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Nerf Relequen, buff stamina DD

Bigevilpeter
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really this set has killed stamina DDs in PvE, its damage is insane on parses and puts every other set to shame. The effects itself add like 7k dps to parses making stamina DD seem much stronger than they are.

Now devs saw it fit to nerf weapon enchantments for DW and thus nerfing Stamdds. Those who use any other set will just to horrible damage compared to magicka and still be melee so higher risk.

Plz nerf this stupid set, its ruining PvE stamina DD
  • Wing
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    doubt this will change

    historically instead of nerfing a problem set they make blanket nerfs to an entire class of armor / weapons. heavy armor is a great example of this, one or two problem sets, nerf heavy armor in general.

    etc. this is how they balance.
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  • Lord_Dexter
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    really this set has killed stamina DDs in PvE, its damage is insane on parses and puts every other set to shame. The effects itself add like 7k dps to parses making stamina DD seem much stronger than they are.

    Now devs saw it fit to nerf weapon enchantments for DW and thus nerfing Stamdds. Those who use any other set will just to horrible damage compared to magicka and still be melee so higher risk.

    Plz nerf this stupid set, its ruining PvE stamina DD

    DW enchantment nerf is part of balance, it was giving double bonus.
    Edited by Lord_Dexter on February 12, 2019 7:25AM
  • Bigevilpeter
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    really this set has killed stamina DDs in PvE, its damage is insane on parses and puts every other set to shame. The effects itself add like 7k dps to parses making stamina DD seem much stronger than they are.

    Now devs saw it fit to nerf weapon enchantments for DW and thus nerfing Stamdds. Those who use any other set will just to horrible damage compared to magicka and still be melee so higher risk.

    Plz nerf this stupid set, its ruining PvE stamina DD

    DW enchantment nerf is part of balance, it was giving double bonus.

    Yes but in practice it is mainly used by stamina PvE DD 90% of the time, even if it makes sense this is a direct nerf to something that already wasnt in a good spot, hence why this change is fine, but relequen should be nerfed and stamina DD should be buffed
  • Lord_Dexter
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    really this set has killed stamina DDs in PvE, its damage is insane on parses and puts every other set to shame. The effects itself add like 7k dps to parses making stamina DD seem much stronger than they are.

    Now devs saw it fit to nerf weapon enchantments for DW and thus nerfing Stamdds. Those who use any other set will just to horrible damage compared to magicka and still be melee so higher risk.

    Plz nerf this stupid set, its ruining PvE stamina DD

    DW enchantment nerf is part of balance, it was giving double bonus.

    Yes but in practice it is mainly used by stamina PvE DD 90% of the time, even if it makes sense this is a direct nerf to something that already wasnt in a good spot, hence why this change is fine, but relequen should be nerfed and stamina DD should be buffed

    #SupportBalance and be fair please!
  • VioletVience
    stamina DD should be buffed

    And ofc stamblade should be nerfed because this class deal much more damage without relequen then other stamdd.
  • SaintSubwayy
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    Well the dmg of relequens shines way above every other option stam dds once had
    It started with the nerf to NMG and SF, two great sets which provided alot of group synergy
    Then (was the same patch SS i believe) they added in relequen to "help" lower skilled players...which actually made the set diversity go down the drain, since it overpoweres even sets like tfs, which where the go to set for solo pve before relequen

    Relequen provides "free" dmg and alot in that manner...if you can keep the stack goimg in a fight, it is your nr 1 or nr2 dmg source...which is insane for a proccset imo

    A slight nerf to it to reduce stack dmg by x for each stack wouldnt hurt too badly, especially if they will give somwthing in return like 2k pen on medium armor
    Edited by SaintSubwayy on February 12, 2019 8:42AM
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  • ccfeeling
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    Nerf relequen, AY, Siroria, SS, fair deal?

    Lets all farm again right?
  • SaintSubwayy
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    ccfeeling wrote: »
    Nerf relequen, AY, Siroria, SS, fair deal?

    Lets all farm again right?

    it doesnt have to be nerfed into oblivion m8 (even that would likle ybe the option ZOS would pick)
    I slight nerf to Relequen would not hurt, but make other sets more competitive in PVE

    TBH SS, and Siroria are very very niche sets IMO.

    Fights moving, and there's adds etc. they both become "underperforming" due to the DMG loss on minibosses or adds.
    BSW is the alternative and its already widely used in trials like vCR+x, or vAS +1 /+2. dont see the need for nerfs there tbh.
    Ofc they are strong in fight like vAA Mage, where the boss is jsut chilling, and nothing else needs hard focus.
    but the "problem" with relequen is, that it can bekept up 100% of the time, due to bows light attacks on ranged. never dropping those 8k dps
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  • Onefrkncrzypope
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    It's carrying all other classes but nbs. I hate the set but what can you do? Wait for the next chapter in op proc set online.
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  • Wolf_Watching
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    Go away nerfomancers!
    If This Iz Mispelld, I Totelly Mint to Due Tht.
  • Edziu
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    Go away nerfomancers!

    or maybe go away really overperforming single set destroying entire stam builds efficiency and diversity
    Pro Xp Waster Jaszcz - Khajiit stamina NB, DC EU PC 40AR -main char(no meta cancer build except monster set but its changing situationally)
    Lubisz to Suko - radiantspam repentanting T-bagging Cancerplar (obsolete, retired)
    Bury Zenek - master race Dunmer magdk tonk/dd, argonian slaver (obselote, retired)
    Twin Grakata - stamplar for fun after got sick of NB's meta(Blackrose Executioner)
    1.1k+CP on PC EU [] 28000+ Achievement points [] 2900+ Lorebuks doesnt care anymore about this as stopped play main char (pissed off gathering same achievs again and again...)
    370CP on PC NA (stamplar and stamablade lvled)
    retired from eso since morrowind, back after half of year for short time and again retired after summerset, back with cwc event idk for how long
    DD should gather red circles as many as can
  • Wolf_Watching
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    Edziu wrote: »
    Go away nerfomancers!

    or maybe go away really overperforming single set destroying entire stam builds efficiency and diversity

    Dude it's situational & based on your roto peformance. If it's not a dmg proc it'll just be something else. Why change it?
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  • Wolf_Watching
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    ccfeeling wrote: »
    Nerf relequen, AY, Siroria, SS, fair deal?

    Lets all farm again right?

    it doesnt have to be nerfed into oblivion m8 (even that would likle ybe the option ZOS would pick)
    I slight nerf to Relequen would not hurt, but make other sets more competitive in PVE

    TBH SS, and Siroria are very very niche sets IMO.

    Fights moving, and there's adds etc. they both become "underperforming" due to the DMG loss on minibosses or adds.
    BSW is the alternative and its already widely used in trials like vCR+x, or vAS +1 /+2. dont see the need for nerfs there tbh.
    Ofc they are strong in fight like vAA Mage, where the boss is jsut chilling, and nothing else needs hard focus.
    but the "problem" with relequen is, that it can bekept up 100% of the time, due to bows light attacks on ranged. never dropping those 8k dps

    Rele is niche too and inflated w/dummies like everything else.
    If This Iz Mispelld, I Totelly Mint to Due Tht.
  • Bigevilpeter
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    ccfeeling wrote: »
    Nerf relequen, AY, Siroria, SS, fair deal?

    Lets all farm again right?

    it doesnt have to be nerfed into oblivion m8 (even that would likle ybe the option ZOS would pick)
    I slight nerf to Relequen would not hurt, but make other sets more competitive in PVE

    TBH SS, and Siroria are very very niche sets IMO.

    Fights moving, and there's adds etc. they both become "underperforming" due to the DMG loss on minibosses or adds.
    BSW is the alternative and its already widely used in trials like vCR+x, or vAS +1 /+2. dont see the need for nerfs there tbh.
    Ofc they are strong in fight like vAA Mage, where the boss is jsut chilling, and nothing else needs hard focus.
    but the "problem" with relequen is, that it can bekept up 100% of the time, due to bows light attacks on ranged. never dropping those 8k dps

    Rele is niche too and inflated w/dummies like everything else.

    its still better than everything else in non optimal situations
  • ccfeeling
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    There are too many garbage sets in the game, nerf relequen cannot fix the problem.

    End game players will still find out the best setup.

    Its not possible to nerf every meta set monthly.

    Zos has already killed NMG, sunnerflame in trial, almost all proc sets, enchancement next, not enough?


  • idk
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    really this set has killed stamina DDs in PvE, its damage is insane on parses and puts every other set to shame. The effects itself add like 7k dps to parses making stamina DD seem much stronger than they are.

    Now devs saw it fit to nerf weapon enchantments for DW and thus nerfing Stamdds. Those who use any other set will just to horrible damage compared to magicka and still be melee so higher risk.

    Plz nerf this stupid set, its ruining PvE stamina DD

    DW enchantment nerf is part of balance, it was giving double bonus.

    Yes but in practice it is mainly used by stamina PvE DD 90% of the time, even if it makes sense this is a direct nerf to something that already wasnt in a good spot, hence why this change is fine, but relequen should be nerfed and stamina DD should be buffed

    #SupportBalance and be fair please!

    It seems rare these threads include such thoughts.
    Really, idk
  • Wolf_Watching
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    ccfeeling wrote: »
    Nerf relequen, AY, Siroria, SS, fair deal?

    Lets all farm again right?

    it doesnt have to be nerfed into oblivion m8 (even that would likle ybe the option ZOS would pick)
    I slight nerf to Relequen would not hurt, but make other sets more competitive in PVE

    TBH SS, and Siroria are very very niche sets IMO.

    Fights moving, and there's adds etc. they both become "underperforming" due to the DMG loss on minibosses or adds.
    BSW is the alternative and its already widely used in trials like vCR+x, or vAS +1 /+2. dont see the need for nerfs there tbh.
    Ofc they are strong in fight like vAA Mage, where the boss is jsut chilling, and nothing else needs hard focus.
    but the "problem" with relequen is, that it can bekept up 100% of the time, due to bows light attacks on ranged. never dropping those 8k dps

    Rele is niche too and inflated w/dummies like everything else.

    its still better than everything else in non optimal situations

    Right and it never should've been released, but... I don't think it should go away completely. What should happen is the proc should go away & should be changed to something w/slightly better damage than the next best set when filled in its place.
    If This Iz Mispelld, I Totelly Mint to Due Tht.
  • MikaHR
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    ALL proc sets should be nerfed by 50-70% and in addition to that made not work in PvP.

    Power creep is getting out of hand...and it will get buffed by another 20% due to CP changes...to add more fuel to power creep completely spiraling out of control.
    Edited by MikaHR on February 12, 2019 9:16AM
  • Edziu
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    ccfeeling wrote: »
    There are too many garbage sets in the game, nerf relequen cannot fix the problem.

    End game players will still find out the best setup.

    Its not possible to nerf every meta set monthly.

    Zos has already killed NMG, sunnerflame in trial, almost all proc sets, enchancement next, not enough?


    but this nerf would open more doors than 1 with more viable sets
    we had more than single viable set for stam dd before releq release and what we have now? only releq or no dps, this is difference
    as someone was mentioned this before - no any set is giving you that huge dps boost like this (7k-10k) and if not this set then we could have option of atlaast 2-3 other sets to use instad of this 1 on every class
    Pro Xp Waster Jaszcz - Khajiit stamina NB, DC EU PC 40AR -main char(no meta cancer build except monster set but its changing situationally)
    Lubisz to Suko - radiantspam repentanting T-bagging Cancerplar (obsolete, retired)
    Bury Zenek - master race Dunmer magdk tonk/dd, argonian slaver (obselote, retired)
    Twin Grakata - stamplar for fun after got sick of NB's meta(Blackrose Executioner)
    1.1k+CP on PC EU [] 28000+ Achievement points [] 2900+ Lorebuks doesnt care anymore about this as stopped play main char (pissed off gathering same achievs again and again...)
    370CP on PC NA (stamplar and stamablade lvled)
    retired from eso since morrowind, back after half of year for short time and again retired after summerset, back with cwc event idk for how long
    DD should gather red circles as many as can
  • Wolf_Watching
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    Edziu wrote: »
    ccfeeling wrote: »
    There are too many garbage sets in the game, nerf relequen cannot fix the problem.

    End game players will still find out the best setup.

    Its not possible to nerf every meta set monthly.

    Zos has already killed NMG, sunnerflame in trial, almost all proc sets, enchancement next, not enough?


    but this nerf would open more doors than 1 with more viable sets
    we had more than single viable set for stam dd before releq release and what we have now? only releq or no dps, this is difference
    as someone was mentioned this before - no any set is giving you that huge dps boost like this (7k-10k) and if not this set then we could have option of atlaast 2-3 other sets to use instad of this 1 on every class

    Next it will be vma bow & staff. Get the nerf train rolling w/broad statements like this & watch what happens.
    If This Iz Mispelld, I Totelly Mint to Due Tht.
  • ccfeeling
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    Nerf AS destroy staff too, too many mag dps use it :D
  • Wolf_Watching
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    ccfeeling wrote: »
    Nerf relequen, AY, Siroria, SS, fair deal?

    Lets all farm again right?

    it doesnt have to be nerfed into oblivion m8 (even that would likle ybe the option ZOS would pick)
    I slight nerf to Relequen would not hurt, but make other sets more competitive in PVE

    TBH SS, and Siroria are very very niche sets IMO.

    Fights moving, and there's adds etc. they both become "underperforming" due to the DMG loss on minibosses or adds.
    BSW is the alternative and its already widely used in trials like vCR+x, or vAS +1 /+2. dont see the need for nerfs there tbh.
    Ofc they are strong in fight like vAA Mage, where the boss is jsut chilling, and nothing else needs hard focus.
    but the "problem" with relequen is, that it can bekept up 100% of the time, due to bows light attacks on ranged. never dropping those 8k dps

    Rele is niche too and inflated w/dummies like everything else.

    its still better than everything else in non optimal situations

    Right and it never should've been released, but... I don't think it should go away completely. What should happen is the proc should go away & should be changed to something w/slightly better damage than the next best set when filled in its place.

    Or increase the dmg from the proc and decrease its time active to 3 or 2 seconds to make it more niche & encourage tight weaving & less free dmg.
    If This Iz Mispelld, I Totelly Mint to Due Tht.
  • Edziu
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    Edziu wrote: »
    ccfeeling wrote: »
    There are too many garbage sets in the game, nerf relequen cannot fix the problem.

    End game players will still find out the best setup.

    Its not possible to nerf every meta set monthly.

    Zos has already killed NMG, sunnerflame in trial, almost all proc sets, enchancement next, not enough?


    but this nerf would open more doors than 1 with more viable sets
    we had more than single viable set for stam dd before releq release and what we have now? only releq or no dps, this is difference
    as someone was mentioned this before - no any set is giving you that huge dps boost like this (7k-10k) and if not this set then we could have option of atlaast 2-3 other sets to use instad of this 1 on every class

    Next it will be vma bow & staff. Get the nerf train rolling w/broad statements like this & watch what happens.

    and with it people are fine for yours now...but ofc there was also nerf for vma bow but master bow also is good option instead of vma so no need to nerf it that much
    these sets are taking single slots, just single weapon while not taking away our full set diversty and that huge difference like stupid relequen....
    how much difference in dps these items are making? 1k? 2k? 3? I doubt this is making more than 3k dps difference while perfected relequen can do up to even 10k and this is PROC SET while maelstrom dont even are close to proc sets..these are buffing single things which you need to use in combat to make use of them, not to only spam LA like releq
    Pro Xp Waster Jaszcz - Khajiit stamina NB, DC EU PC 40AR -main char(no meta cancer build except monster set but its changing situationally)
    Lubisz to Suko - radiantspam repentanting T-bagging Cancerplar (obsolete, retired)
    Bury Zenek - master race Dunmer magdk tonk/dd, argonian slaver (obselote, retired)
    Twin Grakata - stamplar for fun after got sick of NB's meta(Blackrose Executioner)
    1.1k+CP on PC EU [] 28000+ Achievement points [] 2900+ Lorebuks doesnt care anymore about this as stopped play main char (pissed off gathering same achievs again and again...)
    370CP on PC NA (stamplar and stamablade lvled)
    retired from eso since morrowind, back after half of year for short time and again retired after summerset, back with cwc event idk for how long
    DD should gather red circles as many as can
  • Wolf_Watching
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    Edziu wrote: »
    Edziu wrote: »
    ccfeeling wrote: »
    There are too many garbage sets in the game, nerf relequen cannot fix the problem.

    End game players will still find out the best setup.

    Its not possible to nerf every meta set monthly.

    Zos has already killed NMG, sunnerflame in trial, almost all proc sets, enchancement next, not enough?


    but this nerf would open more doors than 1 with more viable sets
    we had more than single viable set for stam dd before releq release and what we have now? only releq or no dps, this is difference
    as someone was mentioned this before - no any set is giving you that huge dps boost like this (7k-10k) and if not this set then we could have option of atlaast 2-3 other sets to use instad of this 1 on every class

    Next it will be vma bow & staff. Get the nerf train rolling w/broad statements like this & watch what happens.

    and with it people are fine for yours now...but ofc there was also nerf for vma bow but master bow also is good option instead of vma so no need to nerf it that much
    these sets are taking single slots, just single weapon while not taking away our full set diversty and that huge difference like stupid relequen....
    how much difference in dps these items are making? 1k? 2k? 3? I doubt this is making more than 3k dps difference while perfected relequen can do up to even 10k and this is PROC SET while maelstrom dont even are close to proc sets..these are buffing single things which you need to use in combat to make use of them, not to only spam LA like releq

    3-4k for 1 backbar weapon is insane
    If This Iz Mispelld, I Totelly Mint to Due Tht.
  • Edziu
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    Edziu wrote: »
    Edziu wrote: »
    ccfeeling wrote: »
    There are too many garbage sets in the game, nerf relequen cannot fix the problem.

    End game players will still find out the best setup.

    Its not possible to nerf every meta set monthly.

    Zos has already killed NMG, sunnerflame in trial, almost all proc sets, enchancement next, not enough?


    but this nerf would open more doors than 1 with more viable sets
    we had more than single viable set for stam dd before releq release and what we have now? only releq or no dps, this is difference
    as someone was mentioned this before - no any set is giving you that huge dps boost like this (7k-10k) and if not this set then we could have option of atlaast 2-3 other sets to use instad of this 1 on every class

    Next it will be vma bow & staff. Get the nerf train rolling w/broad statements like this & watch what happens.

    and with it people are fine for yours now...but ofc there was also nerf for vma bow but master bow also is good option instead of vma so no need to nerf it that much
    these sets are taking single slots, just single weapon while not taking away our full set diversty and that huge difference like stupid relequen....
    how much difference in dps these items are making? 1k? 2k? 3? I doubt this is making more than 3k dps difference while perfected relequen can do up to even 10k and this is PROC SET while maelstrom dont even are close to proc sets..these are buffing single things which you need to use in combat to make use of them, not to only spam LA like releq

    3-4k for 1 backbar weapon is insane

    insnae is 10k difference from any other set in game locking you with this set if you want to be at good level, these backbars not that much and not always it is worth to use staff and vma bow can be replaced with master bow for single target while releqy have no any option to be replaced
    Pro Xp Waster Jaszcz - Khajiit stamina NB, DC EU PC 40AR -main char(no meta cancer build except monster set but its changing situationally)
    Lubisz to Suko - radiantspam repentanting T-bagging Cancerplar (obsolete, retired)
    Bury Zenek - master race Dunmer magdk tonk/dd, argonian slaver (obselote, retired)
    Twin Grakata - stamplar for fun after got sick of NB's meta(Blackrose Executioner)
    1.1k+CP on PC EU [] 28000+ Achievement points [] 2900+ Lorebuks doesnt care anymore about this as stopped play main char (pissed off gathering same achievs again and again...)
    370CP on PC NA (stamplar and stamablade lvled)
    retired from eso since morrowind, back after half of year for short time and again retired after summerset, back with cwc event idk for how long
    DD should gather red circles as many as can
  • Bigevilpeter
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    ccfeeling wrote: »
    Nerf relequen, AY, Siroria, SS, fair deal?

    Lets all farm again right?

    it doesnt have to be nerfed into oblivion m8 (even that would likle ybe the option ZOS would pick)
    I slight nerf to Relequen would not hurt, but make other sets more competitive in PVE

    TBH SS, and Siroria are very very niche sets IMO.

    Fights moving, and there's adds etc. they both become "underperforming" due to the DMG loss on minibosses or adds.
    BSW is the alternative and its already widely used in trials like vCR+x, or vAS +1 /+2. dont see the need for nerfs there tbh.
    Ofc they are strong in fight like vAA Mage, where the boss is jsut chilling, and nothing else needs hard focus.
    but the "problem" with relequen is, that it can bekept up 100% of the time, due to bows light attacks on ranged. never dropping those 8k dps

    Rele is niche too and inflated w/dummies like everything else.

    its still better than everything else in non optimal situations

    Right and it never should've been released, but... I don't think it should go away completely. What should happen is the proc should go away & should be changed to something w/slightly better damage than the next best set when filled in its place.

    Or increase the dmg from the proc and decrease its time active to 3 or 2 seconds to make it more niche & encourage tight weaving & less free dmg.

    Thats the biggest problem its basically free 7k dps just for light attacking, it doesnt need skill in or anything, a set can strong but should scale will player skill like sets that give weapon and spell damage etc.
  • Wolf_Watching
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    Edziu wrote: »
    Edziu wrote: »
    Edziu wrote: »
    ccfeeling wrote: »
    There are too many garbage sets in the game, nerf relequen cannot fix the problem.

    End game players will still find out the best setup.

    Its not possible to nerf every meta set monthly.

    Zos has already killed NMG, sunnerflame in trial, almost all proc sets, enchancement next, not enough?


    but this nerf would open more doors than 1 with more viable sets
    we had more than single viable set for stam dd before releq release and what we have now? only releq or no dps, this is difference
    as someone was mentioned this before - no any set is giving you that huge dps boost like this (7k-10k) and if not this set then we could have option of atlaast 2-3 other sets to use instad of this 1 on every class

    Next it will be vma bow & staff. Get the nerf train rolling w/broad statements like this & watch what happens.

    and with it people are fine for yours now...but ofc there was also nerf for vma bow but master bow also is good option instead of vma so no need to nerf it that much
    these sets are taking single slots, just single weapon while not taking away our full set diversty and that huge difference like stupid relequen....
    how much difference in dps these items are making? 1k? 2k? 3? I doubt this is making more than 3k dps difference while perfected relequen can do up to even 10k and this is PROC SET while maelstrom dont even are close to proc sets..these are buffing single things which you need to use in combat to make use of them, not to only spam LA like releq

    3-4k for 1 backbar weapon is insane

    insnae is 10k difference from any other set in game locking you with this set if you want to be at good level, these backbars not that much and not always it is worth to use staff and vma bow can be replaced with master bow for single target while releqy have no any option to be replaced

    Wheres my option for destro which is the exact def of a proc?
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  • Czekoludek
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    When this forum post becomed nerf stamblade post? About relequen, it completely destroyed diversity for stam. Mag have many valid options, siroria, ss, ms, bsw, acuity, scathing mage, ma, etc depends on your spec and type of fight. For single target for stam it is rele + almost always ay (ravager on stamplar maybe). For trash, we are so weak compared to mag, it's not even funny. Right now stam is better only on static fight with one boss, mag will perform the same or better in almost every other content.
    Yeah, nerfing stam penetration for one set for stam was perfect decision zos, gg
    Edited by Czekoludek on February 12, 2019 9:44AM
  • Daedric_NB_187
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    Posts like these are what makes me glad none of you are devs.
  • vesselwiththepestle
    In group dungeons I prefer VO.

    NMG is a great set in VMA, not on all classes, though. So I am thankful for the "nerf".

    Edit: Furthermore two new stamina sets incoming with Wrathstone! Being able to apply Minor Vulnerability with Stamina DPS is a really interesting option and will see its uses.
    Edited by vesselwiththepestle on February 12, 2019 9:57AM
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