Non-CP Duels

joseayalac

Would you like the opportunity to select between non-CP and CP duels?

Shraar

Yes! I want non-CP Duels

as a new player i was "bullied" if thats the right word for it because i tyhought i was so bad at the game because i was dueling someone because @Dottzgaming told me the best teacher is exerperiecne so i was dueling trying to learn pvp through trial and erro and it really felt hopeless because i kept losing SO BADLY

this was before i kne w what cp were let alone that they were active in duels so it wasnt ever my fault, but i felt bad for a long time after than and stopped playing that character fo awhiel aand made a pve focusde character instead brecause it thought pvp was too difificult and iwas just bad at it.,,,,,,,,,,,

so yah my point is that i wouw ld really like a no cp build duels i mean you can still have cp duels but there should be like a choice or an option of som Kyne for the players who arent max cp level otherwise its just no fair a

AAbrigo

Yes! I want non-CP Duels

Yes!

Would be easier to test your bg build.

Latios

Yes! I want non-CP Duels

Well, duh. I don’t get why there isn’t that option yet.

Solariken

Yes! I want non-CP Duels

Should be the only option IMO.

lazerlaz

Yes! I want non-CP Duels

And to your point I don't understand why I see so many low level cp players Vivic and Shor instead of Sotha Sil? Do they enjoy getting smashed by Max cp players or are they also completely unaware of the differences?

I'm Max CP and LOVE no CP Sotha Sil but it's a dang ghost town. Y'all should unite and populate!!!!

The cheese of certain builds and players who think they're good because CP carries their build is FAR FAR LESS

Crixus8000

Yes! I want non-CP Duels

Yes. So many times I get asked to duel in towns, and I always know it's going to be a 20min fight because of how much survivability and sustain cp throws at people.

And since I only play no cp it makes it harder to test builds in a duel since no one is going to spend 3k gold everytime they want to duel then place all the cp back.

joseayalac

Yes! I want non-CP Duels

I hope ZOS implements the non-CP duels soon!

It is very easy to implement and would make duels much more interesting in my opinion.

joseayalac

Yes! I want non-CP Duels

Anyone against the implementation of non CP duels who can share their point of view on the subject?

I've got yet to hear anything against them.

DeadlyRecluse

Yes! I want non-CP Duels

Especially with BGs being only noCP, it seems like it would make sense to have it as an option, at least.

Or have a zone with CP disabled, so that it can be done there.

dem0n1k

Yes! I want non-CP Duels

Be awesome for testing builds for BGs & no-CP Cyro.

Sibenice

Yes! I want non-CP Duels

I don't see what harm it could be if it were an option.

Also:

dem0n1k wrote: »

Be awesome for testing builds for BGs & no-CP Cyro.

Ragnarock41

Yes! I want non-CP Duels

Testing builds and other stuff for no-cp is a problem because we need to reset cp every time. Would be nice to have the no-cp dueling option.

WhyMustItBe

Yes! I want non-CP Duels

Should be an option for duels under game settings: CP/NoCP. When you invite someone to duel they will see a message based on your setting:

"Player X has invited you to a <CP/No CP> Duel"

If you accept it will automatically switch your toggle from whatever it is to match the inviting player, and switch it back after the duel if it was changed.

Totally simple system that would require 15 minutes of coding.

idk

No! Duels should be CP

I do not see this as something Zos should make a priority since it is very much a secondary part of the game.

WhyMustItBe

Yes! I want non-CP Duels

idk wrote: »

I do not see this as something Zos should make a priority since it is very much a secondary part of the game.

More options are better in most cases. When we are talking about literally 15 minutes of code, it is not exclusive to doing anything else as you imply, and your argument sort of sounds contrarian for the sake of it.

If an easy change can add options to the game without compromising other efforts (because of the simplicity of the change) there is no practical reason NOT to do it.

Especially when it is something most people clearly want.

JumpmanLane

lazerlaz wrote: »

And to your point I don't understand why I see so many low level cp players Vivic and Shor instead of Sotha Sil? Do they enjoy getting smashed by Max cp players or are they also completely unaware of the differences?

I'm Max CP and LOVE no CP Sotha Sil but it's a dang ghost town. Y'all should unite and populate!!!!

The cheese of certain builds and players who think they're good because CP carries their build is FAR FAR LESS

I started Vivec at level 10. I died a lot but used it as motivation to learn how to play the game and actually get good at it. I duel. It’s is a useful tool to a degree; but, to me there is no better test of a build than where and how i’ll actually use it: in VIVEC.

IF you do BG’s test your new builds in BG’s. Duels have a tendency to become self-imposed gimp-fests. Not everyone in Cyro is going to cut you slack and not run resource poisons or immovables for example.

idk

No! Duels should be CP

WhyMustItBe wrote: »

idk wrote: »

I do not see this as something Zos should make a priority since it is very much a secondary part of the game.

More options are better in most cases. When we are talking about literally 15 minutes of code, it is not exclusive to doing anything else as you imply, and your argument sort of sounds contrarian for the sake of it.

If an easy change can add options to the game without compromising other efforts (because of the simplicity of the change) there is no practical reason NOT to do it.

Especially when it is something most people clearly want.

I seriously doubt you are aware of how long it would take to write the code. Yes, I am aware of how everyone who wants a change is an expert and states how easy it is even though they do not have the first clue of how this game is designed.

Pretty sure Zos did not add dueling to help people prepare for BGs.

rabidmyers

Yes! I want non-CP Duels

doesnt hurt to have options lol

ArchMikem

Shraar wrote: »

as a new player i was "bullied" if thats the right word for it because i tyhought i was so bad at the game because i was dueling someone because @Dottzgaming told me the best teacher is exerperiecne so i was dueling trying to learn pvp through trial and erro and it really felt hopeless because i kept losing SO BADLY

Bullying is intentional harassment. What it sounds like is you kept dueling end game players who had a large advantage over you.

Demra

Yes! I want non-CP Duels

idk wrote: »

WhyMustItBe wrote: »

idk wrote: »

I do not see this as something Zos should make a priority since it is very much a secondary part of the game.

More options are better in most cases. When we are talking about literally 15 minutes of code, it is not exclusive to doing anything else as you imply, and your argument sort of sounds contrarian for the sake of it.

If an easy change can add options to the game without compromising other efforts (because of the simplicity of the change) there is no practical reason NOT to do it.

Especially when it is something most people clearly want.

I seriously doubt you are aware of how long it would take to write the code. Yes, I am aware of how everyone who wants a change is an expert and states how easy it is even though they do not have the first clue of how this game is designed.

Pretty sure Zos did not add dueling to help people prepare for BGs.

I don't duel because it's only for cp. I wonder how many more people like me not using duel feature ( which can be fun and is different from cyrodiil and bg) due to this. If there are quite a lot than it is not a waste of time for zos to implement it.

commdt

Yes! I want non-CP Duels

My main is a tank and I do everything on him. BGs and non-cp PvP are absolutely fine, but in duels I just dont have enough burst

Vapirko

Yes! I want non-CP Duels

There should at least be the option somehow. I mean yeah you can just disable all champion points but what a pain/annoying expense.

Noctus

Yes! I want non-CP Duels

cp makes balancing near impossible. even noncp balance is hard. so pvp should allways be noncp

idk

No! Duels should be CP

Demra wrote: »

idk wrote: »

WhyMustItBe wrote: »

idk wrote: »

I do not see this as something Zos should make a priority since it is very much a secondary part of the game.

More options are better in most cases. When we are talking about literally 15 minutes of code, it is not exclusive to doing anything else as you imply, and your argument sort of sounds contrarian for the sake of it.

If an easy change can add options to the game without compromising other efforts (because of the simplicity of the change) there is no practical reason NOT to do it.

Especially when it is something most people clearly want.

I seriously doubt you are aware of how long it would take to write the code. Yes, I am aware of how everyone who wants a change is an expert and states how easy it is even though they do not have the first clue of how this game is designed.

Pretty sure Zos did not add dueling to help people prepare for BGs.

I don't duel because it's only for cp. I wonder how many more people like me not using duel feature ( which can be fun and is different from cyrodiil and bg) due to this. If there are quite a lot than it is not a waste of time for zos to implement it.

Besides an assumption being made here, much more goes into the decision to do something or not. Value added to the game, and that goes beyond the limited use of dueling, is considered as well as the effort required for the benefit is a huge consideration. That last part is what you essentially quoted me responding to someone who made an uninformed comment as though they were an expert which I called them out on.

Noctus

Yes! I want non-CP Duels

idk wrote: »

Demra wrote: »

idk wrote: »

WhyMustItBe wrote: »

idk wrote: »

I do not see this as something Zos should make a priority since it is very much a secondary part of the game.

More options are better in most cases. When we are talking about literally 15 minutes of code, it is not exclusive to doing anything else as you imply, and your argument sort of sounds contrarian for the sake of it.

If an easy change can add options to the game without compromising other efforts (because of the simplicity of the change) there is no practical reason NOT to do it.

Especially when it is something most people clearly want.

I seriously doubt you are aware of how long it would take to write the code. Yes, I am aware of how everyone who wants a change is an expert and states how easy it is even though they do not have the first clue of how this game is designed.

Pretty sure Zos did not add dueling to help people prepare for BGs.

I don't duel because it's only for cp. I wonder how many more people like me not using duel feature ( which can be fun and is different from cyrodiil and bg) due to this. If there are quite a lot than it is not a waste of time for zos to implement it.

Besides an assumption being made here, much more goes into the decision to do something or not. Value added to the game, and that goes beyond the limited use of dueling, is considered as well as the effort required for the benefit is a huge consideration. That last part is what you essentially quoted me responding to someone who made an uninformed comment as though they were an expert which I called them out on.

ok we got it u hate pvp. i see this shining through in every comment of urs

Hamish999

Where's the "other/I don't care" option?

jainiadral

Yes! I want non-CP Duels

Here, have a conditional yes, so long as auto-decline is turned on by default

SwedishMini

No! Duels should be CP

Actually yes.

Girl_Number8

It would be nice if Zos had a toggle to load PvP cp, PvE cp, and turn cp off but I am not really having too much faith in them at the moment. So just take your cp out for any non-cp duels and test to your hearts content. You can easily do this with friends because I don't see how Zos could make it so the person you were dueling had their cp off, as well. Zos would have to probably create a non-cp arena for such a thing....which would be on the low list of things to do with the long awaited necro class coming out.

Shiredo

No! Duels should be CP

Get the Champion Point Respec addon, find a friend, both respec to 0 CP, done.