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Elsweyr Preview: Find a Guild!
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Ever since ZOS rollout out the guild traders, I have been wanting an easy in-game way to search for and join guilds in ESO. Thankfully, my wait is over. Elsweyr includes this brand new feature and I was able to test this, along with Casual Ranger and Miss Bizz. Keep in mind that any, or all, of this can change before we see it again.
Link to video from Miss Bizz https://youtube.com/watch?v=fu22fYaTiFw
Link to video from Shimmer https://youtu.be/Z7DThvnIuGM
For a person searching for a guild, I wanted Find a Guild to have some basic functionality. The most important thing for guild searching was a feature that would let me easily filter out guilds that were not interesting, and ZOS has provided this in ample supply with the new update. With the new tool, every guild will have a primary and secondary focus, selected guild activities, and a play style. Each of these can be used to build a search that will narrow down the list of guilds.
Focus
In the version of the Find a Guild that I was able to play with, each guild could have a primary and secondary focus from a short list of possible values. These values cover a wide range of play styles, and with both a primary and secondary, guilds can easily be multipurpose. These might change before launch, but here is the list as it was when I saw it.
For a guild to have a valid listing, they must identify a primary and secondary focus from this list.
Additional Activities
Guild can also list additional activities, which extends the focus considerably and allows guilds to be even more multipurpose and attract players with specific interests. Each of these was presented as optional checkboxes, where any number could be checked. The list might change before launch.
With just these things, focus and activities, I figure that it should be quite easy to narrow down the list of guilds to a manageable level, but ZOS has added quite a few other traits that guilds can use to separate themselves from the others.
Language
ZOS has added the ability to further restrict guild searching to a single language. Naturally, this list consists of the officialy supported languages, English, Franch, German, and Japanese. For other languages, or multiple languages, they also offer Other. As with the Activities and Focus, the guild must pick a language to be the primary language.
Playstyle
Each guild must also decide what type of play style they want to have. There are three to choose from.
Role
Guilds can also define specific roles in their guild listing. The roles are the standard Tank, DPS, and Healing. They must define at least one, but can select any or all of them. This will be very handy in cases where a guild needs to fill a specific role or balance out the guild roster. If this is not necessary, I guess they would just pick all three of them.
Core Hours
The guild listing was able to specify the core hours that they are active. This defaults to all day, with a start time and and end time of midnight.
Champion Points
The guild listing was able to specify a minimum Champion Point value for prospective recruits.
Description
Guild listings have a recruitment headline and guild description.
Find a Guild
In the early version of Elsweyr that we were shown, the Find a Guild tool was located in the guild pulldown on the main guild page. To a player, this would look similar to the following mockup. Parts added with PhotoShop are in red.
In addition to the filters above, the player can search according to some additional criteria. The first one I noticed was how many active players are in the guild. This turned out to be the number of active guild members over the last 30 days. Another interesting search criteria was whether the guild had hired a guild trader that week.
Once a guild is located, the player can apply to join the guild. This action includes the ability to add some text that the guild recruiter can read. Sending the request immediately notifies the guild members assigned to handle applications using a notification.
Managing Applications
ZOS added a few cool features to the guild master's tools. The guild master does not have to do it all, though. A new permission was added to allow an officer to be assigned to the management of guild applications.
Once a guild listing is created, it can be copied and pasted to chat as a link. When the link is clicked on in chat, the guild listing will open for that guild, making zone recruitment much easier.
All of the applications appear in a new list that is available from the guild's dialog. Each application comes with a short description of the player applying to the guild. As of the last time I saw this, the guild could see the following information about the prospective guild member. This is subject to change.
The guild has the ability to blacklist players. When blacklisted, the players will not see the guild in Find a Guild. If they do happen to find the guild listing, and apply, the application is not sent to the guild. ZOS seemed to do a decent job hiding the blacklisted status from the target player, and the other people in the guild.
TL;DR
The new Find a Guild tool has some pretty cool features for promoting guilds, and finding guilds to join. The listing details and search functions seemed to be pretty solid should cover the vast majority of guilds and players. The key thing is that it can find guilds and aid in recruitment and joining guilds. Even if a guild has a more obscure purpose, this can be added to the description of the guild as further refinement.
Naturally, if there is some focus or activity that is not on the list, PTS is a good time to mention it.
The ability to blacklist players was something that I had not considered, but one that guild masters in the game would definitely miss, were it not available. We talked in depth with ZOS about how the blacklisting feature worked, and what issues we might see with it. In the end, I think that this will be a pretty solid part of the tool.
I really liked Find a Guild, and spent quite a bit of time with this experimenting and providing feedback on the tool. It definitely fills a void in the guild system that needed to be filled, and I am pretty sure that this will be an instant hit with both guilds and prospective guild members.
Edited by Elsonso on March 28, 2019 1:03PM Link to video from Miss Bizz https://youtube.com/watch?v=fu22fYaTiFw
Link to video from Shimmer https://youtu.be/Z7DThvnIuGM
For a person searching for a guild, I wanted Find a Guild to have some basic functionality. The most important thing for guild searching was a feature that would let me easily filter out guilds that were not interesting, and ZOS has provided this in ample supply with the new update. With the new tool, every guild will have a primary and secondary focus, selected guild activities, and a play style. Each of these can be used to build a search that will narrow down the list of guilds.
Focus
In the version of the Find a Guild that I was able to play with, each guild could have a primary and secondary focus from a short list of possible values. These values cover a wide range of play styles, and with both a primary and secondary, guilds can easily be multipurpose. These might change before launch, but here is the list as it was when I saw it.
- Trade
- Group PVE
- Roleplay
- Social
- PVP
- Questing
- Crafting
For a guild to have a valid listing, they must identify a primary and secondary focus from this list.
Additional Activities
Guild can also list additional activities, which extends the focus considerably and allows guilds to be even more multipurpose and attract players with specific interests. Each of these was presented as optional checkboxes, where any number could be checked. The list might change before launch.
- Trading
- Dungeons
- Housing
- Roleplay
- Fishing
- PVP
- Trials
- Questing
- Crafting
- Justice
With just these things, focus and activities, I figure that it should be quite easy to narrow down the list of guilds to a manageable level, but ZOS has added quite a few other traits that guilds can use to separate themselves from the others.
Language
ZOS has added the ability to further restrict guild searching to a single language. Naturally, this list consists of the officialy supported languages, English, Franch, German, and Japanese. For other languages, or multiple languages, they also offer Other. As with the Activities and Focus, the guild must pick a language to be the primary language.
Playstyle
Each guild must also decide what type of play style they want to have. There are three to choose from.
- Casual
- Balanced
- Hardcore
Role
Guilds can also define specific roles in their guild listing. The roles are the standard Tank, DPS, and Healing. They must define at least one, but can select any or all of them. This will be very handy in cases where a guild needs to fill a specific role or balance out the guild roster. If this is not necessary, I guess they would just pick all three of them.
Core Hours
The guild listing was able to specify the core hours that they are active. This defaults to all day, with a start time and and end time of midnight.
Champion Points
The guild listing was able to specify a minimum Champion Point value for prospective recruits.
Description
Guild listings have a recruitment headline and guild description.
Find a Guild
In the early version of Elsweyr that we were shown, the Find a Guild tool was located in the guild pulldown on the main guild page. To a player, this would look similar to the following mockup. Parts added with PhotoShop are in red.
In addition to the filters above, the player can search according to some additional criteria. The first one I noticed was how many active players are in the guild. This turned out to be the number of active guild members over the last 30 days. Another interesting search criteria was whether the guild had hired a guild trader that week.
Once a guild is located, the player can apply to join the guild. This action includes the ability to add some text that the guild recruiter can read. Sending the request immediately notifies the guild members assigned to handle applications using a notification.
Managing Applications
ZOS added a few cool features to the guild master's tools. The guild master does not have to do it all, though. A new permission was added to allow an officer to be assigned to the management of guild applications.
Once a guild listing is created, it can be copied and pasted to chat as a link. When the link is clicked on in chat, the guild listing will open for that guild, making zone recruitment much easier.
All of the applications appear in a new list that is available from the guild's dialog. Each application comes with a short description of the player applying to the guild. As of the last time I saw this, the guild could see the following information about the prospective guild member. This is subject to change.
- Player name
- Character name
- Character level
- Character class
- Alliance
- Achievement points
- The comment written by player when applying
The guild has the ability to blacklist players. When blacklisted, the players will not see the guild in Find a Guild. If they do happen to find the guild listing, and apply, the application is not sent to the guild. ZOS seemed to do a decent job hiding the blacklisted status from the target player, and the other people in the guild.
TL;DR
The new Find a Guild tool has some pretty cool features for promoting guilds, and finding guilds to join. The listing details and search functions seemed to be pretty solid should cover the vast majority of guilds and players. The key thing is that it can find guilds and aid in recruitment and joining guilds. Even if a guild has a more obscure purpose, this can be added to the description of the guild as further refinement.
Naturally, if there is some focus or activity that is not on the list, PTS is a good time to mention it.
The ability to blacklist players was something that I had not considered, but one that guild masters in the game would definitely miss, were it not available. We talked in depth with ZOS about how the blacklisting feature worked, and what issues we might see with it. In the end, I think that this will be a pretty solid part of the tool.
I really liked Find a Guild, and spent quite a bit of time with this experimenting and providing feedback on the tool. It definitely fills a void in the guild system that needed to be filled, and I am pretty sure that this will be an instant hit with both guilds and prospective guild members.
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Elsonso✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I hope blacklist is not permanent, because ppl can change...
That would be up to the guild, I guess. Nothing I saw made it appear that there was a timeout on the blacklisting.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I hope blacklist is not permanent, because ppl can change...
There is a cap on the blacklist, but honestly if you do something foolish enough to end up there, as I guild master I'd be unlikely to give you a second chance. I don't imagine blacklisting someone is my first action.Lone Wolf HelpFor the solo players who know, sometimes you just need a hand.PC | NA | AD-DC-EP | Discord12 -
Girl_Number8✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Most guilds now share their own blacklisted players with each other as it is. These are really a good feature for a lot of new players. As for the guilds, I am happy to see these new features and hopefully they will make to live. That way we can communicate beyond just our website and other social media.
Thnx for the info OPEdited by Girl_Number8 on March 29, 2019 9:29PM2 -
woufff✭✭✭✭Sounds great, will this help to decrease the huge amount of "join-my-fantastic-guild" adds in zone chat?
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✭Sounds great, will this help to decrease the huge amount of "join-my-fantastic-guild" adds in zone chat?
I hope it does, but will probably make it worse.
So what happens if the Guild member that gets notifications in not online?
Is it notification popups like the Group Tools, Group Ready notification, or is game mails sent?
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✭Great info! Thanks
I'd very much like to see an additional Focus category: New Players
I think this would be a super useful category for guilds like mine dedicated to assisting players new to the game.
More jokingly, I'd also love to see an additional Language option: Salty.PC NA @Ertosi♠♦ My Team ♥♣
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https://i.imgur.com/TPscgS9.jpg to see major features of the last few years compared.
https://i.imgur.com/X8qY0gP.jpg to see a detailed comparison of this year's Q1 to the last two Q1s.
https://i.imgur.com/4z71cK8.jpg to see a detailed comparison of each years' first two quarters combined.
https://i.imgur.com/jrHe5h8.jpg to see a projected comparison of the full years and what 2019's Q4 will need to catch up.
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Elsonso✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭So what happens if the Guild member that gets notifications in not online?
Is it notification popups like the Group Tools, Group Ready notification, or is game mails sent?
The application lasts for 15 days, so the next time the guild member logs into the game, they will get a notification. If they dismiss the notification without acting on it, the application is still available from the guild dialog.0 -
WyndStryke✭✭✭This all sounds really useful for guilds.
Regarding the blacklist, if the player changes their account name, does the blacklist still work correctly? (Thinking of the recent case where someone had stolen several guild banks & then changed their account name).
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✭✭Sounds incredible, really happy and excited for this! Will watch the linked videos now as well Thank you for this post lordrichter! 
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✭✭✭✭Is it guild finder or find a guild, because the latter has a horrible acronym.2 -
Elsonso✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I'd very much like to see an additional Focus category: New Players
I think this would be a super useful category for guilds like mine dedicated to assisting players new to the game.
That is probably a good suggestion, and one that a guild like Lone Wolf Help, and others, would find useful.WyndStryke wrote: »Regarding the blacklist, if the player changes their account name, does the blacklist still work correctly?
If someone changes their account name, they are still blacklisted.
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Universe✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭A feature that could have been quite useful since ESO launch.
Not a moment too soon, but it is a great addition to the game Some videos I recorded for fun: Main character:
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Intextio✭✭✭First Wrathstone, and now Elsweyr.
I am really impressed by all the QOL improvements ZOS is making to the game this year.
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gabriebe✭✭✭✭✭Sounds like a great feature, I wish they also increase the numbers of guilds you can join. It's becoming Sophie's Choice sometimes.Former Empresses: Saliva Bortschion (MagBlade), Janet From Finance (PvP MagSorc), Carla Swagan (Tank DK), Estelle Born (StamBlade), Enya Arsenal (MagPlar), Anita Nurse (Magplar Healer), Bearback Brigitte (Magden), Rachel Justice (MagDK), Nicole From Payroll (Stamden), Bailiff Belinda (PvE MagSorc), Féline Dion (StamDK), Septic Tank Tina (Necro Tank)
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✭✭✭✭✭Oh wow, that's the first I'm hearing about this. It sounds like they've actually included a robust set of features. There isn't anything that I feel is missing, which is crazy, since the current guild tools are as bare bones as it gets.0 -
VDoom1✭✭✭✭✭This is amazing!!! Before I had a guild I was like "ohh...no guild finder tool....crap." So I was kinda clueless how to join a guild. But now we are getting one, which is awesome. Very handy for new players! It also has a bit of a promotion feature which again, awesome.
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Elsonso✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Is it guild finder or find a guild, because the latter has a horrible acronym.
Find a guild is more of an action that can be performed than a name. I suspect that if you run around in zone chat talking about Find A Guild using the acronym, you are likely to be censored. 1 -
NeeScrolls✭✭✭✭Does anyone know how to put a yellow clickable GUILD link into 'zone chat' in-game? (similar to how you can already do with items) ... i just saw someone do it but they refuse to tell me how lol . Not sure if this is a new feature today w/ Elsweyr or ??
(And i've been asking around to players on my friend-list & such , but no one seems to know)
*****EDIT: of course i figured it out 50 seconds after making this post LOL ( it's just a simple 'R' key clicky at bottom of your screen when you're in the 'guild tab' ... I was looking on the new 'GUILD LISTING' ui within the new 'RECRUITMENT' tab )Edited by NeeScrolls on May 21, 2019 1:48AM0 -
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✭Wait does this mean random people are going to join my guild or spam my mailbox with "this guy would like to join"? I'll be spamming ZOS costumer service bots if this is the case I hope it's not.Master Debater0 -
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✭lordrichter wrote: »Focus
In the version of the Find a Guild that I was able to play with, each guild could have a primary and secondary focus from a short list of possible values. These values cover a wide range of play styles, and with both a primary and secondary, guilds can easily be multipurpose. These might change before launch, but here is the list as it was when I saw it.- Trade
- Group PVE
- Roleplay
- Social
- PVP
- Questing
- Crafting
For a guild to have a valid listing, they must identify a primary and secondary focus from this list.
Additional Activities
Guild can also list additional activities, which extends the focus considerably and allows guilds to be even more multipurpose and attract players with specific interests. Each of these was presented as optional checkboxes, where any number could be checked. The list might change before launch.- Trading
- Dungeons
- Housing
- Roleplay
- Fishing
- PVP
- Trials
- Questing
- Crafting
- Justice
With just these things, focus and activities, I figure that it should be quite easy to narrow down the list of guilds to a manageable level, but ZOS has added quite a few other traits that guilds can use to separate themselves from the others.
Language
ZOS has added the ability to further restrict guild searching to a single language. Naturally, this list consists of the officialy supported languages, English, Franch, German, and Japanese. For other languages, or multiple languages, they also offer Other. As with the Activities and Focus, the guild must pick a language to be the primary language.
Playstyle
Each guild must also decide what type of play style they want to have. There are three to choose from.- Casual
- Balanced
- Hardcore
Looks like we guildmasters have some work to do when we finally get logged in...0 -
NeeScrolls✭✭✭✭Smasherx74 wrote: »Wait does this mean random people are going to join my guild or spam my mailbox with "this guy would like to join"? I'll be spamming ZOS costumer service bots if this is the case I hope it's not.
No one can join unless/until you 'accept' them first. And there's like 500+ guilds within the search listings, so i highly doubt your guild will just randomly be singled out "spammed" . Either way though, it's very easy to 'report player' .
Edited by NeeScrolls on May 21, 2019 1:54AM0 -
EllieBlue✭✭✭✭Your guild will only appear in the listing if you list it yourself.Nirn Traders GM (est 2015)
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Elsonso✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Correct. Unless a guild master takes action to create a listing, the guild will not appear.0
