EXTREME Stamina Sorc CONCERN

Typical_T_ReX

I am severely concerned by the lack of stamina options with this being the pass on active skills. I know there will be another update for passives, but literally nothing is changing about our active abilities? It was even mentioned how good it feels by a ZOS developer on stream to have stamina morphs available AND YET... HERE WE ARE with hurricane. One skill.

Please address this, are the stamina sorcerer's really going to remain a faceless weapon skill spamming shell of a class only backed by passives and magicka abilities?

Disclaimer: I am not claiming stam sorc is weak, bad, or even not fun. Stam sorc is simply feels empty. This is not a direct comparison to any other class. The thesis of this topic is to draw attention to the fact stamina sorcerer has seen zero skill changes in the active skill patch. In other words, what we see is what we get. Air atro, daedric weapon, crystal punch, something, anything, I literally don't care if it's so bad I don't use it. Just acknowledge stam sorc exists, please.

gobestar

this guy knows what he's talking about

woe

Stamsorc parses right now are using atro with curse lol

Morgul667

Yeah it s sad how little zos seem to spend time on stamsorc

Praeficere

You are right, even if all Stam DPS plays the same, Stam Sorc feels a little less unique than the others. Although for open world PvP Stam Sorc has a good playstyle even without unique damage skills.

VaranisArano

I'd be careful what you wish for. Sometimes when ZOS takes notice of a class, its for nerfs.

I do love my stam sorcs, and we could use more than Hurricane, Bound Armaments, Crit Surge, and Dark Deal.

Burtan

I agree that stamsorc is not weak right now but I do feel like it is no longer fun and lacks any real variety, mechanics or class identity. Overload third bar may have been overpowered in the eyes of many players but when it was taken away they also took away stamsorcs only real interesting and unique mechanic without giving anything in return.

Stamsorc really needs some love right now. Not buffs, not nerfs, just more fun.

CurvedSwords123

If we get ignored when the passives are being changed, I may lose interest in ESO. Not whining, just been waiting for years for some attention and it's getting old.

Siohwenoeht

deflorate wrote: »

Stamsorc parses right now are using atro with curse lol

It's the closest to a hybrid that's not a hybrid lol. I have curse and today switched to power surge instead just to up the damage a little more. I don't need the heal from crit surge so it worked out but stamsorcs have to be creative to be effective sometimes.

Trinity_Is_My_Name

Agree. We need Stamina morphs for every Ability for all classes. So many Magicka morphs but not Stamina limits creativity and build diversity.

Heck, even the new Necromancer only has 5 (If I remember correctly) Stamina morphs. What is up with all the Magicka only morphs??

Zavijah

Respectfully, if they have moved on to passives - they aren't going to double back to Stam Sorc active abilities so make the call now on what you want to do.

Crixus8000

I agree. But even our passives are lacking. We have only 8 useable passives, but one of them requires us to waste a skill on both bars and 3 of our passives don't really benefit us much (persistence, expert mage and capacitor) but getting some actually useable skills in our class could fix this. Crystal stam morph would allow us to use blood magic and a stam atro would make all those passives in that tree actually usable for us.

I loved stamsorc because it was a fast aggressive class but since they gutted speed it just feels so much weaker to how it used to be. I wish streak/bol would actually move over terrain better and activate a little faster because as stamsorcs only defensive skill it usually gets me killed more often that it saves me. The bol morph should also absorb all projectiles because it's quite frustrating using it and then getting hit with snipe spam and draining shot and dying right away.

Vapirko

I still maintain that the bound armaments change was one of the worst changes to any skill ever. Being forced to slot a skill solely for the passive recovery and it having no real use whatsoever on a class that is already suffering from lack of space and had overload bar taken alway.

rafaelcsmaia

@ZOS_GinaBruno please some attention, forget nbs and necros for just one week

Tasear

Vapirko wrote: »

I still maintain that the bound armaments change was one of the worst changes to any skill ever. Being forced to slot a skill solely for the passive recovery and it having no real use whatsoever on a class that is already suffering from lack of space and had overload bar taken alway.

What if it was bound weapons like shield, staff, sword?

DuckInRealLife

Hybrid builds would be more viable if they took away physical damage and magical damage stats and just had a straight damage stat with magicka and stamina morphs. I mean that would potentially break things but allows attributes to be attributes. Cause at the moment it just feels like you pick one or the other which sucks.

cpuScientist

DuckInRealLife wrote: »

Hybrid builds would be more viable if they took away physical damage and magical damage stats and just had a straight damage stat with magicka and stamina morphs. I mean that would potentially break things but allows attributes to be attributes. Cause at the moment it just feels like you pick one or the other which sucks.

I guess yeah it just scaled with your higher stat, but only for class skills or something. But that would kind of make it so there is one 1 bis per class, and not 2 different types of class. i think maybe thats why they dont do that I dunno...

But yeah I want just to have some reason to look forward to stamSorc, it is the simplest thing, and I unfortunately played it alot and got invested something to freshen the class up. Air overload, melee frag air atro these little things and boom bam. Mag doth not use overload anyway lol like at ALLLLLLLL. I just want the off morph anyway. So silly at this point tbh

Alucardo

Honestly, I think ZOS's direction with stamina sorc is quite obvious at this point. They want the stam sorc to be about raw power, coming from their passives.
But they gimp it by making them slot crap like bound armaments and daedric skills on their bars. I believe these passives should be merged into the sorc trees, and apply when you have ANY sorc ability slotted. Because let's be real, there isn't much to choose from as a stam sorc.
So I'm fine by using weapon skills and being backed by passives, if they actually made it so I didn't have to slot abilities for passives.

Thraben

Trinity_Is_My_Name wrote: »

Agree. We need Stamina morphs for every Ability for all classes. So many Magicka morphs but not Stamina limits creativity and build diversity.

Heck, even the new Necromancer only has 5 (If I remember correctly) Stamina morphs. What is up with all the Magicka only morphs??

They are more. Some Necromancer magicka skills are Stam skills in disguise, like Graveyard, or the "healing" tether that absorbs stamina. In PvP raid setup, you might very well slot only 1 or 2 weapons skills at all. They did it right there, and it hurts us StamSorcs to see that it is possible if the Devs would care.

Typical_T_ReX

Tasear wrote: »

Vapirko wrote: »

I still maintain that the bound armaments change was one of the worst changes to any skill ever. Being forced to slot a skill solely for the passive recovery and it having no real use whatsoever on a class that is already suffering from lack of space and had overload bar taken alway.

What if it was bound weapons like shield, staff, sword?

Literally anything would be better than the way it is now.