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Why do the benefits out weigh the disadvantages of being vampire/werewolf
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Neoealth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭It is a matter of opinion that they do op. Depending on your build and what you want to do in game.
Also, i hate to be a grammar *** but it's weigh, not way.Edited by Neoealth on March 16, 2019 9:57PM1 -
Emma_Overload✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭"Why do the benefits out weigh the disadvantages of being vampire/werewolf?"
Because NOBODY would turn vampire/werewolf if wasn't advantageous somehow?
You know this is an MMO, right?#CAREBEARMASTERRACE19 -
Cladius30✭✭✭✭✭Emma_Overload wrote: »"Why do the benefits out weigh the disadvantages of being vampire/werewolf?"
Because NOBODY would turn vampire/werewolf if wasn't advantageous somehow?
You know this is an MMO, right?
usually its the other way around, there are fewer advantages but people turn because of lore reasons5 -
Neoealth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭The fire damage is quite nasty in end game content. For example stage 4 vampire will have a tough time on that fire stage in vma.6 -
Kulvar✭✭✭✭Emma_Overload wrote: »"Why do the benefits out weigh the disadvantages of being vampire/werewolf?"
Because NOBODY would turn vampire/werewolf if wasn't advantageous somehow?
You know this is an MMO, right?
It can be neutral (advantages + drawbacks)Coward Argonian scholar of the Ebonheart Pact2 -
Cladius30✭✭✭✭✭Emma_Overload wrote: »"Why do the benefits out weigh the disadvantages of being vampire/werewolf?"
Because NOBODY would turn vampire/werewolf if wasn't advantageous somehow?
You know this is an MMO, right?
It can be neutral (advantages + drawbacks)
what are they for both changes?0 -
Neoealth✭✭✭✭✭
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No vampire also has reduced health regen.
The main draw back for werewolf is it takes a ulti spot and it's a timed effect which requires the player to keep attacking and feeding to maintain. Also vampire and werewolf are both weak to the fighters guild abilities.4 -
Cladius30✭✭✭✭✭
No vampire also has reduced health regen.
The main draw back for werewolf is it takes a ulti spot and it's a timed effect which requires the player to keep attacking and feeding to maintain. Also vampire and werewolf are both weak to the fighters guild abilities.
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JeibuKul✭✭I honestly can't think of many games that have some sort of template or change you can make to your character where the penalties outweigh the bonuses provided. At most they are usually equal in what they provide, but honestly in an MMO or most online games they are going to be mostly positive or else no one would ever use them except for a few niche exceptions.
As it stands the fire and poison penalties can be quite painful if you don't know what a certain mob or boss can do to you.Streaming on https://www.twitch.tv/jeibukul1 -
Davor✭✭✭✭✭
✭Not my quote but I love this saying
"I would pay It for support. But since they choosed we are just numbers and not customers, i dont mind if game and zos goes to oblivion"10 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭It is a matter of opinion based on what you do to find what OP has. Just an opinion.
There is a lot of fire in this game. People who are good at managing, avoiding and mitigating damage do pay a lower cost, but that is due to player skill.
But to suggest 25% more damage from fire is not a big deal is to ignore the realities of the game. Heck, one trial most of us cure our vampirism for the final fight. Another trial those with stage 4 vamp have to be careful because there is heavy fire damage.
That is just talking about two trials and does not even get into PvP. So OP can have their opinion, but the OP does not explain their reasoning so it just seems biased.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Emma_Overload wrote: »"Why do the benefits out weigh the disadvantages of being vampire/werewolf?"
Because NOBODY would turn vampire/werewolf if wasn't advantageous somehow?
You know this is an MMO, right?
And yet how they are now, EVERYBODY is a Vampire/Werewolf. Those of us who refuse to get cursed are a minority, which kinda goes against Lore and Immersion.CP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
Quest Objective: OMG Go Talk To That Kitty!5 -
Digiman✭✭✭✭✭I doubt anybody would play them if they were gimped. But there are disadvantages to them.... the problem was when those disadvantages were too high people would not PvE or use them.
Best that comes to mind was vampires stage mechanics. Every time you had to feed to PvE to prevent becoming a match in PvE content.
I doubt Werewolve is required for end game as is vampire either.
aside from that you have fighters guild abilities also.0 -
Tasear✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Tan9oSuccka wrote: »
It’s true, they are vile looking. But nothing really outside of cosmetic.
I don't know the look grows on you after awhile.1 -
IlCanis_LupuslI✭✭✭✭✭
Lets see, Increased Poison Damage taken, No snare removal so vounerable to snare spamming Magica based heals as a Stamclass, No Stealth, No Stealth Detection, No Purge in any form exept synergies
Xbox-EU-AD
Khajiit Night blade Healer(BiS for cuteness)-Flawless Conquerer Grand Overlord
Khajiit Stamsorc Werewolf, Flawless Conquerer (1st attempt ww form during the entire dungeon) main
Khajiit(Master Race) Templar Healer, Flawless Conquerer
Khajiit Stam dk, Flawless conquerer, 2nd attempt
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQhCmVHwZioVyTEDberxGtA?view_as=public
Werewolf Veteran player, Since Wrathstone-DLC "Raid-Wolf", 50k dps with fracture, Pvp Healer.0 -
IlCanis_LupuslI✭✭✭✭✭Emma_Overload wrote: »"Why do the benefits out weigh the disadvantages of being vampire/werewolf?"
Because NOBODY would turn vampire/werewolf if wasn't advantageous somehow?
You know this is an MMO, right?
And yet how they are now, EVERYBODY is a Vampire/Werewolf. Those of us who refuse to get cursed are a minority, which kinda goes against Lore and Immersion.
Muhahahahahahaha Everyone is a Vampire or Werewolf?
Where? Can i go there please? On Xbox Eu the amount of Werewolves I see in Pvp in all 3 alliances togeather in 1 month of playing are 20-25 at best.
Vampires????? Every Magplar, Magden, sometimes even Mag dks.
Xbox-EU-AD
Khajiit Night blade Healer(BiS for cuteness)-Flawless Conquerer Grand Overlord
Khajiit Stamsorc Werewolf, Flawless Conquerer (1st attempt ww form during the entire dungeon) main
Khajiit(Master Race) Templar Healer, Flawless Conquerer
Khajiit Stam dk, Flawless conquerer, 2nd attempt
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQhCmVHwZioVyTEDberxGtA?view_as=public
Werewolf Veteran player, Since Wrathstone-DLC "Raid-Wolf", 50k dps with fracture, Pvp Healer.2 -
IlCanis_LupuslI✭✭✭✭✭Tan9oSuccka wrote: »
It’s true, they are vile looking. But nothing really outside of cosmetic.
Cosmetic as in "Needs Plastic Surgery or a Face Mask " for people to stop getting the urge to vomit when you see the face?
Xbox-EU-AD
Khajiit Night blade Healer(BiS for cuteness)-Flawless Conquerer Grand Overlord
Khajiit Stamsorc Werewolf, Flawless Conquerer (1st attempt ww form during the entire dungeon) main
Khajiit(Master Race) Templar Healer, Flawless Conquerer
Khajiit Stam dk, Flawless conquerer, 2nd attempt
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQhCmVHwZioVyTEDberxGtA?view_as=public
Werewolf Veteran player, Since Wrathstone-DLC "Raid-Wolf", 50k dps with fracture, Pvp Healer.0 -
iiYuki✭✭✭✭✭The fire damage and looking like *** is enough of a disadvantage to me to never want to play vampire, and I would never go WW because its only useful of stamina builds and only then if you actually use the werewolf ultimate often."Play how you want... unless its not how we intended you to play in which case we'll nerf it".
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WuffyCerulei✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I wouldn’t force myself to use skins to cover my ugly pale butt and be easily burnt if the passives weren’t worth it."Buzz Lightyear toy isle shot" Stormcalling/Animal Companions/Assassination PVP build hater
Bring Back Pure Class Build Power0
