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I have no words

Alucardo
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....to describe how disappointed I am right now. 117 ping in Sotha Sil, so I thought awesome, I might actually get to do some PvP tonight. BOY WAS I WRONG. People rubber banding, 2 and sometimes 3 second bar swaps, skills randomly getting greyed out so I can't cast them, choppiness that gave me motion sickness.
Seriously guys, what the hell are you doing? This is not ok. How many threads do we have to make before you actual realise how disgusting the game runs right now? Just over 6 months ago I left because I couldn't deal with the performance issues. I come back and things are worse. Much worse.
You should be ashamed of yourselves, truly. AAA game developers all have problems, but this has been going on for far too long. Please, for the love of god, do something about it. If you can't or won't, at least tell me so I can move on with my life.
At least be honest with us.. are you planning on fixing the performance? And don't give me that crap "We're looking into it", because that excuse has reached its expiry date.
  • Beardimus
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    Platform?
    Xbox One | EU | EP
    Beardimus : VR16 Dunmer MagSorc [RIP MagDW 2015-2018]
    Emperor of Sotha Sil 02-2018 & Sheogorath 05-2019
    1st Emperor of Ravenwatch
    Alts - - for the Lolz
    Archimus : Bosmer Thief / Archer / Werewolf
    Orcimus : Fat drunk Orc battlefield 1st aider
    Scalimus - Argonian Sorc Healer / Pet master

    Fighting small scale with : The SAXON Guild
    Fighting with [PvP] : The Undaunted Wolves
    Trading Guilds : TradersOfNirn | FourSquareTraders

    Xbox One | NA | EP
    Bëardimus : L43 Dunmer Magsorc / BG
    Heals-With-Pets : VR16 Argonian Sorc PvP / BG Healer
    Nordimus : VR16 Stamsorc
    Beardimus le 13iem : L30 Dunmer Magsorc Icereach
  • Universe
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    ZOS mentioned that it is going to take time to fix the performance.
    Here is a reference to the "performance improvements" from ESO Live "The Elder Scrolls Online - Season of the Dragon Post-Show":(watch minutes 26:33-28:01):


    "....6-8 months, so it is going to take some time..."
    Some videos I recorded for fun: Main character:
    PC EU main: Universe - AD magicka Sorcerer, Former Emperor, Grand Overlord, The Merciless, Trial Bosses Solo Champion
    Top alts: Genius(stamina/sagicka Dragonknight) The Force(stamina Nightblade) and other chars.
    PC NA main: The Magic - AD magicka Sorcerer
    Started playing ESO in beta & early access
    User_ID: Daedric_Prince
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    Beardimus wrote: »
    Platform?

    All of them. :D
  • Alucardo
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    Beardimus wrote: »
    Platform?

    PC-EU
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    Actually, you had 190 words, if I counted correctly.
  • Ghettokid
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    Words don't come easy to Orc
    How can I find a way to make Orc see I love Orc
    Words don't come easy
    Words don't come easy to Orc
    This is the only way for Orc to say I love Orc
    Words don't come easy
  • Alucardo
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    Universe wrote: »
    ZOS mentioned that it is going to take time to fix the performance.
    Here is a reference to the "performance improvements" from ESO Live "The Elder Scrolls Online - Season of the Dragon Post-Show":(watch minutes 26:33-28:01):


    "....6-8 months, so it is going to take some time..."

    Many thanks for this. Guess I'll just have to ignore prime time until then and see how these performances changes pan out
  • MashmalloMan
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    Well they've probably been looking in to for a long time. Their spaghetti code can't be easily fixed and each patch makes it worse.

    Something I'm looking forward to is their plan to separate imperial city from the campaigns (next chapter). Should decrease server load.

    They also fixed some issues with itemization this patch that increased my own game performance and load times. That's probably why they were finally able to provide a proper guild trader search in the game. Even when using awesome guild store, I'm getting extremely fast search results compared to before.

    As a reference, on ps4 and ps3, people have been asking for a way to change their PSN IDs since the beginning of it's creation and Sony came out 2 or 3 years ago and basically said it was next to impossible even though it was probably their most requested feature and something they could monetize. I just found an article today that stated they can do it, it's in testing right now.

    Things take time. The connection problems are annoying and have gotten worse, but you can bet ZOS is working on it. So I wouldn't say these problems are from a lack of not caring or trying, but a lack of ideas on how to fix the issue or lack of capable staff/budget.

    This year looks promising however. Fingers crossed.
    Edited by MashmalloMan on March 16, 2019 10:34PM
    PC Beta - 2200+ CP

    Stam Sorc Khajiit PvE/PVP Main || Stam Sorc Dark Elf PvP ||
    Stam Templar Dark Elf || Stam Warden Wood Elf || Stam DK Nord || Stam Necro Orc || Stam Blade Khajiit


    Mag Sorc High Elf || Mag Templar High Elf || Mag Warden Breton || Mag Necro Khajiit || Mag Blade Khajiit
  • JeibuKul
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    Eh, I was just in Sotha Sil for a bit. I had no real issues my ping did fluctuate from 90 - 210 (which is quite annoying), but I didn't experience any rubber banding or some such, even during large fights.

    I don't think it is quite a horrible experience. That said ZOS does need to fix server connections, and figure out a way to optimize it a bit so large battles aren't lagfests. I mean if other games can do it, surely the "best" MMO of the year can do it.
  • Alucardo
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    Ghettokid wrote: »
    Words don't come easy to Orc
    How can I find a way to make Orc see I love Orc
    Words don't come easy
    Words don't come easy to Orc
    This is the only way for Orc to say I love Orc
    Words don't come easy

    That was beautiful. :')
  • Alucardo
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    JeibuKul wrote: »
    Eh, I was just in Sotha Sil for a bit. I had no real issues my ping did fluctuate from 90 - 210 (which is quite annoying), but I didn't experience any rubber banding or some such, even during large fights.

    I don't think it is quite a horrible experience. That said ZOS does need to fix server connections, and figure out a way to optimize it a bit so large battles aren't lagfests. I mean if other games can do it, surely the "best" MMO of the year can do it.

    Yeah, the main reason I chose Sotha this time of night is because it's generally nowhere near as bad as Vivec. Unfortunately tonight for me and the other people in zone chat complaining, it was.
    But hey, as long as they live up to their word and actually try do something about it as Rich said in the stream above, that's fine by me. I can wait as long as I have an ETA and a promise they are working on it.
  • InvictusApollo
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    It was much, much better during the "siege bug". Ping was awesome and game was fluid. Now lag is so big that I've switched to BG. I would reccommend doing the same. Besides it's not like there is any fun in Cyrodill right now.
    The most enjoyable activity right now is soloing several random players who just happened to decide to retake a resource. But even for that you have to wait, while fighting NPCs :/
  • oxygen_thief
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    5 years they did nothing. do you expect they will do anything after this post? they doesnt care. people pay for the bag
  • Zardayne
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    Universe wrote: »
    ZOS mentioned that it is going to take time to fix the performance.

    @oxygen_thief is right. They've been saying this same crap for many years. It's going to take some time, We're working on it, SOON. Yeah heard it all and it's getting old. It was nasty as hell on NA Vivec an hour or two ago as well and run into it quite often. I honestly don't think they know how to fix it.
  • Ri_Khan
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    But I heard there's new crates coming soon, with dagons and necrophiles!
  • Zevrro
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    I don't know how people can keep talking about ZOS saying there will be performance fixes. They say that every patch and the performance still makes the game completely unplayable at times.
    @Zevrro PC-EU
    CP 1200+
    Azura's Star/Sotha Sil/Bahlokdaan
    Magicka Nightblade

    AD | Zevrro
    | Magicka Nightblade | AR43 |
    AD | Zevrro II | Magicka Nightblade | AR50 | 09-02-2019 |
    DC | Not Zevrro | Magicka Nightblade | AR33 |
    EP | Ževrro | Magicka Nightblade | AR14 |
    Other PvP Characters
    AD | Zevrro VII | Stamina Warden | AR33 |
    AD | Zevrro XII | Magicka Warden | AR22 |
    DC | Not Zevrro II | Magicka Warden | AR14 |
    DC | Necrotic Zevrro | Magicka Necromancer | AR17 |
    EP | Real-Skyice | Stamina Warden | AR10 |

    >156m AP
  • Androconium
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    I have some words.

    Not much point offering double materials drop in Gold Coast. Double nothing is still nothing.

    Hew's Bane works well at providing double.
    Double the player volume, double the lag, double the rubbish left behind by fussy farmers.

    Still, its left some other zones under attended.
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    If what they said on stream doesn't pan out the way the players expect, may the eight divines have mercy on their souls.
    Mizaru


    “Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.”
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    Ghettokid wrote: »
    Words don't come easy to Orc
    How can I find a way to make Orc see I love Orc
    Words don't come easy
    Words don't come easy to Orc
    This is the only way for Orc to say I love Orc
    Words don't come easy

    your words are like skooma for the soul...
    PVP Campaigns Section: Playstation NA and EU (Gray Host) - This Must be the Place
  • Universe
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    Zardayne wrote: »
    Universe wrote: »
    ZOS mentioned that it is going to take time to fix the performance.

    @oxygen_thief is right. They've been saying this same crap for many years. It's going to take some time, We're working on it, SOON. Yeah heard it all and it's getting old. It was nasty as hell on NA Vivec an hour or two ago as well and run into it quite often. I honestly don't think they know how to fix it.

    Well, I don't know if they can fix it or not.
    I merely gave a reference from a recent broadcast(2 months ago) with an ETA for the fix.
    They said in January that they can fix the performance in 6-8 months, which means that the major performance improvements should be released in Q3 Update this year at the very least.

    I agree that there is no small chance that ZOS will simply unable to fix the performance.
    Though I'm a bit more optimistic since it seems this is the very first time they actually give an ETA for a major performance patch, which is unprecedented :)
    Edited by Universe on March 17, 2019 2:31PM
    Some videos I recorded for fun: Main character:
    PC EU main: Universe - AD magicka Sorcerer, Former Emperor, Grand Overlord, The Merciless, Trial Bosses Solo Champion
    Top alts: Genius(stamina/sagicka Dragonknight) The Force(stamina Nightblade) and other chars.
    PC NA main: The Magic - AD magicka Sorcerer
    Started playing ESO in beta & early access
    User_ID: Daedric_Prince
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    Working as intended...... There you go there's 3 words for you :)
  • RebornV3x
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    That's a lot of words in your post OP lol
    Xbox One - NA GT: RebornV3x
    I also play on PC from time to time but I just wanna be left alone on there so sorry.
  • Rikumaru
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    Never play on the weekend, it's literally unplayable. Also I would stop playing when you see 2 alliances becoming pop-locked. What's strange is this amount of lag wasn't actually a thing back in wolfhunter even at prime time (at least on sotha eu). ZOS has done something to their game which has caused this insane amount of lag and I'm really not sure what it is and why.
    Overload rework. Power Overload now does physical damage and grants you the power of a tornado: You throw a brick at the target with a light attack, and you hammer your head into that brick with every heavy attack. We have decreased its Ultimate cost, but increased the chance that you get stuck in the animation.
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    Everstorm wrote: »
    Actually, you had 190 words, if I counted correctly.

    I said no words to describe how disappointed, not no words to describe the state of performance right now
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    *communicates in indiscernable screaming*
    EP Sorc: Aydinn
    AD Stamplar: Verdant`Knight
    DC Stamblade: Apple`Punch
    EP Stam Sorc: Kós
    AD DragonKnight: Transmigrant
    EP NIghtblade: Aydinn
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    Kova wrote: »
    *communicates in indiscernable screaming*

    Yeeeap, that's pretty much how it goes!
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    Universe wrote: »
    Zardayne wrote: »
    Universe wrote: »
    ZOS mentioned that it is going to take time to fix the performance.

    @oxygen_thief is right. They've been saying this same crap for many years. It's going to take some time, We're working on it, SOON. Yeah heard it all and it's getting old. It was nasty as hell on NA Vivec an hour or two ago as well and run into it quite often. I honestly don't think they know how to fix it.

    Well, I don't know if they can fix it or not.
    I merely gave a reference from a recent broadcast(2 months ago) with an ETA for the fix.
    They said in January that they can fix the performance in 6-8 months, which means that the major performance improvements should be released in Q3 Update this year at the very least.

    I agree that there is no small chance that ZOS will simply unable to fix the performance.
    Though I'm a bit more optimistic since it seems this is the very first time they actually give an ETA for a major performance patch, which is unprecedented :)

    If they can't fix it - they should tell us that we're paying money for something they don't know how to, or simply can't, FIX.

    People spend time, people spend money, people come here rather than go play games with more promise and working code/servers - because they are told by the MotherShip that things will go better, and we 'trust' them.

    The trust is wearing thin.
    And it's the company that is wearing it out.
    The problem with society these days is that no one drinks from the skulls of their enemies anymore.
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    twev wrote: »
    Universe wrote: »
    Zardayne wrote: »
    Universe wrote: »
    ZOS mentioned that it is going to take time to fix the performance.

    @oxygen_thief is right. They've been saying this same crap for many years. It's going to take some time, We're working on it, SOON. Yeah heard it all and it's getting old. It was nasty as hell on NA Vivec an hour or two ago as well and run into it quite often. I honestly don't think they know how to fix it.

    Well, I don't know if they can fix it or not.
    I merely gave a reference from a recent broadcast(2 months ago) with an ETA for the fix.
    They said in January that they can fix the performance in 6-8 months, which means that the major performance improvements should be released in Q3 Update this year at the very least.

    I agree that there is no small chance that ZOS will simply unable to fix the performance.
    Though I'm a bit more optimistic since it seems this is the very first time they actually give an ETA for a major performance patch, which is unprecedented :)

    If they can't fix it - they should tell us that we're paying money for something they don't know how to, or simply can't, FIX.

    People spend time, people spend money, people come here rather than go play games with more promise and working code/servers - because they are told by the MotherShip that things will go better, and we 'trust' them.

    The trust is wearing thin.
    And it's the company that is wearing it out.

    This was the main concern for me. I don't want to continue investing my time in a game that is never going to get fixed, and evidently get worse each update. Just had to alt+f4 for the second time today because of infinite load screens after a wall repair. If I'm to continue playing, I want to know if they have plans to work on performance. I don't think it's too much to ask for.
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    sorry you had a bad day in cyrodiil my friend
    skingrad when zoscharacters:
    • EP - M - Strikes-with-Arcane - Argonian Stamina Sorc - lvl 50 - The Flawless Conqueror/Spirit Slayer
    • EP - F - Melina Elinia - Dunmer Magicka Dragonknight - lvl 50
    • EP - F - Sinnia Lavellan - Altmer Warden Healer - lvl 50
    • EP - M - Follows-the-Arcane - Argonian Healer Sorcerer- lvl 50
    • EP - F - Ashes-of-Arcane - Argonian Magicka Necromancer - lvl 50
    • EP - M - Bolgrog the Sinh - Orc Stamina Dragonknight - lvl 50
    • EP - F - Moonlight Maiden - Altmer Magicka Templar - lvl 50
    • EP - F - Maxine Cauline - Breton Magicka Nightblade - lvl 50
    • EP - M - Garrus Loridius - Imperial Stamina Templar - lvl 50
    • EP - F - Jennifer Loridius - Imperial Necromancer tank - lvl 50
    PC/NA but live in EU 150+ ping lyfe
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    Browiseth wrote: »
    sorry you had a bad day in cyrodiil my friend

    Ahh, I'm used to it by now. It just upsets me because PvP in this game could be great, like really great. It's just overshadowed by its jokingly bad optimisation.
    I really do hope they fix it one day.
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