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Random Dungeon skipping
p_tsakirisb16_ESO
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The levels of annoyance with this ability to jump to different dungeon and screw the team left behind has hit new levels.
Why ZOS doesn't fix it for good? It should give the option at least to the leader to kick everyone from the group, without requiring vote, who is not in the same dungeon but on different one.
Had numerous times given dungeons I haven't done with some of my toons like Frostvault, and half the team without saying anything to anybody, just jump to FG1 or COH1.
And there we sit without been able to kick them out, they "Complete Activity", and quit, and the rest haven't even got the XP needing to restart a new group finder process.
Why ZOS doesn't fix it for good? It should give the option at least to the leader to kick everyone from the group, without requiring vote, who is not in the same dungeon but on different one.
Had numerous times given dungeons I haven't done with some of my toons like Frostvault, and half the team without saying anything to anybody, just jump to FG1 or COH1.
And there we sit without been able to kick them out, they "Complete Activity", and quit, and the rest haven't even got the XP needing to restart a new group finder process.
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redspecter23✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭You can initiate a vote kick and see what happens. If the vote doesn't go through, I suppose you can report them. I'm not sure if it's an actionable offense but that's up to ZOS to decide. I definitely wouldn't do the dungeon jump in any sort of a pug group as I'd find it rude to do so, but others aren't overly concerned with that. -
dazee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭They should dissalow porting to a different dungeon in random pugs. Not really an issue with premade teams but since it seems people cant respect other peoples time, they need to prevent it.Playing your character the way your character should play is all that matters. Play as well as you can but never betray the character. Doing so would make playing an mmoRPG pointless. -
LeagueTroll✭✭✭✭✭If you want to do a dlc dungeon, better your own group or do it on a pledge day. If you rather pug, you can say ‘i do 40k dps this will be easy’. When it’s a long dungeon you offered 0 assurances on your dps no one want to spend 1 hour with u. -
Artim_X✭✭✭✭✭Players who do this when the dungeon is set to normal are milk drinkers the lot of them. Tubidan the Alarmist scoffs at their weakness.
(AD) Artim X |PC/NA| Primary Guild: Storm Guides NA Casual staff wielding vampire sorcerer.
My Easygoing BuildsElectric-Stunhttps://media.giphy.com/media/hokMyu1PAKfJK/giphy.gif
Proc free DPS build for when a tank isn't holding bosses in place and for times where one is not getting buffed by a healer.
Gear: 5 Netch's Touch (All apparel Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 2 Slimecraw (All Divines. 1 med/1 heavy. Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Lightning Staff (infused/shock enchant), and Infallible Aether jewelry (arcane with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused/flame enchant).
Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Boundless Storm, Mages' Wrath, Hardened Ward (Twilight Tormentor if one can somewhat trust both the heals and tank to keep you alive), Lightning Flood, and Power Overload.
Ability-Bar 2: Dark Deal, Streak, Shock Reach, Dampen Magic (Twilight Tormentor if one can somewhat trust both the healer and tank to keep you alive), Unstable Wall of Storms, and Thunderous Rage.
Electric-Burn[url="https://media.giphy.com/media/6CovzgyTig7M4/giphy.gif[/url]
DPS build for more organized groups.
Gear: 5 Burning Spellweave (All apparel Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 2 Grothdarr (All Divines. 1 med/1 heavy. Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Inferno Staff (infused/shock enchant), and Infallible Aether jewelry (arcane with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused/flame enchant).
Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Boundless Storm, Mages' Wrath, Hardened Ward (Twilight Tormentor if one can somewhat trust both the heals and tank to keep you alive), Lightning Flood, and Power Overload.
Ability-Bar 2: Dark Deal, Streak, Flame Reach, Dampen Magic (Twilight Tormentor if one can somewhat trust both the healer and tank to keep you alive), Unstable Wall of Fire, and Fiery Rage.
Electric-Cool[url="https://media.giphy.com/media/3otPoTggaYFNd1FdAI/giphy.gif[/url]
Utility focused DPS build that is capable of tanking normal dungeons and vet non dlc dungeons, but it does not provide enough tank based buffs/debuffs to warrant it's use in trials/vet dlc dungeons and due to the limits of damage shields it would be too much of a liability due to the sheer number of potential one-shot mechanics that a pure tank would have an easier time dealing with.
Gear: 5 Icy Conjuror (All apparel Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 2 Iceheart (All Divines. 1 med/1 heavy. Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Ice Staff (infused/ice enchant), and Infallible Aether jewelry (arcane with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused/flame enchant).
Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Boundless Storm, Mages' Wrath (Elemental Drain in vet content if healer isn't using it), Hardened Ward, Lightning Flood, and Power Overload (Replenishing Barrier when healer isn't keeping others alive).
Ability-Bar 2: Dark Deal, Streak (Inner Rage when dealing with multiple bosses), Frost Reach (Restraining Prison when I want to lock enemies down), Dampen Magic, Unstable Wall of Frost, and Icy Rage (Aggressive Horn when DPS is decent).
Electric-Healhttps://media.giphy.com/media/5ibGIHneWS6ek/giphy.gif
My healer build that I for the most part only use in normal dungeons/trials or in Vet premades, since playing with randoms tend to result in me being in a group that lacks DPS, has a fake tank, or both.
Gear: 5 Spell Power Cure (All apparel Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 2 spell critical monster set pieces when I don't feel like using spell crit pots, Grothdarr when I want to do more damage, Bogdan when I want more HoTs, Symphony of Blades to provide more emergency resources, or Earthgore when I feel like it would make a significant difference (All Divines. 1 med/1 heavy. Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Lightning Staff (infused/shock enchant), and Infallible Aether jewelry (arcane with spell damage enchant)/restoration staff (infused with weapon damage enchant).
Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge (Power Surge for more heals), Boundless Storm, Combat Prayer, Ward Ally (Twilight Matriarch for another burst heal and damage), Energy Orb, and Replenishing Barrier.
Ability-Bar 2: Dark Deal, Overflowing Altar, Elemental Drain, Hardened Ward (Twilight Matriarch for another burst heal and damage), Unstable Wall of Storms, and Aggressive Horn.
Electric-Vamphttps://media.giphy.com/media/ukDQiYZzRAxMZKcK86/giphy.gif
Tanky utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players, but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (3 heavy body pieces, light waist, and medium hands. All Impenetrable. Max Mag Enchants), 2 heavy Mighty Chudan (All Impenetrable. Max Mag Enchants), and Knight Slayer jewelry (arcane with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused with oblivion enchant)/restoration staff (infused with oblivion enchant. Same enchant as lightning in order to maintain consistent pressure regardless of which staff you're heavy attacking with). [When more focused on damage will change Chudan pieces to medium and light. Also all my Torug body pieces to light except the chest that stays heavy].
Ability-Bar 1: Structured Entropy, Consuming Trap, Haunting Curse, Ward Ally, Rapid Regeneration, and Life Giver (or Soul Assault).
Ability-Bar 2: Dark Deal, Elusive Mist, Rune Cage, Hardened Ward, Efficient Purge, and Shooting Star.
Electric-Wardhttps://media.giphy.com/media/Wa0TGmtDvwW3e/giphy.gif
Damage shield tank designed to help my guildmates clear vet dungeons when a typical tank isn't available.
Gear: 5 Brands of the Imperium (All Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 2 Mother Ciannait (All Divines. 1 med/1 light. Max Mag Enchants). Combat Physician jewelry (arcane with spell damage enchant)/Ice Staff (infused/crusher). Blackrose Restoration Staff (doesn't have to be the perfect version. infused/hardening enchant).
Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Bound Aegis, Inner Rage, Boundless Storm, Ward Ally, and Replenishing Barrier.
Ability-Bar 2: Deep Thoughts, Bound Aegis, Restraining Prison (Elemental Drain in vet content if healer isn't using it), Unstable Wall of Frost, Hardened Ward, and Temporal Guard.
PvE Starter Gearhttps://media.giphy.com/media/6CovzgyTig7M4/giphy.gif
Gear: 5 Law of Julianos (heavy chest, gloves/belt light, and the rest can be light or 1 medium piece if you're not wearing medium anywhere else on your body. All in training if grinding for XP or divines), Armor of the Seducer or Magnus' Gift head, shoulder, and staves (light with 1 medium piece if you are not already wearing 1 medium Julianos piece. All in training or divines. The staves should be training or infused), and 3 purple Willpower Jewelry with Arcane trait (can be bought from trading guilds for relatively cheap. Check tamrieltradecentre.com for the best deals if you're not using a price checking addon).
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High elf, since you will not have issues with sustain, but other mag based races are also fine so this is more of a personal choice.
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PvP: The Atronach.
PvE: I will almost always use the Atronach in this content as well (especially if I'm healing in PvE or playing it safe while solo). However, in a strong group other Mundus Stones can be effective (Thief is what I would use in a serious group as a healer. As DPS I would use Shadow or Lover depending on group), since a heavy attack rotation will ensure that you're always restoring magicka at a decent rate. When using electric-ward in vet content I will always use the Lady to reach 25k+ physical/spell resistances.
Current Champion Points[url="https://media.giphy.com/media/y2RgvEEy1R5rW/giphy.gif[/url]
Mag Sorc: More focused on damage, since changing CP isn't free. Mage: Elfborn (56), Spell Erosion (22), Elemental Expert (64), Staff Expert (44), Master-at-Arms (9), and Thaumaturge (75). Warrior: Ironclad (34), Resistant (8), Light Armor Focus (12), Hardy (32), Elemental Defender (32), Thick Skinned (31), Expert Defender (33), Bastion (56), and Quick Recovery (32). Thief: Warlord (31), Sprinter (6), Bashing Focus (6), Arcanist (75), Tenacity (75), Shade (25), Tumbling (26), and Shadow Ward (26).
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Mag Sorc: (In your gameplay settings turn on quick cast ground abilities) Buff up with Boundless and Surge, weapon swap immediately after casting the previous skill, drop Rage if it's active (only drop it on significant bosses or in situations with lots of enemies where you know you'll have the ult filled up by the next boss), Reach, Unstable, quickly weapon swap, Liquid Flood, two heavy attacks, activate either Surge or Boundless, cancel the animation of the buff used with a weapon swap, and repeat. If you have an excessive amount of ult and you're dealing with trash mobs activate overload before performing the rotation, but don't heavy attack for too long. If you have enough ult for Rage while you're fighting a serious boss and you're in the middle of the rotation just focus on activating the ultimate, afterwards either continue the rotation or start from scratch. During the execute phase (around 20% health) replace the second heavy attack with about 4 Mages' Wrath, but if boss is melting quickly just keep spamming Wrath (hold heavy attack while spamming Wrath). When using Twilight Tormentor only use the active ability before a fight and at times where you aren't actively engaging the boss.
When frost staff tanking a single boss buff up with Boundless and Surge, weapon swap immediately after casting the previous skill, heavy attack with the ice staff, drop Rage if it's active, Reach/Restraining (at times can be replaced with an additional lightning staff heavy for sustain), Unstable, quickly weapon swap, Lightning Flood, one heavy attack (two if Reach isn't used), activate either Surge or Boundless, cancel the animation of the buff used with a weapon swap, one heavy attack, and repeat. If frost staff tanking multiple bosses buff up with Boundless and Surge, weapon swap immediately after casting the previous skill, heavy attack with the ice staff each enemy, drop Rage if it's active, Unstable, quickly weapon swap, Lightning Flood, heavy attack priority boss in order to proc IA (pink smoke), activate either Surge or Boundless, cancel the animation of the buff used with a weapon swap, heavy attack all the bosses, and repeat. Can also slot in Inner Rage and forego heavy attacking with the ice staff. If using inner rage after getting aggro perform the DPS oriented rotation and retake aggro after 1 rotation. Most challenging bosses to keep aggroed will be the Pact in the Blessed Crucible and the knights in the White-Gold Tower, since you need to keep 3 enemies taunted, but they can also be locked down with Restraining. During the execute phase on a single target (around 20% health) replace the second heavy attack with a partial heavy attack in order to proc IA and around 4 Mages' Wrath, but if boss is melting quickly just keep spamming Wrath (hold block while spamming Wrath).
When healing in PvE just keep all support skills and Unstable up. Heavy attack primarily with a restoration staff whenever you can. Be reactive with your heals (when someone is scratched use ward ally and top them off with some Prayers). When taking a lot of continuous damage make sure to have all buffs/debuffs up while keeping Energy Orb active in the group. At the boss use the horn ult, but only when the group has decent survivability and damage. If too many players lack survivability then use the barrier ult to make life easier (longer fight, but less risk of death). Can use barrier when dealing with trash mobs (gives back ult).
In PvP you'll rarely be in a scenario where you can perform a PvE esque rotation with AOE unless you're performing a single target burst. For the most part just stun peeps whenever possible, apply dots, and heavy attack them a few times. Rinse and repeat till they die and use ults as needed, but make sure to keep your health and shields up whenever you take significant damage (might have to keep one's distance if a dk is using a skill like draw essence). When in a high pressure situation stay on the lightning staff bar and keep hardened ward up while stunning and heavy attacking hostiles make sure to keep primary buffs up, heal up, purge, and shield stack as needed. When dealing with a large amount of enemy players alongside your faction keep your distance from friendlies (avoid bombs). If you get debuffs on you be careful not to overuse efficient purge, which is still quite costly. If not grouped up do not bother using purge on a debuffed friendly, since it will not affect them at all.
In PvE and PvP make sure to utilize tab target to keep track of priority enemies. Use streak in PvE for mag based movement that also allows you to stun a group of enemies. Use elusive mist for mag based movement, snare removal, and damage mitigation in PvP (can also be used in stealth, but will pop you out of a hidden state for a brief moment).
In PvP when solo taking a resource ride your mount towards the tower, aggro the two guards at the front of the entrance, then head on inside the tower, buff up, purge, head up the stairs, kill everyone that follows especially the mage guard, kill everyone on the flag, and flip.
Favorite Foods and Potionshttps://media.giphy.com/media/3otPoTggaYFNd1FdAI/giphy.gif
Gold Food for PvE:
(DPS) Corrupting Bloody Mara (increases Max Magicka by 4620, Max Health by 5051, and Health Recovery by 505 for 2 hours). If a vampire use font of loss furnishing to decrease vampirism to stage 1 to benefit from health recovery.
Gold Food for PvP and PvE:
(PvP healer/PvE serious tank) Clockwork Citrus Filet (increases Max Health by 3326, Health Recovery by 406 [useful if stage 1 vampire], Max Magicka by 3080, and Magicka Recovery by 338 for 2 hours).
Trash Potions when feeling cheap:
Regular CP150 Essence of Magicka pots that I obtain frequently from playing the game or Crown Tri-Restoration Potion obtained from dailies.
Crafted Potions:
Essence of Spell Critical (Bugloss, Lady's Smock, and Water Hyacinth). Without magelight this is my primary means of obtaining Major Prophecy, which increases my Spell Critical Rating. This also heals and restores magicka. Essence of Immovability (Columbine, Corn Flower, and Wormwood). I use this in PvP, since this gives me stealth detection, knockback immunity, and restores magicka (better to use it when competent allies are nearby, since it might reveal that you are surrounded by multiple players in stealth and you will not have an emergency pot available after use). Essence of Invisibility with only 2 ingredients (Blue Entoloma, Namira's Rot, Nirnroot, or Spider Egg). I use this in PvE content that requires stealth and if I need more speed I'll use Rapid Maneuver before using the potion. Essence of Invisibility with 3 ingredients (Blessed Thistle, Blue Entoloma, and Namira's Rot). Very useful in PvP alongside the vampire Dark Stalker passive, since you'll be invisible, ignore movement speed penalty while in Crouch, and you'll have a 30% movement speed boost from Major Expedition (I always have this slotted when riding from point A to B in PvP land, since gankers are always lurking). -
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✭Ok, when I want to burn a random normal out I don't wanna carry 5k dps people who need 25 soul gems to res them through easy dlc content for not even a thanks for the carry, its getting old. The faster I get it done the better.
Just port with them, get the easy dungeon done for the xp or whatever you running it for then organise a group of people from guilds or zone that actually want to run that dungeon with you.
If ZOS stop dungeon porting ill just leave the group its fine either way with me.
Ive tried helping people with tanking and dps and explaining heals should be renamed dps buff but I get told to stfu so im done with that now.Edited by Stebarnz on March 21, 2019 11:58PM -
SoLooney✭✭✭✭✭It's a random normal, 9 times out of 10, people are doing it to get the easy daily exp reward
So do you wanna struggle bus in a dlc dungeon or just get a quick clear in fungal grotto 1?
Not fun carrying dps who only pull like 5k and wasting my time and soul gems. I dont see the problem in why people port out of bad dungeons to fungal -
Tsar_Gekkou✭✭✭✭✭We just had a Wayrest 2 instance where the door glitched in the second room and we couldn't progress, so we all ported to FG1 to finish the dungeon so we wouldn't have to drop group and wait 15 minutes for nothing.Xbox NA
vAA HM | vHRC HM | vSO HM | vMoL HM | vHoF HM | vAS+2 | vCR+3 | vBRP | vSS HM | vKA HM |
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IsharaMeradin✭✭✭It is one thing to go to a different dungeon when something about the current one is not working properly. However, if I choose to do a random, I have every intention of doing the random that I actually get.
In fact, I told a guild group once that I would join them for a random but would not port to FG1. We've had one member asking specifically for randoms that will port to FG1 and I didn't want to be part of that. Turned out, we got FG1 as the actual random. Win win for all in that scenario I suppose.PC-NA / PC-EUID @IsharaMeradin**************
Characters NA
Ishara Meradin - Nord Nightblade
Vanessa Cromwell - Breton Sorcerer
Midnight Rayne - Khajit Nightblade
Verin Jenet Eshava - Dark Elf Warden (magicka)
Sasha al'Therin - Redguard Dragonknight
Latash Gra-Ushaba - Orc Templar
Nerissa Valin - Imperial Necromancer
Paula Iris Winterleaf - Wood Elf Warden (stamina)
Characters EU
Shallan Veil - Wood Elf Warden
System SpecsOperating System: Win 7 Home Premium 64 bit
Processor: OEM AMD FX-6300 3.5GHZ
Memory: 2 * GSKILL 4GB DDR3 1600 MHZ RIPJAWS-X MEMORY
Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-970A-DS3P AM3+ CROSSFIRE USB3.0 SATA 3
Graphics Card: AMD RADEON R7 250 2GB GDDR3 PCI-E 3.0
Soundcard: ONBOARD 7.1 SOUND
Internet: 360 Mbps broadband give or take -- game still plays like it did on 3 Mbps DSL -
dazee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭People defending those who leave their team hanging high and dry without trying to help first.. really? well now we know who the ones doing this are.Playing your character the way your character should play is all that matters. Play as well as you can but never betray the character. Doing so would make playing an mmoRPG pointless. -
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✭✭✭✭✭redspecter23 wrote: »You can initiate a vote kick and see what happens. If the vote doesn't go through, I suppose you can report them. I'm not sure if it's an actionable offense but that's up to ZOS to decide. I definitely wouldn't do the dungeon jump in any sort of a pug group as I'd find it rude to do so, but others aren't overly concerned with that.
It's an exploit, so, yeah, it is actionable.Co-Host of The Tenets: a podcast focused on bringing new players up to speed in ESO. -
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✭✭✭✭starkerealm wrote: »redspecter23 wrote: »You can initiate a vote kick and see what happens. If the vote doesn't go through, I suppose you can report them. I'm not sure if it's an actionable offense but that's up to ZOS to decide. I definitely wouldn't do the dungeon jump in any sort of a pug group as I'd find it rude to do so, but others aren't overly concerned with that.
It's an exploit, so, yeah, it is actionable.
Says who? I always ask if can play another dungeon when I get a dlc one. Like 96% of the time, people say no anyways, so I either say good luck right there or invariably when the team can't get past one of the bosses. The remaining 4% of the time, we either port to on of the pledges for the day or just to FG. And better time is had either way. -
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✭✭✭✭As someone who has done this when our group of three who wanted a late night, last run ‘fungeon’ found ourselves in RoM with a gung *** solo yoloer, I wish this would get fixed. Because this behaviour stinks.
The purpose of the random dungeon reward is to enable players to fill holes in their groups. It wasn’t intended to reward players for “doing the dungeon of my choice on my own”. However, its implementation is appalling.
As long as there is such a vast difference in difficulty between dungeons like FG1 and MHK, and as long as the reward for doing both is identical, you will see this exploit being used.
ZOS either don’t care about it or accept it as the price of forcing DLC dungeons on their subscribers. Or, more likely, wish it wasn’t so but lack the technical nous and/or will to do anything about it.
My stopgap solution would be to encourage those who want to do it to find three others and form their own groups. Then they can revel in the perpetual hell of FG1 on their own without bothering other players. -
Spacegato✭✭✭When I get DLC dungeons I don't mind going to a different one because a lot of people have a hard time in these and I don't have/want to spend over an hour to complete these.
I did one get Arx Corinium and a guy wanted to travel to Fungal Grotto and when we said no he just left
Normal dungeons are easy to do if you only have 5 minutes for a random and want to teleport to Fungal then don't do a pug random.
Edit: ZOS should really have 2 different random dungeons one for normal and one for DLC.Edited by Spacegato on March 22, 2019 10:32AM -
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✭✭✭✭✭They should dissalow porting to a different dungeon in random pugs. Not really an issue with premade teams but since it seems people cant respect other peoples time, they need to prevent it.
Agree, note that its pretty common to do 2 vet HM and the dlc in normal as you will not get HM on it anyway.
Its mostly an issue during double xp events as people run randoms on all their alts to power level during events
Grinding just make you go in circles.
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MikaHR✭✭✭✭✭People are actively unsubbing to avoid DLC dungeons and you wonder why people port FROM them?
Its almost as if its the DLC dungeone problem...no wait, it IS DLC dungeon problem!
If ZOS prevented ability to port from unwanted dungoens, it would be even MORE $$ lost for them, as DLC dungeons are $$ loss on their own.Edited by MikaHR on March 22, 2019 8:45AM -
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✭✭.People are actively unsubbing to avoid DLC dungeons and you wonder why people port FROM them?
Its almost as if its the DLC dungeone problem...no wait, it IS DLC dungeon problem!
If ZOS prevented ability to port from unwanted dungoens, it would be even MORE $$ lost for them, as DLC dungeons are $$ loss on their own.
DLC dungeon? Not for me, it's a time issue. Im fine with certain dungeons when I have the time to run them. When a friend asks me to run a rando for the xp, which I don't want to do, im still going to go, but im going to grab 2 more under the "Quick run ezxp" post in guild chat. I put my friends through enough hell that they want to run DLC dungeons, as long as it's the pledge as well
more efficient. Edited by D0PAMINE on March 22, 2019 1:30PM -
Cążki✭✭✭✭I just misunderstood you sry. But moore problem is that there is a bug when you complete dungeon, and the some of the part quite the group but you stay in 2/4 and you want to play again the same dungeon and find replacement . System finds replacemnet new players but not resetrs the dungeon. And in a hand of it all group must disband if want to make it again its so dumb and radiculus.Edited by Cążki on March 22, 2019 1:13PMAltmer skooma dealer.
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✭✭It's a random normal, 9 times out of 10, people are doing it to get the easy daily exp reward
So do you wanna struggle bus in a dlc dungeon or just get a quick clear in fungal grotto 1?
Not fun carrying dps who only pull like 5k and wasting my time and soul gems. I dont see the problem in why people port out of bad dungeons to fungal
It may not be a random normal for everyone. Group finder happily pairs people queued for specific dungeon and people queued for a random provided that they got same dungeon as their random choice. If someone queues for CoS, it shouldn't bother that player that the rest of the team got it as their random; they were fully aware what they're in for when they queued. If they didn't want to risk getting CoS, they shouldn't have been queueing in first place, not like they're entitled to get that XP boost. The price of reward includes the risk of getting a DLC dungeon. -
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You have to reset the dungeon, change between normal and vet and back again.I just misunderstood you sry. But moore problem is that there is a bug when you complete dungeon, and the some of the part quite the group but you stay in 2/4 and you want to play again the same dungeon and find replacement . System finds replacemnet new players but not resetrs the dungeon. And in a hand of it all group must disband if want to make it again its so dumb and radiculus.
if you queue inside the dungeon after last boss is down you will invite more people into the finished dungeon.
Grinding just make you go in circles.
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✭Doing this in a PuG without notifying the group is scummy.
Doing this in a pre-made can be very useful though.
I'd rather it not change, but the behavior of the offenders change instead.PS4-NA. Breton Templar Healer, Bosmer Stamplar, Breton Magplar, Orsimer StamDK, Dunmer MagDK, Khajiit StamNB, Dunmer MagNB, Argonian Warden Tank, Altmer Magsorc -
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The purpose of the random dungeon reward is to get players to do the random dungeons to create filler for players who want to do specific dungeons without an full team.John_Falstaff wrote: »It's a random normal, 9 times out of 10, people are doing it to get the easy daily exp reward
So do you wanna struggle bus in a dlc dungeon or just get a quick clear in fungal grotto 1?
Not fun carrying dps who only pull like 5k and wasting my time and soul gems. I dont see the problem in why people port out of bad dungeons to fungal
It may not be a random normal for everyone. Group finder happily pairs people queued for specific dungeon and people queued for a random provided that they got same dungeon as their random choice. If someone queues for CoS, it shouldn't bother that player that the rest of the team got it as their random; they were fully aware what they're in for when they queued. If they didn't want to risk getting CoS, they shouldn't have been queueing in first place, not like they're entitled to get that XP boost. The price of reward includes the risk of getting a DLC dungeon.
You notice this as its an higher chance of getting an pledge dungeon as more players do them.
Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star. -
TimeViewer✭✭✭People who do this when they've created with a 4 man aren't the ones who bother me about this, it's the ones who come in with 3 people then abandon the 1 person who was waiting for a specific dungeon, especially bad when that one is a DPS who has to wait forever in queue just for some idiots to abandon them back to queue. Had that happen too many times and it's that aspect that will ruin it for everyone
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✭✭@zaria , wasn't noticing that, actually, it may be a statistical fluke you're observing - there's probably no hard data on that, and in my own experience, I can't quite say I was getting pledge dungeon as a random more often than any other. Without knowing the details of implementation, it's impossible to say if people's choice of random dungeon is skewed towards those which are more popular / have longer specific dungeon queue spots at the moment.
It doesn't even matter whether random reward is to give company to those gunning for specific dungeons, or just to engage people into exploring more dungeons. Case in point, if someone queued for random, got landed in a dungeon, then it's a poor taste to teleport away because other group members may actually not be running a random. Both parties got what they signed up for - random choice in one case, specific dungeon in another case. If someone doesn't like the conditions or suspects randomness to not be random enough - well, the solution is to close the finder window and return to questing or farming or housing or other less risky activities.
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