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I think we need to listen to M'aiq more often
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Dragons are quadrupeds and none of the dragons in Skyrim or this upcoming expansion have 4 legs so yes they are Wyverns.Ebonheart Pact 4L
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✭✭✭✭@SomeDogsAreCops Dragons are fantasy creatures and nobody has ever seen them, so who gets the authority to decide what is a dragon and what isn't? The four-leggedness isn't as important as fire-breathing flying reptile in my opinion. Besides if Dwarves can be Elves and tall in the Elder Scrolls, then "Wyverns" are Dragons.This Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done. -
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✭Zeni could call them one-eyed-potatoes if they want. In this particular fantasy world, they happen to be called dragons.
You can call them whatever you want as well. You'd be wrong, but you can do it.
From now on, I will call them scaly sky fish. Try to tell me I can't. -
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✭✭✭✭✭Firstly that quote for M'aiq is great, but it would be so much better if he said "they must be hiding...elsewhere".
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JaZ2091✭✭✭✭✭@SomeDogsAreCops Dragons are fantasy creatures and nobody has ever seen them, so who gets the authority to decide what is a dragon and what isn't? The four-leggedness isn't as important as fire-breathing flying reptile in my opinion. Besides if Dwarves can be Elves and tall in the Elder Scrolls, then "Wyverns" are Dragons.
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✭✭✭✭✭I don't believe there is such a thing as a Wyvern in the Elder Scrolls. Why these things keep being brought up as if they exist at all in the lore is odd to me.
The Elder Scrolls is not a part of Dungeons and Dragons etc
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SomeDogsAreCops✭✭✭@SomeDogsAreCops Dragons are fantasy creatures and nobody has ever seen them, so who gets the authority to decide what is a dragon and what isn't? The four-leggedness isn't as important as fire-breathing flying reptile in my opinion. Besides if Dwarves can be Elves and tall in the Elder Scrolls, then "Wyverns" are Dragons.
Well for one all the ancient stories where dragons first made appearances were all 4 legged flying reptiles that breathe fire. Also the fact that the term "Wyvern" is specifically for two-legged dragons. So yes Elder Scrolls has Wyverns.@SomeDogsAreCops Dragons are fantasy creatures and nobody has ever seen them, so who gets the authority to decide what is a dragon and what isn't? The four-leggedness isn't as important as fire-breathing flying reptile in my opinion. Besides if Dwarves can be Elves and tall in the Elder Scrolls, then "Wyverns" are Dragons.
HERP DERP HERP I STUDIED THE DRAGONS IN BIOLOGY SO I KNOW WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT HERP DERP HERP I HAVE A DEGREE FYI.
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JaZ2091✭✭✭✭✭Jolipinator wrote: »SomeDogsAreCops wrote: »Yikes
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✭I am sorry. I thought with the smiley face people would see I was kidding. I just read that and it was what I would have replied to M'iaq just like how he says of some of his replies. I thought it was fitting, but I see I have erred.
Sorry original poster if I have derailed your thread that wasn't my intent at all.
I just love the stuff he comes up with. I always wondered if he gave out clues to what would be upcoming, and it seemed he did, at least once. Will be paying more attention to him next time I see him.
Not my quote but I love this saying
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✭✭✭✭✭Firstly that quote for M'aiq is great, but it would be so much better if he said "they must be hiding...elsewhere".
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Well, I kind of think the person you quoted was calling out Davor on misspelling the word wyverns.... so.... your post is - certainly not really relevant.
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Still irrelevant though.. this isn't Earth mythology, its a fantasy universe where the creators get to call it whatever the hell they want to call it.Edited by Caligamy_ESO on January 19, 2019 5:18AM"When you're in an Elder Scrolls game, you're in a world. We don't want players to hit monetization fees when they're in the world. It's like, I go into a dungeon, if I don't have access to the dungeon it pops up a window: you don't have access to this, go buy 50 credits. We didn't want that experience. That's not an Elder Scrolls experience." - Matt FirorMy not so Flawless vMA videos: Click Here
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Whoever thought that there was Wyverns in ESO clearly has lived a “Very. Sheltered. Life.” (Or just a downright D&D geek in the metaphorical opinion.)
Fun fact (for laughs): There’s dragons, then there are Flying scaly rats with wings.Edited by Skullstachio on January 19, 2019 5:51AMXbox LIVE: Skullstachio
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DBZVelena✭✭✭✭✭The whole Wyvern vs dragon debate is pointless imo. In ingame lore Wyvern is never used only dragon. On top of that of you actually research the dragon vs wyvern thing you'll find that the term dragon is far older than wyvern and it in history referred to all kinds of beasts. Some with 2, 4, none or even 6 legs. also not all of them had wings. Nor did they all breath fire or had scales.
What they did have in common was their use as scare tactic in the margins of texts. And considering those text are from a time not every or even most people could read... They are also found on maps to indicate the unknown alongside their sibling the sea serpent.
The term Wyvern was coined as a way to categorise the different forms of dragons in the text they were found in. The chimera btw is also from that batch of dragons.
In conclusion, the term dragon is kind of like the word cat. you can mean the common house cat and the 4 legged winged fire breathing scaly monster with it. but remember we call lions, tigers, panthers and such cat too. Does that mean they suddenly stopped being what they are? No!
In conclusion the creatures in skyrim and now ESO, are both Dragons AND wyverns. You lot can stop arguing now.What are Natch Potes? Can you eat those?
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Yamenstein✭✭✭✭SomeDogsAreCops wrote: »
Can you tell us when you saw this dragon and please point us to the studies that have been done on them as well? I would love to learn more from it. Also which zoo has dragons? Wouldn't mind checking them out
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aaisoaho✭✭✭✭Ah, I see some of you trapped in semantics trying to argue about dragons versus wyverns. It feels like some of you are mixing up the terms and terminology, so may I begin my argument by drawing an analogy to the real world?
"I don't see birds, I see penguins" Now, penguins are specialized form of birds, but they are birds anyways - just like wyverns are specialized form of dragons, but they are dragons anyways. Both words, birds and penguins, can be used when talking about penguins, but in some cases it is better to use the word penguin. (like if you're surprised to see penguins flying free in Dublin, it would not be surprising to see birds flying in Dublin, right?)
We all can agree that wyverns are two-legged dragons, right? So, wyverns are dragons. (all wyverns are dragons, but not all dragons are wyverns) Is it essential to the storytelling or setting to use the word wyvern or can we use the more generalized word dragon? I think there is nothing requiring us to use wyvern as the describing word, and that word dragon is sufficient for our needs when we're talking about them in the setting of Elsweyr/TES universe, and thus, itis correct to use both words and so it is not wrong to call them dragons.
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Well, I think we should not believe everything M'Aiq says. Yes, he can state some facts and tell some hints about the future, but some of his lines may never come true. If there are some other hints, then by all means, speculate about the things M'Aiq says. "an immobile clock is right twice a day" -
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That is wrong.SomeDogsAreCops wrote: »Well for one all the ancient stories where dragons first made appearances were all 4 legged flying reptiles that breathe fire.
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Cloudless✭✭✭✭✭Sylvermynx wrote: »SomeDogsAreCops wrote: »
Well, I kind of think the person you quoted was calling out Davor on misspelling the word wyverns.... so.... your post is - certainly not really relevant.
Thank you so much for being the first and apparently only one in this thread to realize that. :'
