Imperial City will be changed into a Campaign (Oh my god)

Kagukan

Seems like a great change to me. Should have been separate from the start.

BaylorCorvette

This is a fantastic change.

Durham

Beardimus wrote: »

reguvin wrote: »

I have been waiting years for Imperial City to get an update.

They are removing Imperial City from Cyrodiil and making it a Campaign.


Amazing news for Imperial City lovers like me.

I'm keen as think it will help pop. I'd have preferred it properly integrated into Cyrodiil rather than the hybrid its been but this is a close second.

How many versions do we think? CP and noCP i hope

noCP why ? It will be dead across all playforms except a few running around in NA PC .... It will be CP if not your killing it off the bat...

Ohhgrizyyy

TheRealPotoroo wrote: »

But will it still be a PVE/PVP hybrid? If it is I'm still not interested.

How is that a bad thing? PvE hardly ever interferes

TheRealPotoroo

Ohhgrizyyy wrote: »

TheRealPotoroo wrote: »

But will it still be a PVE/PVP hybrid? If it is I'm still not interested.

How is that a bad thing? PvE hardly ever interferes

All I care about are quests. Getting ganked by some PVP scumbag I never see and cannot defend against is my idea of Hell. It's hideous, awful and indefensible.

Tan9oSuccka

This is a good change.

Slack

Hope they disable Alliances there

kojou

I am hyped about this change. I think it will be a very positive change.

clocksstoppe

Sarousse wrote: »

Nice idea but why would PvPers go more in IC if nothing changes inside ?

Money. On the contrary, why would you go to cyrodiil if it's so laggy and a potion burn and a horse running simulator?

Irylia

j.greenmanb16_ESO wrote: »

TheRealPotoroo wrote: »

But will it still be a PVE/PVP hybrid? If it is I'm still not interested.

I doubt they will be changing the fundamentals of what it is, simply relocating it for 1. Ease of Access and 2. Lower lag issues in Cyrodiil

Actually ic in cyro is an instanced zone and the performance in ic is aside from that of its cyro counterpart.
What this change will do is consolidate all 4 campaign ic players into one
-makes it more lively
-the population space that ic players take in a campaign will now be given to players who can add to the war.
This means more players in cyro.
Which could mean more fights on the map especially with all the extra objectives they are adding to cyro.

BNOC

I like the fact that they're touching IC - Though I don't believe this is the best implementation.

• PVE and money making (best in the game) pretty much dies if zergs make their way into IC.
• Console only has a couple of campaigns so won't necessarily be more lively - I can currently be down IC on any of those campaigns and I'm lucky to run into 3 people all night - You get much quicker and more enjoyable action in a BG.
• It's going to revert to the point it was before where players are fighting in districts and the noobs are standing on top of their base in safe spots, sniping and whatever else - Nobody wants that except for those players.

With that:

• Cap group sizes in there - PLEASE DO NOT LET 20+ MAN GROUPS EXIST. 10 at most.
• Unfavourable: Make it a no-CP zone and adjust mob values for farming - IC is small scale and small scale is better suited to no-CP imo.
• Extend the safe zone 'protection' to cover the entire of the top of a base. As is, they are basically free LOS zones for bad players who would only attack you when you were in combat.
• Don't add campaign buffs.
• Need new incentives to go there as telvar gain (the sole reason people go there currently) is completely dead with this change.
  • Maybe Telvar bonuses can apply to the sewers below a given district (2x max instead of 4x), just section it out using the doors as boundaries. I.E. Arboretum may apply until the first door in the yellow sewer and from that point on Temple's bonuses will take over until the centre ring - With the same all flags bonus being applied throughout the sewers.
  • Maybe something for the more experienced and daring of players - 50k Stones bagged = 6* multiplier, 100k = 7* or something.
  • More gear / Supplies available for telvar (Food, pots, raw mats etc)

I'd also like to see the Telvar requirement for Imperial Physique changed to 25k.
It's a massive boost to stats and 25k is currently less than 2 bosses worth at a 4*, which is under 10 minutes solo.

Brutusmax1mus

reguvin wrote: »

FierceSam wrote: »

It’s a great idea.

If they can successfully separate the PvP and PvE elements, this could totally rejuvenate IC and have benefits for Cyrodiil

Interesting quest line in the sewers leading up to death of Big Boss for PvE

Massive bunfights in the city for the PvPers.

And hopefully the hunting down to extinction of all tankers

What could possibly go wrong?

Don't forget that the lag will be gone because it's different campaign.

Lol you're fooling yourself if you think that

Zathras

reguvin wrote: »

I have been waiting years for Imperial City to get an update.

They are removing Imperial City from Cyrodiil and making it a Campaign.


Amazing news for Imperial City lovers like me.

Agree. I'll dip my toes in once this happens. It will be more like Darkness Falls in that regard.

What I would love to see is an increase in desirable gear/other incentives to make people really want to go there.

JackAshes

My guess is they will do a CP, Non CP and under 50 instances. I hope they increase the Telvar drop rates to by 50% not quite event lvl but enough were risk/reward is still profitable because they will be evaporating faster than ever with double to triple current populations. Adding a leaderboard with decent rewards will also drive population. Make the board a mix of Telvar Acquired from player kills and AP from kills and flags I think would be the best way to do it. So you can’t just NPC farm your way to the top!

Skander

Should be less lag, so good

Casdha

The way I took what they said is basically they are going to have a different way to travel to IC and the Alliance campaigns will not be keeping track of who is in there and who is not. The PvP element is not changing.

Katahdin

At least it will stop the complaining over the 5 people in IC causing such a HUGE imbalance to the overland Cyrodiil population.

Qbiken

For the love of god, do not make IC no-cp, will kill it completely. And keep the mixed pve/pvp atmosphere, it´s what makes the zone fun and unique.

PhxOldGamer68

Cyro before IC was a lot better. More fights because half the population was not in the sewers. Being gated with 3 bars never fun.

reguvin

PhxOldGamer68 wrote: »

Cyro before IC was a lot better. More fights because half the population was not in the sewers. Being gated with 3 bars never fun.

No it was not better.

IC made it better until the patch changed IC.

Red_Feather

I hope that making imperial city seperate means they can do interesting stuff to keep the city fresh. Like weekly global combat modifiers to change the meta while in imperial city! Maybe a low gravity week too. A no revive week. So many things can be done to make it a crazy fun pvp game mode.

reguvin

Red_Feather wrote: »

I hope that making imperial city seperate means they can do interesting stuff to keep the city fresh. Like weekly global combat modifiers to change the meta while in imperial city! Maybe a low gravity week too. A no revive week. So many things can be done to make it a crazy fun pvp game mode.

I hope so too

reguvin

BNOC wrote: »

I like the fact that they're touching IC - Though I don't believe this is the best implementation.

• PVE and money making (best in the game) pretty much dies if zergs make their way into IC.
• Console only has a couple of campaigns so won't necessarily be more lively - I can currently be down IC on any of those campaigns and I'm lucky to run into 3 people all night - You get much quicker and more enjoyable action in a BG.
• It's going to revert to the point it was before where players are fighting in districts and the noobs are standing on top of their base in safe spots, sniping and whatever else - Nobody wants that except for those players.

With that:

• Cap group sizes in there - PLEASE DO NOT LET 20+ MAN GROUPS EXIST. 10 at most.
• Unfavourable: Make it a no-CP zone and adjust mob values for farming - IC is small scale and small scale is better suited to no-CP imo.
• Extend the safe zone 'protection' to cover the entire of the top of a base. As is, they are basically free LOS zones for bad players who would only attack you when you were in combat.
• Don't add campaign buffs.
• Need new incentives to go there as telvar gain (the sole reason people go there currently) is completely dead with this change.
  • Maybe Telvar bonuses can apply to the sewers below a given district (2x max instead of 4x), just section it out using the doors as boundaries. I.E. Arboretum may apply until the first door in the yellow sewer and from that point on Temple's bonuses will take over until the centre ring - With the same all flags bonus being applied throughout the sewers.
  • Maybe something for the more experienced and daring of players - 50k Stones bagged = 6* multiplier, 100k = 7* or something.
  • More gear / Supplies available for telvar (Food, pots, raw mats etc)

I'd also like to see the Telvar requirement for Imperial Physique changed to 25k.
It's a massive boost to stats and 25k is currently less than 2 bosses worth at a 4*, which is under 10 minutes solo.

Wow thats a long explanation

NBrookus

I hope it's a single campaign, and that means no CP. While I prefer CP, you can't mix the two pops together without low CP players being at a huge disadvantage. At most, one CP and one no CP campaign. If there are too many, IC will remain an underpopulated farming zone.

ATomiX96

potion prices go up, but more PvP and action in IC, you cant always have a WIN/WIN situation: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

DemonDruaga

And here I always hoped they would open the bridges and make the IC accesable in the same zone like cyrodiil. Well.. will make at least a lot of crafters happy that don't have acces to the set stations

reguvin

NBrookus wrote: »

I hope it's a single campaign, and that means no CP. While I prefer CP, you can't mix the two pops together without low CP players being at a huge disadvantage. At most, one CP and one no CP campaign. If there are too many, IC will remain an underpopulated farming zone.

yeah would be a good start to have only 1 campaign first and then when its over populated maybe add another one

El_Borracho

DemonDruaga wrote: »

And here I always hoped they would open the bridges and make the IC accesable in the same zone like cyrodiil. Well.. will make at least a lot of crafters happy that don't have acces to the set stations

You might be the only person who liked the death run across the map trying to get into the IC from Cyrodiil. F%$#@ing dying when almost there, only to have then run halfway across the map was miserable. Can't believe this change has taken this long

firedrgn

When ic first came out. It was a a huge deal i remember being in there with the guild anthem.

There was so much action. Then a patch or something and nothing.

Silver_Strider

firedrgn wrote: »

When ic first came out. It was a a huge deal i remember being in there with the guild anthem.

There was so much action. Then a patch or something and nothing.

They added the flag capture mechanic and ruined IC since it effectively added 1-2 load screens if you died in a conflict, depending on if you controlled the district or not. It turned the fast paced, non-stop combat of IC into the ghost town we have today