Skills Not Firing?

rwelshmub17_ESO

Since the update I created a new character Khajit StamDK to try out. I'm finding as I'm playing the skill either doesn't fire or delayed. My FPS is around 80 -100 ping just over 100 do dont think its latency. Anybody else having this issue?

Cheers,

LordTareq

Probably latency. This can be server-side in which case your latency can appear fine. ESO doesn't have the best latency as it is, my ping in other MMO's is around 30 usually. In ESO its about 70-100. Skills not firing, and especially the CC break not working, is a regular occurrence for me in PvP situations.

f047ys3v3n

Zos seems to have a lot of problems with skills not firing. These seem to stem from several causes:

1) Latency issues. This is number 1 in PVP. Probably only half the combat skills activated in PVP actually ever fire. The skills seem to just be buffer dumped when the servers lag out. Some skills seem to have more issues than other in that regard and which skills work or don't does seem to change from time to time. It is almost like there is some underlying priority structure to it. In any case, big advantage to serious PVP players, and those who copy their builds, just for using skills with a better chance at going off. I'm not sure what can really be done to fix all this as PVP server latency issues are tough to handle and ZOS seems to have spent a lot of effort on it with very little success.

2) ZOS garbage targeting system. Any time your target is eclipsed by another target (and this can include team mates or dead enemies) during a targeted attack, the attack will not go off. Changes such as longer projectile travel times for things like crystal shards, daedric curse, and spectral bow proc, seem to have adversely effected this already present problem. Getting a frag proc to fire into a cluster of trash mobs is maybe a 20% proposition at this point. In my view this is one of the most major combat mechanics problems ZOS has. Shy of cheats, I would say this, bar swaps failing to happen for any reason, and heavy / light attack scaling are #1, #2, and #3 for bugs up my hind end. It is so frustrating to have your rotation constantly blown up with non firing skills.

The solution to this problem is actually fairly easy, and could be implemented totally client side for no lag problems. The targeting system simply needs to include all the targets within a range in front of the player and fire at whatever one is last either tabbed or recorded as primary. This should not need to be the one that was primary when the ability cast started. Right now the targeting system seems to include only 1 target and if that target changes mid ability no target is selected and the ability fails to fire. This makes firing into a roiling mass of targets virtually impossible despite that it feels like it would be impossible to miss. I should also note that tabbed targets should always be hit when they are valid instead of the current system where they can only be hit when not eclipsed by another target.

klowdy1

A bit off topic (though this made me wonder), is there an addon that keeps you from sheathing your weapons? I'm leveling my NB, and every time I come up to a new group, I hit trending slashes, and I have to wait to arm myself, and lose the first attack, where the enemy has time to prepare. A bit annoying when I dont have any AOE yet, and there are groups of baddies.

Ragnarock41

Its not just you, happens a lot, I find myself pressing skills 2-3 times in a row sometimes and delay goes up to 3-4 seconds in laggy cyrodiil nights.

rwelshmub17_ESO

Thanks,

This is not PVP though this is fighting trash mobs at low level and maybe some delve bosses. I've never experienced this in PVE, Cyrodil yes but not PVE. For me its only since the latest patch.

Ive been doing some experimenting with this last night, it seems I have to wait for my LA to finish before I launch a skill, other times I purposly slowed down and launched with a skill and sure enough as the mob is hitting me it took maybe 2 or 3 times pushing the key before the skill launched. Its not all the time but I would say 40%-50%, My FPS at the time was consistent 90-100 FPS and ping around 100.

Again seems to be since last patch. I'm use a razor orb weaver and mouse and can weave ok, not as good as some but I hold my own.

I wonder was anything done to force us to slow down and put some controls around AC?

Narthalion

Not just you, and not a matter of targeting either. I noticed this a lot last night while farming Sunhold. I would hit Elemental Blockade or Volatile Armor on my magDK and...nothing. As if I hadn't done it. It happened enough that I started spamming keys a bit.

I've also noticed since this last patch that occasionally I'll hit D to go right and instead keep going straight. Same sort of deal. Not the keyboard, I can type it in a chat. No pattern that I've noticed to predict when it's going to happen. Duration is usually short, but also not predictable.

Or yet another example, a few times now I've seen light attacks go through a slow heavy attack-style animation before finally firing. And it's not actually a heavy attack because my movement speed doesn't slow down, which it normally would during an HA.

It's like a lag spike, basically, except that the game seems to usually handle lag spikes this long by ceasing to update animations. In these cases, animations continue. The game will even respond to other actions.

I wonder if it's the same thing that has lately caused some chat messages to deliver out of order. Like, I'll type a response to someone's whisper, send another message a few seconds later...and the second goes through right away, while the first one hangs up in some queue some where and delivers anywhere from a second up to maybe 10 seconds later. Very confusing for the person on the other end of the conversation.

Basically, it seems like there's a hiccup in the event queue. Somehow these actions aren't ending up in the stack, or are delayed, while other events do get added to the stack and processed.

Alucardo

Just had 48 ping and it felt like 999+. It was taking 2 seconds to bar swap, and I had to mash the same button countless times before it fired off, people were rubberbanding all over the place.
I've never seen this kind of behaviour before, and I have no idea what's going on.

Edit: This was on Sotha where it's generally pretty tame.

rwelshmub17_ESO

Hey been doing some more looking at this, it only seems to be an issue on my Khajitt Stam DK. I went back to my main a Redguard Stamblade and no issues. I also tried on my higher level Breton Mag Warden same thing no issues.

ApostateHobo

I've noticed this as well since the update. Click a skill, nothing happens, click it again it finally goes off. A lot of things in general seem rather delayed after wrathstone. Like with deleting mail being slower and whatnot. Hopefully this is something they'll be able to fix eventually.

amith

Same here been seeing this a lot lately...

Kesstryl

This has been happening a lot on my sorc tank, click something, and something does not go off. This is bad for a tank when you need to taunt and block a lot.

ChunkyCat

When you run out of stamina or Magicka, you have to wait for it to replenish before you can cast a skill again.

Now run along and have some fun. Brush your teeth before bed.

Suddwrath

My ping has remained the same, but ever since the update I have noticed a very significant increase in skills not firing even after multiple button presses.

iiYuki

Its the worst it been in a while atm. I keep having problems with my Elemental weapon + Light Attack; either the ability doesn't cast but the magicka is taken, the ability casts then the light attack doesn't fire or I cast EW several times in a row without LA / LA several times without EW.
Ping 120, FPS 30-70. I've played Korean F2P games with more stable servers.

Inglorioushero69

I seem to have trouble especially with blazing shards going off in particular, either it doesn’t cast or if I tap repeatedly it casts twice, messing with rotations on the Magplar

Protoavis73

I have this as well lately.
Yesterday in a few trials, it just sometimes doesn't fire off the skill I'm pressing, while doing LA animation cancelling before that. The one I noticed it the most is Leeching Strikes.
I have to press it 2 or 3 times before it finally is activated. Trying to get a good dps is hard this way.

Joxer61

it sucks..try it in land of Oz, where my lat is on average a lovely 350+! Oh joy!

Imryll

Sometimes it's skills and sometimes it's my staff attack that won't fire. And it's not just in Cyrodiil, but also just farming mudcrab souls.

rwelshmub17_ESO

This really seems to be a problem since the update, but will be hard to track down by ZOS. I was thinking of opening a ticket but in reality dont think it will go anywhere. Maybe the forum moderators will take a look at this and bring it back. To me it seems to be certain not all skills delay just certain times. I'm still continuing to to experience it on my Stam DK I'm levelling at the moment and it does get me killed when the rotation gets messed up.

akredon_ESO

This has always been an issue for me in pvp and some times in PVE. Its ZOS servers not much can be done about it sadly.
I have a 500 mbps connections and still have issues. I gave up chalk it up to being their side of the problem

roarr

And I thought i am just rly bad at this game... Turns out it's just zos ^^

Banana

I gave up weaving properly years ago. Heavy attack builds are my only option

Alucardo

Banana wrote: »

I gave up weaving properly years ago. Heavy attack builds are my only option

Tried that too, but lately my heavy attacks have been getting stuck. Like I hold the mouse button down and literally nothing happens.
I've now started playing eso the way it wants to be played - by taking all the skills off my bar and running into zergs with my arms open.

Minserette

Alucardo wrote: »

Banana wrote: »

I gave up weaving properly years ago. Heavy attack builds are my only option

Tried that too, but lately my heavy attacks have been getting stuck. Like I hold the mouse button down and literally nothing happens.
I've now started playing eso the way it wants to be played - by taking all the skills off my bar and running into zergs with my arms open.

I have exactly the same issue on PC EU. And not firing HA glitch stays until I take both weapons of and re-equip them again. I'm running DD magsorc Khajiit, double destro. Didin't notice any problems with other skills not firing but HA... - it completely ruins my rotation. Boss fights in PVE solo main quest became a stuff of nightmares, since I'm only 3 weeks into the game and lvl 38, no CP.
My guild mates told me this is an old glitch, and I indeed had it occasionally, but it was just a random occurrence before, hardly notices. Now I as well may not have HA at all, because glitch occurs almost at every second-third enemy.

Kurat

Same here, PC/NA, mag warden. It started after the last patch. Fps and ping are the same as before 100/130. Impossible to parse dummy even. Alot of light attacks dont fire, sometimes skills. Sometimes it seems like targeting issue and sometimes it's just delay. My dps has gone down 3-4K because of that. Wtf Zos. And in trials it's even worse with low fps. Major dps loss.
My stam toons dont seem to be affected much, weaving is smoother, but skills still don't fire always.

Maybe it's a "balancing" feature and working as intended.

magicsprout

haha yeah the eclipse thing is soo annoying . hard stack healer u stand at back and don't move......now remind me again why my eledrain uptime isnt 100%

Etrella

Oh wow, I almost bought a new controller thinking it was broken because I have been having the same problem. It would be nice if Zos actually acknowledges this issue. I would have been really mad to spend that money to later find out it was a Zos issue as usual.

ne.ga.kurai_ESO

I am still having skill issues on PC with 80-100 ping. Sometimes skills don't fire, sometimes I can't hit someone right in front of me.

ZarkingFrued

I have huge skill delays and misfires every single time I try to pvp in the populated main campaign. So does every player I associate with. PvP is dying horribly because of this. PS4 na. Even the players who are there regardless of the huge lag are losing faith

TheWoanderer

Having serious issues myself.
Made a Khajiit Necromancer... Running Vet Falkreath tonight and my toon is just standing there... Full Majicka bar and I'm hitting my Y button about 20 times.... Nothing.... I'm just standing there...
The only skill that seems to work without incident is my Light Attack.... Try to spam B to drop self healing because all of a sudden I am about to die and... Surprise Surprise...
Doesn't fire...
I'm dead.

Even my team mates say. You were just standing there... Yeah, thanks for pointing out the obvious Fellas and Fellettes 😐

To have spent a day reinstalling this game to be faced with this issue, is like a proverbial kick in the teeth...

When they said on the Twitch live stream... Console users WILL notice a difference, this certainly wasn't the difference I expected.

And I have a fruitfly that shines a red light out of it's bottom as a thank you 😕

Gameplay is jumpy during PVE, In Group Dungeon's the search option on a dead body once selected (if it shows at all) takes up to a count of 5 seconds to display the contents (Hey, where did everyone go)

Dungeon Finder I get a 'failed to make the jump' error and then cannot get into the dungeon and have to get kicked from group and now have a penalty meaning I can't use Dungeon Finder for 14 minutes??? That's along time to be standing around to wait 20 more minutes to get a 'someone declined and you were placed at the front of the que' response.

We are still losing Group Chat in Dungeon Finder and a new thing for me is the text HUD disappears too.

Frostvault is still bugged making farming Tzogvan's an absolute nightmare...
Two nights ago, Frostvault Vet.... Froze up 5 times on end boss for one of the DD's resulting in 5 total xbox resets for him and then froze for me, the healer right at the last second which really sucked as I did not get to share in the group satisfaction of seeing that end boss fall.
Felt incredibly deflating sadly

Wayrest is still bugged with being feared into the stairs or a crate and/or not being able to get through the door.

And maybe, just maybe... I'm being overtly cynical with this but I'm even wondering if the reason we are not seeing the 'this may be an unusually long load time' display as much, is because they have extended the time it takes to show... Yes load times are ever so slightly quicker but for all the other issues, it's not enough to make one feel as though things are any better than they were.

Seriously, I'm paying for this man... and even though I'm led to understand that 'the internet' is struggling due to all the self isolating going on, this has been going on from well before the current 'Internet issue' and it's just not right.

Phew... Felt good to get that off my chest 🤔

All that being said though, it's still the best game out there despite the frustrating issues but really they do need to fix this once and for all.

THIS ACCOUNT IS ALREADY LOGGED IN

AAARGH

😔