Let DKs Leap onto Keeps again

IAVITNI

Would fix Leap issues with elevation and give them strong identity in PvP besides block tanking. Also would be really cool and add new dynamics to sieges

Draxys

/sign

Give us back our fun now that super tanks can’t also kill people

Vapirko

Tbh it wouldn’t be used to add new elements to sieges. It would be used by people leaping up to guards so they could take keeps with one less PvDoor. Guaranteed there would be whole groups of DKs doing this.

leeux

I loved the adrenaline of having to repel a jumping DK back in the day, it made defenses more interesting, and it always made me laugh of seeing the flying DK jumping towards the battlements when I was on an attack

Man, so much fun stuff has been removed from the game, it's so sad

Koolio

Or off

Grampa_Smurf

This was fun, If they were so worried about keeps been capped from the inside if DK jumped over, just make it so a keep can't be taken unless an outside wall - door was taken down first. Also make it that if you do jump to outside walls while it is under attack you are also affected by friendly fire

Calboy

Why zos would remove such a FUN feature is beyond me

Conduit0

Vapirko wrote: »

Tbh it wouldn’t be used to add new elements to sieges. It would be used by people leaping up to guards so they could take keeps with one less PvDoor. Guaranteed there would be whole groups of DKs doing this.

Myabe they could add a check to see if the target is a player, so if its a player you can leap up to them, but if its an NPC you can not.

Vapirko

Conduit0 wrote: »

Vapirko wrote: »

Tbh it wouldn’t be used to add new elements to sieges. It would be used by people leaping up to guards so they could take keeps with one less PvDoor. Guaranteed there would be whole groups of DKs doing this.

Myabe they could add a check to see if the target is a player, so if its a player you can leap up to them, but if its an NPC you can not.

I wouldn’t be against it if I wasn’t sure people would be out exploiting it for AP. That’s all anyone cares about anymore, it’s not about fun PvP, it’s about farming AP. I have no problem with it if it could be implemented that way. Hell, you can make meteors reflectable again while you’re at it.

Weps

That could spice up sieges again.
Right now is all about take one wall down and whichever alliance can bring enough men to the siege to get past the infinite size of their meatbags / oil / caltrops / scattershot they lay down on the breach.

We're living in magical middle age and yet we don't have technological discoveries like towers and ramps.
That's fair, then let's make DKs the assaulting commando that can create mayhem behind the walls of the enemy

Joy_Division

Only got nerfed because bad PvPers whined when they were incapable of killing a dragonknight who just blew its ultimate.

NBrookus

Leaping into keeps disrupting the countersiege line was the most pvp fun in this game ever on DK. And it made ineffectual light attack pew pew from the walls unsafe.

It was also usually a death sentence.

Feanor

Joy_Division wrote: »

Only got nerfed because bad PvPers whined when they were incapable of killing a dragonknight who just blew its ultimate.

Actually it was nerfed because DKs used it to bypass the scroll gates.

ak_pvp

Feanor wrote: »

Joy_Division wrote: »

Only got nerfed because bad PvPers whined when they were incapable of killing a dragonknight who just blew its ultimate.

Actually it was nerfed because DKs used it to bypass the scroll gates.

Doesn't going in the scroll zone instakill you?

driosketch

ak_pvp wrote: »

Feanor wrote: »

Joy_Division wrote: »

Only got nerfed because bad PvPers whined when they were incapable of killing a dragonknight who just blew its ultimate.

Actually it was nerfed because DKs used it to bypass the scroll gates.

Doesn't going in the scroll zone instakill you?

They also added restrictions if gate was not open.

Koolio wrote: »

Or off

Don't really care about leaping into keeps, but I'd like to be able to bomb enemies from above again.

TBois

With the added scroll features and as someone who never played a dk in pvp, please bring this back. It made seiging way more fun even if I was just watching our dks help kill counter seige.

kojou

I would be ok with this.

NordSwordnBoard

A group of DKs would have a cross faction friend stand on the keep wall and allow them all to zip up to him. Or was that DK chains? Either way, an open door or wall being down is the only legitimate way to enter an enemy keep.

I agree it was fun to see them leap up and fight, and I wish they still could in a battle. Players abusing wall hopping quickly flipping empty keeps put an end to that unfortunately.

Dark_in_a_box

Well then I suggest you let stamblades ambush up walls again but guarantee everyone would QQ

Xvorg

NordSwordnBoard wrote: »

A group of DKs would have a cross faction friend stand on the keep wall and allow them all to zip up to him. Or was that DK chains? Either way, an open door or wall being down is the only legitimate way to enter an enemy keep.

I agree it was fun to see them leap up and fight, and I wish they still could in a battle. Players abusing wall hopping quickly flipping empty keeps put an end to that unfortunately.

if you see that, just report the guy doing it.

The combo was leap + chains, also known as the "amazing spiderman" combo

Nord_Raseri

I'd like to pounce on/off walls with my ww

Quantum_V

That'd be interesting to see.

I'd rather see it work in a way where you can only leap into the inner side of keeps, so that people can't cheese a keep capture by leaping in guards or other players without even having to flag said keep.

If you were able to leap, only in determined spots (like it used to be, but maybe even less areas) to the inner side, meaning you'd have to flag and breach into the outter keep, that'd bring some of the fun factor back into Cyrodiil.

With that said, I do profoundly understand how people can be against this change, as defending a keep was kind of a pain when you could get DK leap squad from stealth by 7-8 DKs back in the day.... hahah

IAVITNI

Quantum_V wrote: »

That'd be interesting to see.

I'd rather see it work in a way where you can only leap into the inner side of keeps, so that people can't cheese a keep capture by leaping in guards or other players without even having to flag said keep.

If you were able to leap, only in determined spots (like it used to be, but maybe even less areas) to the inner side, meaning you'd have to flag and breach into the outter keep, that'd bring some of the fun factor back into Cyrodiil.

With that said, I do profoundly understand how people can be against this change, as defending a keep was kind of a pain when you could get DK leap squad from stealth by 7-8 DKs back in the day.... hahah

Feanor wrote: »

Joy_Division wrote: »

Only got nerfed because bad PvPers whined when they were incapable of killing a dragonknight who just blew its ultimate.

Actually it was nerfed because DKs used it to bypass the scroll gates.

NordSwordnBoard wrote: »

A group of DKs would have a cross faction friend stand on the keep wall and allow them all to zip up to him. Or was that DK chains? Either way, an open door or wall being down is the only legitimate way to enter an enemy keep.

I agree it was fun to see them leap up and fight, and I wish they still could in a battle. Players abusing wall hopping quickly flipping empty keeps put an end to that unfortunately.

Well they could add a stipulation that the keep has to be flagged. Would fix a lot of the cheese. This also means scroll gate cheese wouldn't work because it's not something that can actually be flagged

profundidob16_ESO

Wait....did you see that ?? Was that...Batman ?

TBois

I've been seiging keeps for almost 5 years pretty much the same way. Give us more ways to enter keeps whether it be skills or something with the resources. Seiging is super boring for me.

Spark

Yes please. With the scroll issue now fixed, this would risk campaign balance, only spice up sieging situations. It would be a fun challenge also when counter sieging!

Mashille

Yeah, I miss that. Used to be so awesome.

/sign

Passifest

While they're at it they should fix leap not hitting a moving target half the time.

Davadin

i remember those days.

honestly, i'd love to have it back, but wow... aside the scroll-exploit and chain-pull abuse....


this can be easily OP.

NOW, i say if they can rearrange Cyro to make bridge breakable, they can also make the inner wall higher, or something, whatever make it that it's not game-breaking.

BUT, yeah, I'm a decent DPS-focus heavy-set DK, and I'm sure I'm not the only ones (what's with people think DK are only block-spammers? there's probably 2 i encountered every night, maybe 3). If i can drink an immune pot, leap to a siege on the wall, caltrops, poison breath, claw, and start spamming reverse strike or brawler/cleave.... that's a lot of damage.



Now imagine 5-6 DK doing this at the same time.


That's a highly mobile mini-zerg of spidermans.............



oh ***, and now imagine magDK and their talons and all other AoE skills....

Tetrafy

Bring back dk leaps again zos.

Yamenstein

Need a poll.

Def want it back! Also the nightblade teleport!