What will be done to fungal grotto exploiters ? Why I am punished and called toxic by not following?

OsManiaC

1. I couldn't find dungeons first day due to group finder broken
2. I couldn't get into game second day due to steam login problem
3. Even all these things I did not follow group members when they tp to fungal grotto because from my point of view it is wrong
4. I waited for 15 minutes to re-queue while these people finished their map and entered another fg1.
5. My precious time for finding a dungeon + loading screens + inside dungeon + queue + loading screens lost.

Clearly why I am the problem here? Why I am called the toxic in the community?

I reported those people tp to fg. If they are doing nothing wrong, then am I abusing the report system?

therift

The best answer I read came from another thread on this topic. Wish I could find it to give the poster proper credit:

"You were trying to cross the street during a parade"

VaranisArano

You are doing your Random Dungeon as intended. They are not.

However, they feel entitled to run an easier dungeon amd receive the rewards by using this glitch. Because it makes their life easier, they will justify it.

The_Saint

1 hour left then the event is over.

just chill and enjoy the game...

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/447656/zos-can-this-stupid-pug-trick-get-a-fix/p1
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/448189/random-dungeon-is-tp-to-another-dungeon-eg-fungal-grotto-an-exploit-cheat#latest
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/447629/major-exploit-undaunted-daily-randoms#latest

GreenhaloX

Nahh.. it's good to stand out. You don't need to follow the lemmings; oh sorry, I meant crowd. You can break at the edge of the cliff, turn back and not need to jump with the rest.

Jolipinator

If they ban or suspend all of those who "exploited", your queue times will last days.

wolf486

Report them and let ZOS deal with them

VagabondLife

GreenhaloX wrote: »

Nahh.. it's good to stand out. You don't need to follow the lemmings; oh sorry, I meant crowd. You can break at the edge of the cliff, turn back and not need to jump with the rest.

You should probably jump, though.

In the last few days I've seen SO MANY newbies refuse to follow the rest of the group off that cliff, only to immediately run headlong into the next pack of dreugh and die there, alone, while the rest of us swim to Kragh and kill him.

There's a metaphor here somewhere...

pod88kk

Jolipinator wrote: »

If they ban or suspend all of those who "exploited", your queue times will last days.

There'll be noone left to play the game, the population is declining a lot as it is. No need to ban the people who are left

UppGRAYxDD

have had only 2 groups leave for FG1 thru the whole event...
had only 3 long wait times when queued for DPS
hardly waited at all when I queued as a healer.

I know it is probably frustrating when you want to run a specific dungeon, or want to enjoy them all, but just chill. This is a limited time event and will be over today...then we can go back to complaining about DPS's queueing as tanks and healers...

SpacemanSpiff1

Because they want to justify their crappy behavior. They are selfish, but want to be the one "in the right" so they vilify people that don't follow them.

Enemoriana

UppGRAYxDD wrote: »

This is a limited time event and will be over today...

There is a free week next...

Pops_ND_Irish

The_Saint wrote: »

1 hour left then the event is over.

just chill and enjoy the game...

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/447656/zos-can-this-stupid-pug-trick-get-a-fix/p1
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/448189/random-dungeon-is-tp-to-another-dungeon-eg-fungal-grotto-an-exploit-cheat#latest
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/447629/major-exploit-undaunted-daily-randoms#latest

Only if they could, only if they could

Dawnblade

I don't care one way or the other - I've just gone with the group majority.

If most want to port somewhere else - I go where they go.

If most want to run whatever pops - I either stick around and run it (most normal dungeons) or drop if its a harder DLC and the group doesn't seem up to speed.

What I don't do is *** and complain that three other people didn't follow me and do what I wanted to do.

kathandira

OsManiaC wrote: »

1. I couldn't find dungeons first day due to group finder broken
2. I couldn't get into game second day due to steam login problem
3. Even all these things I did not follow group members when they tp to fungal grotto because from my point of view it is wrong
4. I waited for 15 minutes to re-queue while these people finished their map and entered another fg1.
5. My precious time for finding a dungeon + loading screens + inside dungeon + queue + loading screens lost.

Clearly why I am the problem here? Why I am called the toxic in the community?

I reported those people tp to fg. If they are doing nothing wrong, then am I abusing the report system?

Until ZOS comes out and says that this is not the intended functionality, it is fair game. For better or for worse.

Facefister

OsManiaC wrote: »

1. I couldn't find dungeons first day due to group finder broken
2. I couldn't get into game second day due to steam login problem
3. Even all these things I did not follow group members when they tp to fungal grotto because from my point of view it is wrong
4. I waited for 15 minutes to re-queue while these people finished their map and entered another fg1.
5. My precious time for finding a dungeon + loading screens + inside dungeon + queue + loading screens lost.

Clearly why I am the problem here? Why I am called the toxic in the community?

I reported those people tp to fg. If they are doing nothing wrong, then am I abusing the report system?

"Dungeon Finder is broken and a dungeon event is going on? Let me queue into the latest DLC dungeons with my 3k dps!"
Why are you like this?

Aebaradath

Hopefully more than just a simple slap on the wrist. Remove the rewards they got from their boxes or something.

Facefister

kathandira wrote: »

OsManiaC wrote: »

1. I couldn't find dungeons first day due to group finder broken
2. I couldn't get into game second day due to steam login problem
3. Even all these things I did not follow group members when they tp to fungal grotto because from my point of view it is wrong
4. I waited for 15 minutes to re-queue while these people finished their map and entered another fg1.
5. My precious time for finding a dungeon + loading screens + inside dungeon + queue + loading screens lost.

Clearly why I am the problem here? Why I am called the toxic in the community?

I reported those people tp to fg. If they are doing nothing wrong, then am I abusing the report system?

Until ZOS comes out and says that this is not the intended functionality, it is fair game. For better or for worse.

Some GM on the german forums already stated that it isn't intentional but they also wont take any steps against the "exploiters"

MrGraves

OsManiaC wrote: »

Even all these things I did not follow group members when they tp to fungal grotto because from my point of view it is wrong
I waited for 15 minutes to re-queue while these people finished their map and entered another fg1.
My precious time for finding a dungeon + loading screens + inside dungeon + queue + loading screens lost.


Clearly why I am the problem here? Why I am called the toxic in the community?

I reported those people tp to fg. If they are doing nothing wrong, then am I abusing the report system?

If people are just porting to FG1 without saying anything/not caring when you say you don't want to and being mean about it, I would say reporting it is justified? in the the team reviewing it will decide what to do with it if anything at all. I doubt anyone besides the people that might be angry about you reporting them will say you're abusing the report system by you reporting actual issues. Which it is one though maybe it wont be big enough an issue for ZoS to take action. Obviously you shouldn't just flood support with all the player reports anytime someone does something you dislike. In this case I would say just keep it to the players who are actually behaving badly in chat along with the porting behaviour rather than just because they went to FG. Atleast since ZoS hasn't said if it is or isn't an exploit in their eyes.

You probably shouldn't worry about people calling you toxic for wanting to play the game as intended or just otherwise disliking the FG porting trick. There's lots of people against it just like you. And alot of it is a difference in play style. (Though I've seen people in the game acting kind of.... Abusive.... About the FG trick when someone doesn't want to do it. There's plenty of people who use it only with groups of people who all agree to do it as well. in which case no one is really hurt)

GreenhaloX

VagabondLife wrote: »

GreenhaloX wrote: »

Nahh.. it's good to stand out. You don't need to follow the lemmings; oh sorry, I meant crowd. You can break at the edge of the cliff, turn back and not need to jump with the rest.

You should probably jump, though.

In the last few days I've seen SO MANY newbies refuse to follow the rest of the group off that cliff, only to immediately run headlong into the next pack of dreugh and die there, alone, while the rest of us swim to Kragh and kill him.

There's a metaphor here somewhere...

..yeah, and the metaphor for you is the sharks, or in this game case, slaughterfishes swarming in to all you swimmers. Swim fast, with all your might. Swim like you've never swam before..

sevomd69

Why I am punished and called toxic by not following?

Because life in general isn't fair...

Joy_Division

Nothing.

But it would be nice of ZOS to give those who did not engage in the FG nonsense a choice drop.

cheifsoap

Stop acting so entitled. No one is stopping you from dropping the group or finding another one. Because you dislike a method a group is applying, you want them banned because you can't have it your way?

karekiz

Nothing.

Mureel

PelinalWhitestrake wrote: »

Hopefully more than just a simple slap on the wrist. Remove the rewards they got from their boxes or something.

Oh yes please! Remove the motifs we all already have - save my bank space.

Still won't help you clear Normal MOS for free skillpoint tho will it!? xD

Event is over today anyway - we can go back to doing a random vet a day with whoever falls in there or our guildies, and you can fade back into obscurity.

I've never once ported without whole group wanting to, and I've asked and also seen 2 other people ask 'I need skillpoint here can we stay?' and everyone stayed, no complaints.

So I don't know who you're playing with - but given the crass and nasty PM you sent me, I'd question whether or not the fault is with yourself.

Facefister

Mureel wrote: »

PelinalWhitestrake wrote: »

Hopefully more than just a simple slap on the wrist. Remove the rewards they got from their boxes or something.

Oh yes please! Remove the motifs we all already have - save my bank space.

Still won't help you clear Normal MOS for free skillpoint tho will it!? xD

Event is over today anyway - we can go back to doing a random vet a day with whoever falls in there or our guildies, and you can fade back into obscurity.

I've never once ported without whole group wanting to, and I've asked and also seen 2 other people ask 'I need skillpoint here can we stay?' and everyone stayed, no complaints.

So I don't know who you're playing with - but given the crass and nasty PM you sent me, I'd question whether or not the fault is with yourself.

Now he can go back moaning about instant-leavers when a DLC dungeon comes up.

kathandira

OsManiaC wrote: »

1. I couldn't find dungeons first day due to group finder broken
2. I couldn't get into game second day due to steam login problem
3. Even all these things I did not follow group members when they tp to fungal grotto because from my point of view it is wrong
4. I waited for 15 minutes to re-queue while these people finished their map and entered another fg1.
5. My precious time for finding a dungeon + loading screens + inside dungeon + queue + loading screens lost.

Clearly why I am the problem here? Why I am called the toxic in the community?

I reported those people tp to fg. If they are doing nothing wrong, then am I abusing the report system?

Until ZOS comes out and says that this is not the intended functionality, it is fair game. For better or for worse.

Facefister wrote: »

kathandira wrote: »

OsManiaC wrote: »

1. I couldn't find dungeons first day due to group finder broken
2. I couldn't get into game second day due to steam login problem
3. Even all these things I did not follow group members when they tp to fungal grotto because from my point of view it is wrong
4. I waited for 15 minutes to re-queue while these people finished their map and entered another fg1.
5. My precious time for finding a dungeon + loading screens + inside dungeon + queue + loading screens lost.

Clearly why I am the problem here? Why I am called the toxic in the community?

I reported those people tp to fg. If they are doing nothing wrong, then am I abusing the report system?

Until ZOS comes out and says that this is not the intended functionality, it is fair game. For better or for worse.

Some GM on the german forums already stated that it isn't intentional but they also wont take any steps against the "exploiters"

Very interesting! I didn't hear about that yet.

sevomd69

Mureel wrote: »

PelinalWhitestrake wrote: »

Hopefully more than just a simple slap on the wrist. Remove the rewards they got from their boxes or something.

Oh yes please! Remove the motifs we all already have - save my bank space.

Still won't help you clear Normal MOS for free skillpoint tho will it!? xD

Event is over today anyway - we can go back to doing a random vet a day with whoever falls in there or our guildies, and you can fade back into obscurity.

I've never once ported without whole group wanting to, and I've asked and also seen 2 other people ask 'I need skillpoint here can we stay?' and everyone stayed, no complaints.

So I don't know who you're playing with - but given the crass and nasty PM you sent me, I'd question whether or not the fault is with yourself.

Yeah...got normal Fang Lair on my tank yesterday...asked if they wanted to port...they said absolutely not... they still had the pledge so I said whatever...2 810's, and 340ish I believe...I'm 810 (1147 CP)...

So we get to the first "boss" the arena where only adds spawn...and all 3 promptly die...rez one of the 810's...he/she doesn't rez any one and then almost immediately dies again...so I just solo'd the rest of the adds...

Posted "should have done FG"...and left... Only had a 90 second penalty for the next queue...

Mureel

Facefister wrote: »

Mureel wrote: »

PelinalWhitestrake wrote: »

Hopefully more than just a simple slap on the wrist. Remove the rewards they got from their boxes or something.

Oh yes please! Remove the motifs we all already have - save my bank space.

Still won't help you clear Normal MOS for free skillpoint tho will it!? xD

Event is over today anyway - we can go back to doing a random vet a day with whoever falls in there or our guildies, and you can fade back into obscurity.

I've never once ported without whole group wanting to, and I've asked and also seen 2 other people ask 'I need skillpoint here can we stay?' and everyone stayed, no complaints.

So I don't know who you're playing with - but given the crass and nasty PM you sent me, I'd question whether or not the fault is with yourself.

Now he can go back moaning about instant-leavers when a DLC dungeon comes up.

This.

I ALWAYS stay and help people when I do my rando for the daily - even though 5/10 I'm basically soloing the thing, the rest it's me and one other player doing most the things - but I think from now on I will only Queue random vet with a preformed.

The entitlement to our time I've seen over these last few days when I know from experience that people have been cool with staying when someone wanted gear or a skillpoint or w/e - I just - whatever.

Not like people who stayed with porting group didn't get their motifs or whatever too.

I really do not know what kind of lives some people must have to be so ridiculous.

TIME is the MOST PRECIOUS commodity that any human has.

How anyone thinks they're entitled to anyone else's is far beyond me.

I reckon that some people just don't know how to ask nicely.

Same as staying for end of dungeon roleplay if you need skillpoint.

I find if I'm on a lowbie and ask nicely (Will anyone please stay with me a moment for skillpoint? ) someone ALWAYS has stayed.

If I happened to be in a group where one person didn't want to port, we stayed.

I really think some people just bring bad fortune upon themselves.

Mureel

sevomd69 wrote: »

Mureel wrote: »

PelinalWhitestrake wrote: »

Hopefully more than just a simple slap on the wrist. Remove the rewards they got from their boxes or something.

Oh yes please! Remove the motifs we all already have - save my bank space.

Still won't help you clear Normal MOS for free skillpoint tho will it!? xD

Event is over today anyway - we can go back to doing a random vet a day with whoever falls in there or our guildies, and you can fade back into obscurity.

I've never once ported without whole group wanting to, and I've asked and also seen 2 other people ask 'I need skillpoint here can we stay?' and everyone stayed, no complaints.

So I don't know who you're playing with - but given the crass and nasty PM you sent me, I'd question whether or not the fault is with yourself.

Yeah...got normal Fang Lair on my tank yesterday...asked if they wanted to port...they said absolutely not... they still had the pledge so I said whatever...2 810's, and 340ish I believe...I'm 810 (1147 CP)...

So we get to the first "boss" the arena where only adds spawn...and all 3 promptly die...rez one of the 810's...he/she doesn't rez any one and then almost immediately dies again...so I just solo'd the rest of the adds...

Posted "should have done FG"...and left... Only had a 90 second penalty for the next queue...

This is exactly my entire point this whole time. We're always staying when we queue in (myself and several others I know) - and so for one week we're like 'hey it's too much pain for 8+ chars or whatever - so who cares if people wanna port - that said I ran with preformed 99% of it anyway) - and everyone loses their minds. ;-/

sevomd69

Mureel wrote: »

Facefister wrote: »

Mureel wrote: »

PelinalWhitestrake wrote: »

Hopefully more than just a simple slap on the wrist. Remove the rewards they got from their boxes or something.

Oh yes please! Remove the motifs we all already have - save my bank space.

Still won't help you clear Normal MOS for free skillpoint tho will it!? xD

Event is over today anyway - we can go back to doing a random vet a day with whoever falls in there or our guildies, and you can fade back into obscurity.

I've never once ported without whole group wanting to, and I've asked and also seen 2 other people ask 'I need skillpoint here can we stay?' and everyone stayed, no complaints.

So I don't know who you're playing with - but given the crass and nasty PM you sent me, I'd question whether or not the fault is with yourself.

Now he can go back moaning about instant-leavers when a DLC dungeon comes up.

This.

I ALWAYS stay and help people when I do my rando for the daily - even though 5/10 I'm basically soloing the thing, the rest it's me and one other player doing most the things - but I think from now on I will only Queue random vet with a preformed.

The entitlement to our time I've seen over these last few days when I know from experience that people have been cool with staying when someone wanted gear or a skillpoint or w/e - I just - whatever.

Not like people who stayed with porting group didn't get their motifs or whatever too.

I really do not know what kind of lives some people must have to be so ridiculous.

TIME is the MOST PRECIOUS commodity that any human has.

How anyone thinks they're entitled to anyone else's is far beyond me.

I reckon that some people just don't know how to ask nicely.

Same as staying for end of dungeon roleplay if you need skillpoint.

I find if I'm on a lowbie and ask nicely (Will anyone please stay with me a moment for skillpoint? ) someone ALWAYS has stayed.

If I happened to be in a group where one person didn't want to port, we stayed.

I really think some people just bring bad fortune upon themselves.

For some reason...many people on this forum seem to think that its ok to determine how I spend MY TIME and MY MONEY...very wierd phenomenon...