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The Markarth DLC and Update 28 base game patch are now available to test on the PTS! Read the full patch notes here: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/categories/pts/

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ChefZero
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  • cheifsoap
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    I'm glad people have opinions but none of this is going to matter if people aren't willing to put their money where their mouth is.
  • amir412
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    cheifsoap wrote: »
    I'm glad people have opinions but none of this is going to matter if people aren't willing to put their money where their mouth is.

    Cant describe it better.
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  • frostz417
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    Won’t matter since the whales will still spend thousands on crownstore and they’re the reason this game is being ruined. Those who don’t experience any end game, just log in spend spend spend. Role players mostly. Not bashing it’s just a complete fact. This group of the game doesn’t see the performance issues therefore will not bother to let up on spending money.
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    Unless this is a new nixxiom video I refuse to click.
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    [video]
  • Jayman1000
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    Zacuel wrote: »
    I don't watch vids either....

    If someone wants to get the message across they'll have to write it out.

    Sorry. Mobile, my data ain't infinite.

    I have mobile with infinite data, sorry for you that your service provider sucks, hope some day free data will be available everywhere. :)
  • ZonasArch
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    Jayman1000 wrote: »
    Zacuel wrote: »
    I don't watch vids either....

    If someone wants to get the message across they'll have to write it out.

    Sorry. Mobile, my data ain't infinite.

    I have mobile with infinite data, sorry for you that your service provider sucks, hope some day free data will be available everywhere. :)

    May the overlords of carriers and ISPs listen to our prayers, brother.
  • driosketch
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    driosketch wrote: »
    TL/DW: Lag is a problem. Followed by 10 minutes of talking about how business side is too focused on making money over fixing performance, and that this will hurt long term perception of an otherwise great game and developers.
    Main: Drio Azul ~ DC, Redguard, Healer/Magicka Templar ~ NA-PC
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  • Beardimus
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    PvP hasn't been the endgame since the addition of Craglorn and its trials.

    Huh??
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    Emperor of Sotha Sil 02-2018 & Sheogorath 05-2019
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    Alts - - for the Lolz
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    Orcimus - Fat drunk Orc battlefield 1st aider
    Scalimus - Argonian Sorc Healer / Pet master

    Fighting for : The SAXON Guild
    Fighting with [PvP] : The Luna Wolves
    Small Scale [PvP] : Random Reds
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  • ezio45
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    some mixed feelings about this.

    I think this is a touch dramatic. Before i get called a white knight, there are few players who have criticized zos more that me. Zos aint going anywhere, they are more than fine. As for the devs vs zenimax media (parent company of zos) there each share blame. There is not a doubt in my mine zeni media is putting alot of pressure on the devs and that their hands are probably tied quiet a bit. The 4 quarters scheduled for content is not a great thing and im sure zm is forcing that on them. For most things I think zos is doing well and are actually trying. End game is ok, its not as bad as the video makes it out to be. If you just looked at pvp alone, its a pretty frustrating mess between the performance and how combat has just gotten really boring over the last year or so. I mean everyone hates on proc sets for requiring no skill but id rather deal with proc sets than the current heavy armor, fights take forever, meta we have now. Endgame pve is ok, lack of diversity with how you can set things up is alittle frustrating. Dungeon finder is frustrating, i dont know if you want to consider that end game. Over all it is kinda weak and isnt up to par with getting to endgame.

    As for the part about them not mentioning performance during the live stream. Obviously theyre not going to. That entire thing for elswyre was a sales pitch.... Were lucky they mentioned it at all honestly. A forum post would have done the job. Also im not saying it being a sales pitch was a bad thing. It looked good, was entertaining and got players excited. Dont expect a review of what there need to fix in the next year during something thats suppose to be hype
  • Bouldercleave
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    ezio45 wrote: »
    some mixed feelings about this.

    I think this is a touch dramatic. Before i get called a white knight, there are few players who have criticized zos more that me. Zos aint going anywhere, they are more than fine. As for the devs vs zenimax media (parent company of zos) there each share blame. There is not a doubt in my mine zeni media is putting alot of pressure on the devs and that their hands are probably tied quiet a bit. The 4 quarters scheduled for content is not a great thing and im sure zm is forcing that on them. For most things I think zos is doing well and are actually trying. End game is ok, its not as bad as the video makes it out to be. If you just looked at pvp alone, its a pretty frustrating mess between the performance and how combat has just gotten really boring over the last year or so. I mean everyone hates on proc sets for requiring no skill but id rather deal with proc sets than the current heavy armor, fights take forever, meta we have now. Endgame pve is ok, lack of diversity with how you can set things up is alittle frustrating. Dungeon finder is frustrating, i dont know if you want to consider that end game. Over all it is kinda weak and isnt up to par with getting to endgame.

    As for the part about them not mentioning performance during the live stream. Obviously theyre not going to. That entire thing for elswyre was a sales pitch.... Were lucky they mentioned it at all honestly. A forum post would have done the job. Also im not saying it being a sales pitch was a bad thing. It looked good, was entertaining and got players excited. Dont expect a review of what there need to fix in the next year during something thats suppose to be hype

    I agree - and rest assured, I seriously doubt anyone here would call YOU a white knight. >:)
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  • Girl_Number8
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    I thought people worked for money, lots of sweet crown crate money :|

    How else are they going to buy more bike riders for the servers.
  • Rukzadlithau
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    Another one that really believes the devs have real passion for this game, and some evil „suit“ is the reason they can‘t even get simple QOL changes done. Sure, maybe this isn‘t in their work schedule, as it is tight knit to pump out all the cash grab content - but it‘s still their own choice. Believe in common sense: No business owner would ever deny any employee to put in extra effort to improve the product. Most people on this forum simply prefer to demonize an unidentified higher up, because it is cooler to sympathize with the devs that display manchild profanity on their live streams.
  • ezio45
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    ezio45 wrote: »
    some mixed feelings about this.

    I think this is a touch dramatic. Before i get called a white knight, there are few players who have criticized zos more that me. Zos aint going anywhere, they are more than fine. As for the devs vs zenimax media (parent company of zos) there each share blame. There is not a doubt in my mine zeni media is putting alot of pressure on the devs and that their hands are probably tied quiet a bit. The 4 quarters scheduled for content is not a great thing and im sure zm is forcing that on them. For most things I think zos is doing well and are actually trying. End game is ok, its not as bad as the video makes it out to be. If you just looked at pvp alone, its a pretty frustrating mess between the performance and how combat has just gotten really boring over the last year or so. I mean everyone hates on proc sets for requiring no skill but id rather deal with proc sets than the current heavy armor, fights take forever, meta we have now. Endgame pve is ok, lack of diversity with how you can set things up is alittle frustrating. Dungeon finder is frustrating, i dont know if you want to consider that end game. Over all it is kinda weak and isnt up to par with getting to endgame.

    As for the part about them not mentioning performance during the live stream. Obviously theyre not going to. That entire thing for elswyre was a sales pitch.... Were lucky they mentioned it at all honestly. A forum post would have done the job. Also im not saying it being a sales pitch was a bad thing. It looked good, was entertaining and got players excited. Dont expect a review of what there need to fix in the next year during something thats suppose to be hype

    I agree - and rest assured, I seriously doubt anyone here would call YOU a white knight. >:)

    oh good, imma go somewhere else and rant about shields and sorc

    *shakes fist like old man* you hooligans fix my shields
  • Aurielle
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    Why share that when you can share this?



    I love this game, but it’s getting harder and harder to justify spending money on it when the game can’t even handle a 12 man battleground.
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    driosketch wrote: »
    driosketch wrote: »
    TL/DW: Lag is a problem. Followed by 10 minutes of talking about how business side is too focused on making money over fixing performance, and that this will hurt long term perception of an otherwise great game and developers.

    Basically EA bias right? If the game has problems then the devs must only care about makin money right?
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  • MartiniDaniels
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    Buzo wrote: »
    Another one that really believes the devs have real passion for this game, and some evil „suit“ is the reason they can‘t even get simple QOL changes done. Sure, maybe this isn‘t in their work schedule, as it is tight knit to pump out all the cash grab content - but it‘s still their own choice. Believe in common sense: No business owner would ever deny any employee to put in extra effort to improve the product. Most people on this forum simply prefer to demonize an unidentified higher up, because it is cooler to sympathize with the devs that display manchild profanity on their live streams.

    I worked in several top IT companies with brightest trademarks and slogans, you will be surprised by it is persecuted if you do something to customer for free which otherwise can be sold or if you spend time on something useful to customer but useless from term of profit.
  • driosketch
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    driosketch wrote: »
    driosketch wrote: »
    TL/DW: Lag is a problem. Followed by 10 minutes of talking about how business side is too focused on making money over fixing performance, and that this will hurt long term perception of an otherwise great game and developers.

    Basically EA bias right? If the game has problems then the devs must only care about makin money right?

    Pretty much, right down to "this highly successful money marker business model you have going on will burst any time now when people stop buying your future games." I'll believe it when I see that happen.
    Main: Drio Azul ~ DC, Redguard, Healer/Magicka Templar ~ NA-PC
    ●The Psijic Order●The Sidekick Order●Great House Hlaalu●Bal-Busters●
  • Rukzadlithau
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    Buzo wrote: »
    Another one that really believes the devs have real passion for this game, and some evil „suit“ is the reason they can‘t even get simple QOL changes done. Sure, maybe this isn‘t in their work schedule, as it is tight knit to pump out all the cash grab content - but it‘s still their own choice. Believe in common sense: No business owner would ever deny any employee to put in extra effort to improve the product. Most people on this forum simply prefer to demonize an unidentified higher up, because it is cooler to sympathize with the devs that display manchild profanity on their live streams.

    I worked in several top IT companies with brightest trademarks and slogans, you will be surprised by it is persecuted if you do something to customer for free which otherwise can be sold or if you spend time on something useful to customer but useless from term of profit.

    I never worked for any top IT companies.

    You truly think they want to monetize bug fixes? Lol.
    And how is improving the service non contributional to profit? There are weekly „I‘m quitting“ posts, because of problems that persisted for years and have been falsely promised to be fixed.
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