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Do we really have to datamine everything?

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I expected some puzzling stories, discoveries and putting pieces together from the hints the developers would give us... But instead everything got datamined :(

Way to ruin some fun and excitement from guessing :( have some patience people. It's fine to datamine something but to find out what the whole chapter is? :/ come on...
Edited by Nyladreas on January 6, 2019 3:03PM
  • Callous2208
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    Give it a week and you'll know which skills to use on your necromancer, what the main story is about, and what new gear is op and what is garbage. :D
  • gepe87
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    Hype is always satisfying till patch notes are released.
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    Hawkeye and Captain Marvel kill Thanos <3
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    Edited by Caligamy_ESO on January 15, 2019 12:47AM
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  • CatchMeTrolling
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    People can’t wait for anything, must suck to have planned announcements then someone ruins all of that.
  • bearbelly
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    You might as well try to stop a tsunami at the shoreline of the beach by standing there with your arm thrust out in front of you.

    People are going to do whatever, and as much as, they possibly can to unearth information before it is made officially available. Asking them to not do so will fall on deaf ears, if it doesn't incite them to flaunt it in your face for daring to ask that they stop.
  • Ertosi
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    Yes. Datamine all the things!
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  • Seraphayel
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    People can’t wait for anything, must suck to have planned announcements then someone ruins all of that.

    Don't put all that stuff into your client then. They KNOW that stuff like this gets datamined asap.
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  • Ruinhorn
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    Because it's way too obvious players will datamine everything with every new patch note. What's the point to put these files in the main game client then? Want to make a surprise? Do not disclose yourself then.
  • CatchMeTrolling
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    Seraphayel wrote: »
    People can’t wait for anything, must suck to have planned announcements then someone ruins all of that.

    Don't put all that stuff into your client then. They KNOW that stuff like this gets datamined asap.

    They wouldn’t be the only devs that do this or implement placeholders to prepare for future dlc. It’s up to the community to act like they have some patience. At least leave some of it up to speculation rather than confirming it.

  • Seraphayel
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    Seraphayel wrote: »
    People can’t wait for anything, must suck to have planned announcements then someone ruins all of that.

    Don't put all that stuff into your client then. They KNOW that stuff like this gets datamined asap.

    They wouldn’t be the only devs that do this or implement placeholders to prepare for future dlc. It’s up to the community to act like they have some patience. At least leave some of it up to speculation rather than confirming it.

    I think they count on datamining to further fuel the hype. If they want to keep all that stuff hidden they can hide it.
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  • Surak73
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    Seraphayel wrote: »
    People can’t wait for anything, must suck to have planned announcements then someone ruins all of that.

    Don't put all that stuff into your client then. They KNOW that stuff like this gets datamined asap.

    THIS. Exactly. How on Hell someone has come to think that putting the formal announcement of the new chapter in something dataminable was a clever thing, [snip]?...

    [edited for profanity bypass]
    Edited by ZOS_Icy on March 9, 2025 6:50PM
  • CatchMeTrolling
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    Seraphayel wrote: »
    Seraphayel wrote: »
    People can’t wait for anything, must suck to have planned announcements then someone ruins all of that.

    Don't put all that stuff into your client then. They KNOW that stuff like this gets datamined asap.

    They wouldn’t be the only devs that do this or implement placeholders to prepare for future dlc. It’s up to the community to act like they have some patience. At least leave some of it up to speculation rather than confirming it.

    I think they count on datamining to further fuel the hype. If they want to keep all that stuff hidden they can hide it.

    Maybe to an extent just to get people talking. This is why devs rarely deny or don’t deny rumors for the sake of the discussion and hype. Although they still have planned announcements (recent events makes this more apparent) and promotions. Can’t “put the pieces together” if the main parts are leaked , everything else is just filler.

    Edited by CatchMeTrolling on January 6, 2019 3:32PM
  • SirAndy
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    Ertosi wrote: »
    Datamine all the things!
    Datamine all te tings!

    Fixed it for 'ya!
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  • LukosCreyden
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    In learning that Necromancy is coming, I am INFINITELY more hyped than I was originally. Keep the datamining up, I say!
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  • ezio45
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    honestly its not a big deal, zos should just do it themselves and save dataminers the work.

    Im curious about that dragon thing tho

    one dragon I can see going undiscovered, but a dragon war?
  • Osteos
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    I dont mind but it wouldn't hurt to put the reveal in spoilers and leave up to people if they want to open the thread or not.
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  • Sergykid
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    what is this datamining anyway? how do people find out "secrets" of the ZOS schedule?
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  • iiYuki
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    People want to know about whats next, spoilers and up coming stuff. I guess some people dont like it but its hardly shoved in your face, most posts discussing it will include datamined or leaked in the title.
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  • Tandor
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    As far as I'm concerned, datamining is only a very short step removed from hacking. Fair enough, and if that's how some get their jollies then so be it but at least please leave it off public forums and keep it to yourselves. Those who are interested in such things will know where to find it. I would also hope that any threads leaking advance information will be deleted as promptly as some others are.
  • Callous2208
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    Tandor wrote: »
    As far as I'm concerned, datamining is only a very short step removed from hacking. Fair enough, and if that's how some get their jollies then so be it but at least please leave it off public forums and keep it to yourselves. Those who are interested in such things will know where to find it. I would also hope that any threads leaking advance information will be deleted as promptly as some others are.

    None ever are deleted though. Makes one wonder if the info isn't purposefully put there for dataminers to find and leak.
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  • Tandor
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    Tandor wrote: »
    As far as I'm concerned, datamining is only a very short step removed from hacking. Fair enough, and if that's how some get their jollies then so be it but at least please leave it off public forums and keep it to yourselves. Those who are interested in such things will know where to find it. I would also hope that any threads leaking advance information will be deleted as promptly as some others are.

    None ever are deleted though. Makes one wonder if the info isn't purposefully put there for dataminers to find and leak.

    If enough people report such threads they may get deleted.

    The problem is that you can't avoid them even if you want to. The first one may have a spoiler alert in the title but from then on every other thread will have giveaway information in the title so you can't get away from the information even if you don't read the thread.
  • Claudman
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    Hype generates revenue. (And datamining can create hype)
    I was scared that it might be a dumb Dragon Break, but now knowing what it's going to be about...

    Let's just say that ZoS has my money.
    Edited by Claudman on January 6, 2019 5:22PM
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  • Callous2208
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    Tandor wrote: »
    Tandor wrote: »
    As far as I'm concerned, datamining is only a very short step removed from hacking. Fair enough, and if that's how some get their jollies then so be it but at least please leave it off public forums and keep it to yourselves. Those who are interested in such things will know where to find it. I would also hope that any threads leaking advance information will be deleted as promptly as some others are.

    None ever are deleted though. Makes one wonder if the info isn't purposefully put there for dataminers to find and leak.

    If enough people report such threads they may get deleted.

    The problem is that you can't avoid them even if you want to. The first one may have a spoiler alert in the title but from then on every other thread will have giveaway information in the title so you can't get away from the information even if you don't read the thread.

    I guess the questions now are:
    1. Have the threads been reported in great numbers?
    2. If so has ZoS ignored these pleas and kept them open and why?
    3. Are they not being reported in great numbers because the masses want the juicy details on everything and want them now!
  • TerraDewBerry
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    I'm in the datamine all the things camp... If they don't want stuff to be leaked before hand.. then don't put it in the game before hand! Time and time again this has happened. Either they just don't learn or they don't want to learn.
    Edited by TerraDewBerry on January 6, 2019 6:13PM
  • DaveMoeDee
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    The slow trickle doesn't add excitement. It is annoying and underwhelming at each step. It is a steady stream of disappointment punctuated by an announcement of what everyone has already figured out. If you can't keep a secret until the final moment, just announce it early.
  • Nyladreas
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    DaveMoeDee wrote: »
    The slow trickle doesn't add excitement. It is annoying and underwhelming at each step. It is a steady stream of disappointment punctuated by an announcement of what everyone has already figured out. If you can't keep a secret until the final moment, just announce it early.

    Wow I'm speechless... What a boring way to think about something.
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    Surak73 wrote: »
    Seraphayel wrote: »
    People can’t wait for anything, must suck to have planned announcements then someone ruins all of that.

    Don't put all that stuff into your client then. They KNOW that stuff like this gets datamined asap.

    THIS. Exactly. How on Hell someone has come to think that putting the formal announcement of the new chapter in something dataminable was a clever thing, [snip]?...

    Because they have a expectation that people will follow the terms of service. Datamining is hacking the client which is a violation of TOS. Notice that dataminers are usually from places that is difficult for the tos to be enforced.

    [edited to remove quote]
    Edited by ZOS_Icy on March 9, 2025 6:52PM
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  • Callous2208
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    Grimm13 wrote: »
    Surak73 wrote: »
    Seraphayel wrote: »
    People can’t wait for anything, must suck to have planned announcements then someone ruins all of that.

    Don't put all that stuff into your client then. They KNOW that stuff like this gets datamined asap.

    THIS. Exactly. How on Hell someone has come to think that putting the formal announcement of the new chapter in something dataminable was a clever thing, [snip]?...

    Because they have a expectation that people will follow the terms of service. Datamining is hacking the client which is a violation of TOS. Notice that dataminers are usually from places that is difficult for the tos to be enforced.

    Yea but c'mon. They're not exactly shutting down threads linking this stuff, posting pics, and talking about all the details ad nauseum now are they?

    [edited to remove quote]
    Edited by ZOS_Icy on March 9, 2025 6:52PM
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