding "UBER BOX" for first few event activities that has a very high chanc od dropping best stuff (like Jester's festival) is even better IMO.

MajBludd

@VvardeFellow what is your definition of "normal people"? Not following you.

You seem averse to pvp, why is that? Tell me an experience you had that made pvp horrible for you?
Curious because so many say pvp is toxic, pve is toxic. I'd say both equally.

Feanor

News Flash: It’s not about PvP, real or no. The people who are complaining are not interested in PvP. What they are interested in is getting reward boxes for the least possible effort. And that’s what they are actually upset about: That someone interferes with an easy way of getting rewards. Their rewards. It’s the same type of player that finds it perfectly acceptable to port into nFG I to exploit the group finder as long as they get another easy reward box.

So, no matter what you do, the complaints will stay. Unless you grant the boxes upon login.

MikaHR

Wrong, im all for porting to FG1 and dont have a single complaint about this event.