If pve players want a pve version of cyrodil then we pvp players want a pvp version of tamriel

Tandor

As a PvEer I wouldn't be averse to a consensual PvP instance of Cyrodiil (and Imperial City) for those who only want to participate in the PvE content, although I wouldn't personally lobby for it.

After all, PvPers are already able to to participate in the existing PvP content throughout Tamriel (dueling), so there's certainly a logical argument for a PvE instance in PvP zones.

As for the notion of a pure PvP version of Tamriel without the PvE content, that would be absurd. If you stripped out all the PvE content and put in a few keeps etc you'd have a world how many times larger than Cyrodiil? People already complain about the size of Cyrodiil as it is. If people want to play a pure PvP game without bothering with any PvE then there are plenty of games that cater for them, ESO isn't one of them, nor will it - or should it - ever be.

If ZOS simply created a mirror world with open PvP then it's pretty likely that it would be dead within 6 months. The number of players who want to be ganked while handing in a quest or taking on a world boss is pretty limited, and once the novelty had worn off the players would be stretched too thin across Tamriel for it to be remotely worthwhile.

Shadowasrial

There would be no quests except kill enemy players take towns it would be for want of a better word anarchy and that my friend would be quite the experience. Also with the two servers completely split you will find all your fellow pve players in your server and all of us pvpers would be in ours. Peace and tranquillity would reign in your server while pandemonium and chaos would reign in ours.

Tandor wrote: »

As a PvEer I wouldn't be averse to a consensual PvP instance of Cyrodiil (and Imperial City) for those who only want to participate in the PvE content, although I wouldn't personally lobby for it.

After all, PvPers are already able to to participate in the existing PvP content throughout Tamriel (dueling), so there's certainly a logical argument for a PvE instance in PvP zones.

As for the notion of a pure PvP version of Tamriel without the PvE content, that would be absurd. If you stripped out all the PvE content and put in a few keeps etc you'd have a world how many times larger than Cyrodiil? People already complain about the size of Cyrodiil as it is. If people want to play a pure PvP game without bothering with any PvE then there are plenty of games that cater for them, ESO isn't one of them, nor will it - or should it - ever be.

If ZOS simply created a mirror world with open PvP then it's pretty likely that it would be dead within 6 months. The number of players who want to be ganked while handing in a quest or taking on a world boss is pretty limited, and once the novelty had worn off the players would be stretched too thin across Tamriel for it to be remotely worthwhile.

jircris11

Honestly that's the ONE THING swtor did right you can pick pve or PVP instance of most planets

Fallen_Ray

Shadowasrial wrote: »

Imagine it. You get off the boat in a pvp server. Your like yea! I escaped coldharbor. Player runs up to you slits your throat. Welcome to eso online!!!

Lmao!!!!

Reistr_the_Unbroken

Shadowasrial wrote: »

There would be no quests except kill enemy players take towns it would be for want of a better word anarchy and that my friend would be quite the experience. Also with the two servers completely split you will find all your fellow pve players in your server and all of us pvpers would be in ours. Peace and tranquillity would reign in your server while pandemonium and chaos would reign in ours.

Tandor wrote: »

As a PvEer I wouldn't be averse to a consensual PvP instance of Cyrodiil (and Imperial City) for those who only want to participate in the PvE content, although I wouldn't personally lobby for it.

After all, PvPers are already able to to participate in the existing PvP content throughout Tamriel (dueling), so there's certainly a logical argument for a PvE instance in PvP zones.

As for the notion of a pure PvP version of Tamriel without the PvE content, that would be absurd. If you stripped out all the PvE content and put in a few keeps etc you'd have a world how many times larger than Cyrodiil? People already complain about the size of Cyrodiil as it is. If people want to play a pure PvP game without bothering with any PvE then there are plenty of games that cater for them, ESO isn't one of them, nor will it - or should it - ever be.

If ZOS simply created a mirror world with open PvP then it's pretty likely that it would be dead within 6 months. The number of players who want to be ganked while handing in a quest or taking on a world boss is pretty limited, and once the novelty had worn off the players would be stretched too thin across Tamriel for it to be remotely worthwhile.

You literally just ignored what he said tho

Danikat

I don't want and haven't asked for a PvE only version of Cyrodiil. When I go there I just pick the emptiest campaign and avoid other people, which usually isn't difficult. But I'd be fine with completely separate PvE and PvP versions of all of Tamriel. I'd just keep playing on the PvE version and never go to the PvP version.

I'm concerned that if there's already complaints about not enough people playing the 1 PvP map we have adding more would turn it into a ghost town where it's hard to find anyone. But that wouldn't be my problem because I'd never go there anyway.

DocFrost72

Sure thing, it's actually not a terrible idea. Go to alliance war tab, select "Glenumbra pvp" (just one example) to go to your pvp zone.

Tandor

Shadowasrial wrote: »

There would be no quests except kill enemy players take towns it would be for want of a better word anarchy and that my friend would be quite the experience. Also with the two servers completely split you will find all your fellow pve players in your server and all of us pvpers would be in ours. Peace and tranquillity would reign in your server while pandemonium and chaos would reign in ours.

Indeed so.

For 6 months at most, and then the few remaining PvPers would be on here campaigning for free transfers back.

HallowedUndead

MrGraves wrote: »

if pvpers get a pvp of the rest of tamriel then pvers TOTES need pve battlegrounds. Why? No one knows.

(I actually am in favour of pve cyro where we can all like. Just be friends though. )

WE need to go back to cyrodiil and destroy the deadra!!!

HUZAAAAH

xxthir13enxx

biovitalb16_ESO wrote: »

Hmmm...give 99.9% of the player base a PvE version of Cyrodiil or give 0.1% of the player base a PvP version of Tamriel. I wonder who would get what.

Heh PvErs constantly blame all Nerfs on PvP balance...n yet that All being done for 0.1% of ESO population? PvErs sure like their fantasy worlds...anything’s possible

Davor

I didn't buy Fallout 76 for the reason of someone to just gank me. I would leave ESO if this ever happened. I just don't go to Cyrodill.

As for getting upset with all the PvE asking for PvE in Cyrodill why are you letting strangers upset you? Why are you giving them the power? Don't read their posts. Simple as that.

Unless we have separate PvP and PvE servers, then yes do it. This way if both camps are happy. I am sure someone will find something to complain about that though.

DocFrost72

Davor wrote: »

I didn't buy Fallout 76 for the reason of someone to just gank me.

Kinda sorta off topic, but that can't happen unless you're a careless shooter. You take some abysmally large percent damage less from hostile players if you've yet to attack them, and can even turn a mode (pacifist) on to never do damage to non hostile players. That is not the reason to avoid 76.

There are plenty of reasons to do that without worrying about ganking.

Reistr_the_Unbroken

DocFrost72 wrote: »

Davor wrote: »

I didn't buy Fallout 76 for the reason of someone to just gank me.

Kinda sorta off topic, but that can't happen unless you're a careless shooter. You take some abysmally large percent damage less from hostile players if you've yet to attack them, and can even turn a mode (pacifist) on to never do damage to non hostile players. That is not the reason to avoid 76.

There are plenty of reasons to do that without worrying about ganking.

My friends grandpa dropped his pre-order for FO76 because it was just a huge multiplayer pvp zone. No NPCs, just some trolls and probably decent players. And I’m kinda glad I’m not interested in FO very much, except for (modded) FO4, which I should finish soon.

Malmai

Apoxsee wrote: »

This is a great idea... one server where pvp is turned on everywhere... you go into town with some minor protection from the guards but everywhere else you could be killed by players. Then we could actually have a bounty/justice system! Sold!

Same as zero sector in EVE online...

JKorr

Tandor wrote: »

As a PvEer I wouldn't be averse to a consensual PvP instance of Cyrodiil (and Imperial City) for those who only want to participate in the PvE content, although I wouldn't personally lobby for it.

After all, PvPers are already able to to participate in the existing PvP content throughout Tamriel (dueling), so there's certainly a logical argument for a PvE instance in PvP zones.

As for the notion of a pure PvP version of Tamriel without the PvE content, that would be absurd. If you stripped out all the PvE content and put in a few keeps etc you'd have a world how many times larger than Cyrodiil? People already complain about the size of Cyrodiil as it is. If people want to play a pure PvP game without bothering with any PvE then there are plenty of games that cater for them, ESO isn't one of them, nor will it - or should it - ever be.

If ZOS simply created a mirror world with open PvP then it's pretty likely that it would be dead within 6 months. The number of players who want to be ganked while handing in a quest or taking on a world boss is pretty limited, and once the novelty had worn off the players would be stretched too thin across Tamriel for it to be remotely worthwhile.

Every time I post in one of these threads, I say it would be fair if there was a separate instance/server for open world pvp, if they ever make a pve version.

According to the owpvp players, Tandor, all they want is the option to kill everyone all the time everywhere. The pve content would still be there. Only in the owpvp instance/server, the pvpers would be able to do the faction quests *and* have to deal with other players camping quest givers, ganking low level players, and whatever other "fun" activities they can dream up. Everyone who chose that instance/server would be there to pvp.

For the pve players who want to do pve content in Cyrodiil, everything would remain *except* the pvp aspect. All the npc enemies would still be there. Pvers could do the content and explore while dealing with the npcs.

If the pvp players are really interested in pvp all the time everywhere, there should be a healthy population cause, according to them, open world pvp is really popular. Even though there would no longer be unprepared not built or geared for pvp pve players around to gank the pvp players would still choose the open world option. If they don't, well....:shrug:

Acrolas

guyyyyys why is the bridge between eastern stormhaven and evermore demolished again...

Hawco10

Lol. How can there be a Pve version of Cyrodill? Whoever is advocating for that needs to stay in lala land.

DocFrost72

Hawco10 wrote: »

Lol. How can there be a Pve version of Cyrodill? Whoever is advocating for that needs to stay in lala land.

Okay, it's really complicated so try to stay with me;

You can't attack another player.

I know it is super complex, but I trust ZoS to figure it out.