Xanmeer Lakehouse price proves ESO is Healthy.

zyk

You can buy 2 new AAA games for the same price. It's obviously absurd. I would not even remotely consider this game if I did not play it already.

juttaa77b16_ESO

nope

When I see this price I immediately think no way no matter how nice the item is. I could afford it, and 10 others like it in a snap, but I won't buy it because it's overpriced. I don't see the value per Euro I'd like to see for this or a lot of their other homes and items. I also sometimes think ZOS either doesn't really want to sell many of these homes or items and/or whoever is in charge of marketing these items possibly doesn't understand the potential benefit of selling these in bulk at much, much lower prices. A 10% or 20% reduction of some item which is 5-10 times over a reasonable price already isn't much of a reduction to average people. A lot of these items just aren't set at reasonable prices for a digital game item. I'm sure there are some people who might buy this home, but I'm also sure many more people would buy them if they were much less expensive, and of course if they were into buying those sorts of items. to each his own. This is just imho.

MasterSpatula

Davor wrote: »

MasterSpatula wrote: »

prices are too steep.

No, not at all. I said it before and I will gladly say it again. This is just Zenimax telling us their game is worthless. Doesn't matter how much money you invest in the game, doesn't matter how much blood, sweat and tears went into making this game and expansions, it's still worthless when they put out a $150 house.

Non of this "market will bear what it will" or "Zenimax will see how much they can get away with". When you are selling something that costs you millions to make and sell it for 12 bucks, you are saying your product is worthless because you are selling it so cheap. So since the house takes less money to make, less people and time do make as well, it's worth more because you need to pay more.

So yeah, Zenimax is pricing it properly. They are just saying their game is worthless, and in it doesn't mean very much at all since they can rely on the big purchases. Just surprised they just don't go full out free to play.

So sad how Zenimax and Bethesda publishing really thinks of their games. All that hard work for nothing really.

Well, I guess I can't argue with that, ummmmm.... logic?

Latios

other

If the post was a little more serious, I'd pick a proper answer.

As for the pricing, it's exactly why I'll never buy a house in this game.

My dream house is the Observatory prior, but... it'll remain a dream.

Jameliel

other

It means the investors and management's accounts are healthy. They are making hundreds of thousands of dollars and probably millions from selling houses. Add in subscription fees, cosmetics, crates, random crown sales, dlcs etc. Imagine you randomly get 100 highly sought after motifs. You post them up for just 50k each and watch your gold accumulate. They are doing this on a much larger scale with the same data/pixels, and accumulating massive amounts of real currency. All the while keeping expenditures as low as possible.

Sylvermynx

other

Truthfully, any given company or individual can charge anything they wish for a piece of merchandise, whether physical or digital.

It is up to each individual potential buyer as to whether the asking price seems logical for the merchandise. That hasn't changed in thousands of years....

What HAS changed in those intervening centuries - is the speed of the medium which provides "at sale" information.

Do with it what you will.

Kiralyn2000

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Tigerseye wrote: »

That's why it should be somewhere in between.

Should be about $40 (or $25, assumuing someone bought their Crowns on sale).

Then they would probably sell about 10 (going by your example) and make $400, rather than $150.

Honestly, I don't think so. The people willing to pay $150 for a house are obviously also willing to pay $40. But I think that most of the people who won't pay 150? Also won't pay 40. They'd likely only gain a small % additional sales.


And I'm pretty sure they have data that shows this.
(personally, I wasn't even willing to pay for the Winter house. The houses I've bought, I used gold for; I can't imagine ever paying $ for one. Even $10 for a small one.)

SiAScORCH

nope

Honestly the houses and mounts are always overpriced. I didn't plan on getting into any housing and the only reason I did was because of the free housing.

Korah_Eaglecry

generalmyrick wrote: »

Doesn't the price of the xanmeer lakehouse prove that eso is healthy? I mean 150 dollars worth the crowns? WOW!

Are you trying to say that greed is a sign of desperation? Because I feel like you might need some more exposure to the outside world experiences if thats the case.

reguvin

yeap

150 dollars for a virtual house? are you kidding me.

victory.immortalb16_ESO

other

Well 21k crowns were recently £66 or so, that's $85.

So 15k crowns around $60 (or £47)

I always stock up on crowns when they are heavily discounted- plan ahead and never pay full price for them, as well as getting the ESO sub crowns too.

Is the house 'worth' it? Depends on whether you think it's worth $60 (or as some seem to calculate $150...no idea how).

Houses aren't essential or even needed, so if you think it's too much don't get it.

Minyassa

other

It proves they know they have some players who will buy it at a ridiculous price to have it right away, so they're willing to put it out at an absurd price for a year or so, and the rest of us normies can pick it up on sale at Xmas.

wenchmore420b14_ESO

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

generalmyrick wrote: »

Doesn't the price of the xanmeer lakehouse prove that eso is healthy? I mean 150 dollars worth the crowns? WOW!

Are you trying to say that greed is a sign of desperation? Because I feel like you might need some more exposure to the outside world experiences if thats the case.

Agree. I don't think that Zo$ is desperate, but with the Bethesda Fallot76 fail and lawsuits, and direction all the new IP's are going, I bet Zenimax Media is at least a little worried. Robert A. Altman needs to remember this.....\

“When the people that can make the company more successful are sales and marketing people, they end up running the companies. The product people get driven out of the decision making forums, and the companies forget what it means to make great products.”

Davor

zyk wrote: »

You can buy 2 new AAA games for the same price. It's obviously absurd. I would not even remotely consider this game if I did not play it already.

Just like Games Workshop. Lots of people don't leave because they invested too much money, too much time and invested emotionally as well. Like I have been saying Zenimax is following GW old bad habbits and it will bite them sooner or later. Maybe sooner since it seems gamers are not going to take it any more.

RedTalon

yeap

The latest noble house is one of the better put together ones in art and b background work, so well worth the price, had been saving for it and figured the price would be umped for the extra detail

I mainly buy houses in areas I need transport to and often do herb hunting and resoujrce gatheirng in, so sometimes the more remote the better

I'm on the poor side of life so have to be careful which ones I save for, but since ESO is the only online game I play currently its not an issue.

Wolfshead

nope

how can people think it is overpriced sure if only going to buy the house with RL money sure it maybe overprice but what think is must funny about this post and some answer is that you buy all house in this game for in-game money I don't know about you people but have close to almost 1.1 million gold in my bank that lay around to no use at all and if people are too lazy to craft furniture or buy furniture in-game then ofc it go feel overprice house with furniture in it but again I don't see point to have more than 1 house honest who have time run around in all their house then so much else to do in-game

RedTalon

yeap

Wolfshead wrote: »

how can people think it is overpriced sure if only going to buy the house with RL money sure it maybe overprice but what think is must funny about this post and some answer is that you buy all house in this game for in-game money I don't know about you people but have close to almost 1.1 million gold in my bank that lay around to no use at all and if people are too lazy to craft furniture or buy furniture in-game then ofc it go feel overprice house with furniture in it but again I don't see point to have more than 1 house honest who have time run around in all their house then so much else to do in-game

Some of the houses are in good spots, like my first house is right around the corner from one of the ww shrines and like to give ww bites out for free and also good spots for herb collections are near by to boot, free transportion and such to spots I often go to factor into my house buying among other things.

Everything is about location,. location!

Nyladreas

nope

Hoh Lee Shiz, no F-Ing way. Did ZOS pay you to post this?

Tigerseye

nope

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

Tigerseye wrote: »

That's why it should be somewhere in between.

Should be about $40 (or $25, assumuing someone bought their Crowns on sale).

Then they would probably sell about 10 (going by your example) and make $400, rather than $150.

Honestly, I don't think so. The people willing to pay $150 for a house are obviously also willing to pay $40. But I think that most of the people who won't pay 150? Also won't pay 40. They'd likely only gain a small % additional sales.


And I'm pretty sure they have data that shows this.
(personally, I wasn't even willing to pay for the Winter house. The houses I've bought, I used gold for; I can't imagine ever paying $ for one. Even $10 for a small one.)

I have bought houses (including the Snowglobe, somewhat reluctantly).

I would pay $40, but I wouldn't pay $150.

I probably paid around $75 for the Hew's Bane Palace (as I bought the Crowns on sale), but that was prior to realising just how low the furnishing cap was, once you had managed to light it (somewhat) properly.

So, it felt worth it, at the time and hey, it's a palace.

For this place?

$40 would be my limit (hopefully $25, if I bought the Crowns on sale).

I, honestly, think $40 is far closer to most people's idea of a reasonable price.

Almost no one is going to think $150 is OK - unless they are a millionaire, or are buying it with saved-up Crowns from ESO+, or a combination of ESO+ Crowns and sale price Crowns.

Having said that, I do know two people who bought it with non saved-up, sale price Crowns.

So, they paid about $90 for it, each.

That's assuming it really is $150 at full Crown price?

Tigerseye

nope

Wolfshead wrote: »

how can people think it is overpriced sure if only going to buy the house with RL money sure it maybe overprice but what think is must funny about this post and some answer is that you buy all house in this game for in-game money I don't know about you people but have close to almost 1.1 million gold in my bank that lay around to no use at all and if people are too lazy to craft furniture or buy furniture in-game then ofc it go feel overprice house with furniture in it but again I don't see point to have more than 1 house honest who have time run around in all their house then so much else to do in-game

You can only buy this house with Crowns, though.

You can't buy it with gold.

Same with some of the others, lately.

Also, 1.1 million is very little, in this game.

Unless you mean you only have that left, because you have already bought all the houses you can buy with gold, or most of them?

Otherwise, that will buy you one decent sized house, like the Alinor Crest Townhouse (for example) and then you're going to be broke again for a while.

I have 34 homes (although, only one Notable).

The vast majority of those homes I bought with gold.

I have also spent millions of gold on furnishings (mainly on blueprints and furnishing mats).

It's an expensive hobby, whichever way you look at it, because time=money.

Whether you use your precious time to earn a lot of gold; or spend the time you would have, otherwise, spent earning gold to make real money, to buy the houses.

Either way, it's not going to be cheap, if you do want more than one.

...and of course, people who enjoy furnishing generally will want more than one.

Tigerseye

nope

EmEm_Oh wrote: »

15K for a home. Ok. All this means is the home will probably be unique due to few people buying it. That's ok, too. If you have the money, you'll want to know few people are going to own this home.

I enjoy housing, so I want as many people as possible to enjoy it, too.

This isn't like buying flashy mounts, which everyone can see, all the time, around the world - houses don't really have that kind of cachet, in games like this.

You don't even see them, unless you make an effort to go to them, for a start.

Also, with a few notable exceptions, most men/boys don't seem to really care too much about housing and furnishing, in my experience.

They might like to make a fun outdoor area, or build a vehicle out of Dwarven pipes or whatever; but, most don't take real pleasure in interior design.

Most of the time, not many people even see your house and even if they do, many newer players don't really appreciate (and/or care) just how much money, gold and/or sheer time and effort you have normally put in.

So, I think it's fair to say that most people do housing for the love of it; not to show it off, or to flaunt their wealth, or the "exclusivity" of their digital purchases.

As there are far more effective ways of doing that, if that is what you want to do.

wenchmore420b14_ESO

Tigerseye wrote: »

Wolfshead wrote: »

how can people think it is overpriced sure if only going to buy the house with RL money sure it maybe overprice but what think is must funny about this post and some answer is that you buy all house in this game for in-game money I don't know about you people but have close to almost 1.1 million gold in my bank that lay around to no use at all and if people are too lazy to craft furniture or buy furniture in-game then ofc it go feel overprice house with furniture in it but again I don't see point to have more than 1 house honest who have time run around in all their house then so much else to do in-game

You can only buy this house with Crowns, though.

You can't buy it with gold.

Same with some of the others, lately.

Also, 1.1 million is very little, in this game.

Unless you mean you only have that left, because you have already bought all the houses you can buy with gold, or most of them?

Otherwise, that will buy you one decent sized house, like the Alinor Crest Townhouse (for example) and then you're going to be broke again for a while.

I have 34 homes (although, only one Notable).

The vast majority of those homes I bought with gold.

I have also spent millions of gold on furnishings (mainly on blueprints and furnishing mats).

It's an expensive hobby, whichever way you look at it, because time=money.

Whether you use your precious time to earn a lot of gold; or spend the time you would have, otherwise, spent earning gold to make real money, to buy the houses.

Either way, it's not going to be cheap, if you do want more than one.

...and of course, people who enjoy furnishing generally will want more than one.

+1 and very true... ^^^^
And to add my 2 drakes.
I have the Ebonheart Chateau I paid $120 RL to have as a Guild Hall for my guild.
Since then, I have gotten the "free" Psijic one, the manor in Gold Coast, and several of the free inns just for TP spots and 2 or 3 others. I use them for "Digital Storage Units" because of the over abundance of "stuff", ( i.e. Luxury vendor items, one time bundles, limited items, new furnishings every DLC, etc)
I was SOOO hyped when Housing was released!!
But, the "Housing Limit" has ruined me on housing as much as the continual rising in prices and blatant marketing schemes related to Housing.
I still farm writs for vouchers to put new tables and such into our hall, and have to remove something to do it.
My big problem is how Zo$ keeps milking us without up-grading what we have. They just want us to spend more, blindly, for their continuing up-priced fluff.
Yes, the house OP mentioned is over priced. And limited to having to use RL $ to acquire.
I love ESO but it is these "business decisions and tactics that make me re-think our relationship..

“When the people that can make the company more successful are sales and marketing people, they end up running the companies. The product people get driven out of the decision making forums, and the companies forget what it means to make great products.”

Thevampirenight

Its a house I am interested in but costs way to much. I don't think any mmo company should be allowed to sell in game items like that one for over 100 dollars maybe less then 100 dollars but not over it. I know they need to make money but well I don't think they should do it with way overpriced housing that shouldn't cost more then 5000, 6800 crowns. I like the job they have done in putting it all together, but what I would like to see is these homes all being able to be bought with gold even if it costs ten million gold coins to get. I do think there does need to be some regulations when it comes to mmo in game microtransactions when it comes to pricing thigns. I do think its gotten out of hand but well they are better then other mmos and they do care about the game and its players and its roleplayers thats a plus . Plus they have an excellent team. We are getting dragons and necromancers. Buying crowns gets you more for your purchase with a 50 dollar steam card because they are at 39,99 with the new internet state taxes add on 3.36 that would be 43.35 which is still cheaper then say buying zen. From Cryptic. So at least they don't charge as much and do have lower prices for buying crowns. So compared to other companies they are not as greedy but the crown store pricing is still way to high for my liking. It use to be they might not have been as caring as much about the money but then they moved into more and more into the practice. I forgive them for it as we shouldn't really judge them after all most of them are for sure good people. Just hope things can be done that can help stop horrid price gouging. All we can do is hope.

Zathras

other

juttaa77b16_ESO wrote: »

When I see this price I immediately think no way no matter how nice the item is. I could afford it, and 10 others like it in a snap, but I won't buy it because it's overpriced.

That's the thing. There are a lot of people with disposable incomes, but we're not idiots. It's like offering a creampuff for $100. It's obviously not worth that amount, but the price point and marketing try to make it seem like an exclusive, luxury item.

Being able to afford something, and not paying the asking price, are two points the monetizing team seem to be overlooking. Their team is missing the mark, at their loss.

FYI, there is a similar house in EQ2 which (I believe) they drew inspiration from. Vast house interior, with a massive underwater view. I *think* it ran for somewhere in the $40-60 range, but no more than that.