MartiniDaniels wrote: »You know the reason, this is done so you may clearly see where to switch.
Lets compare the PvE damage racial bonuses of Altmer to other similar races.
Redguard - 2000 Stam + Major Sustain bonuses
Breton - 2000 Mag + Major Sustain bonuses
Orc - 254 weapon damage + 500 Stam + Moderate sustain bonuses
Dunmer - 1250 Mag/Stam + 254 weapon/spell damage
Khajiit - 750 Mag/Stam + 8% Spell/Weap crit + Negligible sustain bonuses
We can see a pattern here that you either get a full 2000 Resource with Major sustain bonuses or other combat bonuses with lesser resources.
Then comes Altmer - 2000 Mag + 254 spell damage + Moderate sustain bonuses
From a PvE DPS point of view, it is clear that Altmer has relatively far better DPS passive than other race having both a full single resource passive as well as a full 254 weapon damage bonus. Altmer's Mag bonus needs to be dropped to 1000-1500 to be balanced with other races.
Lets compare the PvE damage racial bonuses of Altmer to other similar races.
Redguard - 2000 Stam + Major Sustain bonuses
Breton - 2000 Mag + Major Sustain bonuses
Orc - 254 weapon damage + 500 Stam + Moderate sustain bonuses
Dunmer - 1250 Mag/Stam + 254 weapon/spell damage
Khajiit - 750 Mag/Stam + 8% Spell/Weap crit + Negligible sustain bonuses
We can see a pattern here that you either get a full 2000 Resource with Major sustain bonuses or other combat bonuses with lesser resources.
Then comes Altmer - 2000 Mag + 254 spell damage + Moderate sustain bonuses
From a PvE DPS point of view, it is clear that Altmer has relatively far better DPS passive than other race having both a full single resource passive as well as a full 254 weapon damage bonus. Altmer's Mag bonus needs to be dropped to 1000-1500 to be balanced with other races.
kypranb14_ESO wrote: »I think it's fine to be honest, and I won't be playing one because I think Altmer are fugly.
I think it's fine because Breton Magicka sustain is going to be "overpowered" by comparison. So while building an Altmer, you might have to build a bit of extra sustain into your build. While building a Breton you might have to build a little extra damage into your build.
Lets compare the PvE damage racial bonuses of Altmer to other similar races.
Redguard - 2000 Stam + Major Sustain bonuses
Breton - 2000 Mag + Major Sustain bonuses
Orc - 254 weapon damage + 500 Stam + Moderate sustain bonuses
Dunmer - 1250 Mag/Stam + 254 weapon/spell damage
Khajiit - 750 Mag/Stam + 8% Spell/Weap crit + Negligible sustain bonuses
We can see a pattern here that you either get a full 2000 Resource with Major sustain bonuses or other combat bonuses with lesser resources.
Then comes Altmer - 2000 Mag + 254 spell damage + Moderate sustain bonuses
From a PvE DPS point of view, it is clear that Altmer has relatively far better DPS passive than other race having both a full single resource passive as well as a full 254 weapon damage bonus. Altmer's Mag bonus needs to be dropped to 1000-1500 to be balanced with other races.
Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »MartiniDaniels wrote: »You know the reason, this is done so you may clearly see where to switch.
Aren't most endgame PvE magicka DPS builds already altmer? If ZOS designed these racials to make everyone use as many tokens as possible, wouldn't they make a different race BIS?
Lets compare the PvE damage racial bonuses of Altmer to other similar races.
Redguard - 2000 Stam + Major Sustain bonuses
Breton - 2000 Mag + Major Sustain bonuses
Orc - 254 weapon damage + 500 Stam + Moderate sustain bonuses
Dunmer - 1250 Mag/Stam + 254 weapon/spell damage
Khajiit - 750 Mag/Stam + 8% Spell/Weap crit + Negligible sustain bonuses
We can see a pattern here that you either get a full 2000 Resource with Major sustain bonuses or other combat bonuses with lesser resources.
Then comes Altmer - 2000 Mag + 254 spell damage + Moderate sustain bonuses
From a PvE DPS point of view, it is clear that Altmer has relatively far better DPS passive than other race having both a full single resource passive as well as a full 254 weapon damage bonus. Altmer's Mag bonus needs to be dropped to 1000-1500 to be balanced with other races.
To be clear I really like and agree with the new racial changes. They are not perfect but absolutly in the right direction and close.
However the High Elves and specifically Mage ones have always been their favored child and always will be. I have just come to accept and expect this. Makes things easier.
david_m_18b16_ESO wrote: »Well ESO try to be 2 thing at the same times.
A full RP MMO and a min/max game.
It just won't works. Racial always been far form beeing balanced in this game but usualy MMO's tend to rotate the best race/class/skill etc.
But for altmer they always been the go to race for at leats magicka characters. I am happy that I have re-rolled my sorc from dummer to alt when he was low level years ago.
Love the way Bosmer doesn't even get a mention, lol.
That says it all.
validifyedneb18_ESO wrote: »The way they balanced the new passives was clever and commendable. Using the so called "set value".
The problem is, a dd set can have +health and be rendered useless. Sure that 1k health is "1 set value" but its also not useful for people wanting to DD.
You see a similar thing with all the passives, while Altmers only "subtraction" is the 5% DR on a cast. Unneeded and wasted set value but a very small amount compared to say; Dunmer being completely split with maxstat and damages, and getting large flame damage resist and burning immunity. Leaving Dunmer comparatively *** for mag DD.
I like the racial changes though, hopefully a few tweaks while its on the PTR and it will be just fine.
Lets compare the PvE damage racial bonuses of Altmer to other similar races.
Redguard - 2000 Stam + Major Sustain bonuses
Breton - 2000 Mag + Major Sustain bonuses
Orc - 254 weapon damage + 500 Stam + Moderate sustain bonuses
Dunmer - 1250 Mag/Stam + 254 weapon/spell damage
Khajiit - 750 Mag/Stam + 8% Spell/Weap crit + Negligible sustain bonuses
We can see a pattern here that you either get a full 2000 Resource with Major sustain bonuses or other combat bonuses with lesser resources.
Then comes Altmer - 2000 Mag + 254 spell damage + Moderate sustain bonuses
From a PvE DPS point of view, it is clear that Altmer has relatively far better DPS passive than other race having both a full single resource passive as well as a full 254 weapon damage bonus. Altmer's Mag bonus needs to be dropped to 1000-1500 to be balanced with other races.
Lets compare the PvE damage racial bonuses of Altmer to other similar races.
Redguard - 2000 Stam + Major Sustain bonuses
Breton - 2000 Mag + Major Sustain bonuses
Orc - 254 weapon damage + 500 Stam + Moderate sustain bonuses
Dunmer - 1250 Mag/Stam + 254 weapon/spell damage
Khajiit - 750 Mag/Stam + 8% Spell/Weap crit + Negligible sustain bonuses
We can see a pattern here that you either get a full 2000 Resource with Major sustain bonuses or other combat bonuses with lesser resources.
Then comes Altmer - 2000 Mag + 254 spell damage + Moderate sustain bonuses
From a PvE DPS point of view, it is clear that Altmer has relatively far better DPS passive than other race having both a full single resource passive as well as a full 254 weapon damage bonus. Altmer's Mag bonus needs to be dropped to 1000-1500 to be balanced with other races.
Lets compare the PvE damage racial bonuses of Altmer to other similar races.
Redguard - 2000 Stam + Major Sustain bonuses
Breton - 2000 Mag + Major Sustain bonuses
Orc - 254 weapon damage + 500 Stam + Moderate sustain bonuses
Dunmer - 1250 Mag/Stam + 254 weapon/spell damage
Khajiit - 750 Mag/Stam + 8% Spell/Weap crit + Negligible sustain bonuses
We can see a pattern here that you either get a full 2000 Resource with Major sustain bonuses or other combat bonuses with lesser resources.
Then comes Altmer - 2000 Mag + 254 spell damage + Moderate sustain bonuses
From a PvE DPS point of view, it is clear that Altmer has relatively far better DPS passive than other race having both a full single resource passive as well as a full 254 weapon damage bonus. Altmer's Mag bonus needs to be dropped to 1000-1500 to be balanced with other races.
This is very short sighted!
Altmer might have additional spell damage, but breton for example got 3 times the regen of Altmer, which means they can afford more spell damage on gear.