Come to the BGs to avoid lag in cyro.

Duukar

We could use an influx of players in the BG queue.

More pops = more fun = more AP

Aurielle

If you have long queue times and are facing the same people, that’s because of your MMR. Play on an alt, and you’ll have an instant match pop for you. There are lots of people playing BGs, but not as many who play them regularly. Even with an influx of new BG players, queue times won’t change until ZOS fixes the MMR system.

Stebarnz

They need to fix the queue system so even if you queue as a group you get randomly grouped for the BG as premades ruin BG's.

cazlonb16_ESO

No. If I wanted that kind of gameplay, I'd play Overwatch or some other game made for it.

Kel

Hate to tell you, but battlegrounds have been laggy as well.
Bar swaps and abilities not firing have been just as big of an issue in BG's as its been in Cyrodiil.
You can blame the over-use of proc sets, sorcs running two pets, (seriously, had 7 sorcs in one match...every single one of them running two pets+atro) and players throwing AoE on top of AoE.

Battlegrounds definitely suffer from lag, just like everywhere else....

Juhasow

Well lack of lag doesnt take away fact that BGs can be very often tragicly unenjoyable because of the cheese builds and certain premades compositions. And all of that happens if queue decides to actualy work properly instead of asking You to accept the inv like 50 times in a row.

frostz417

Remove the MMR first

evoniee

BG = coordinated premade, cheese build, no cp for counterplay

ScardyFox

I prefer BG right now - but it takes me 75 tried to get into a match.

Kinda weird when you think about it - you'd figure having a duty finder that works would be important staple of an MMO.

Oh yeah.... its ESO

Toc de Malsvi

BG's have lag, premades, and terrible group compositions. BUT they are still less laggy and awful than Cyrodiil 90% of the time.

Aixy

Stebarnz wrote: »

They need to fix the queue system so even if you queue as a group you get randomly grouped for the BG as premades ruin BG's.

+ 1 !!!

Perwulf

And deal with premades & cowards? No thanks.

Bashev

That is what I do and I have tons of fun.

95% of my games EU prime time are against pugs. I solo queue. I wait 5 min average per game.

Yesterday I tried Cyro for 10 minutes and that lag.... my skills doesnt fire, etc. So I just went back to BGs.

Aurielle

ravenarc wrote: »

And deal with premades & cowards? No thanks.

Premades suck when you’re queued solo, but dealing with the cowards (by which I assume you mean stealthed NB snipetards) can be fun with the right potions.

https://youtu.be/v4pCysT3aGw

Duukar

And now im getting 350+ pings in several BGs tonight..

WTF is ZoS doing to this game?

Im about to hang up my maces.....

Perwulf

Aurielle wrote: »

ravenarc wrote: »

And deal with premades & cowards? No thanks.

Premades suck when you’re queued solo, but dealing with the cowards (by which I assume you mean stealthed NB snipetards) can be fun with the right potions.

https://youtu.be/v4pCysT3aGw

No.

Cowards like; One enemy team that is not engaging in combat until the other two groups have killed each other off and already have their resources depleted. There's also the natural cowards that always runs in 1v1 fights but a tough guy gone rambo in 4v1 that will chase you to the ends of tamriel.

Bashev

ravenarc wrote: »

Aurielle wrote: »

ravenarc wrote: »

And deal with premades & cowards? No thanks.

Premades suck when you’re queued solo, but dealing with the cowards (by which I assume you mean stealthed NB snipetards) can be fun with the right potions.

https://youtu.be/v4pCysT3aGw

No.

Cowards like; One enemy team that is not engaging in combat until the other two groups have killed each other off and already have their resources depleted. There's also the natural cowards that always runs in 1v1 fights but a tough guy gone rambo in 4v1 that will chase you to the ends of tamriel.

But that is the same in Cyro? That is the nature for the players.

MajBludd

BG's are nice but become increasingly boring or frustrating after about 15mins.

Waffennacht

Love me some BGs

Creationofgod

i play BG a lot and always que solo!! im not in a guild that play pvp a lot!!

And i have been doing good , i have lots of fun playing it! not every time you play you will win !
And not all the great groups are premade, you just need to adjust your build for bg certain skills you use in cyro doesnt work well in BG!

Maybe try something else and adjust if your losing all the time ! maybe its not the premades but its you because you cant pull your weight ... because BG are only a 4 man team its more noticable when you suck at it

Bashev

Creationofgod wrote: »

i play BG a lot and always que solo!! im not in a guild that play pvp a lot!!

And i have been doing good , i have lots of fun playing it! not every time you play you will win !
And not all the great groups are premade, you just need to adjust your build for bg certain skills you use in cyro doesnt work well in BG!

Maybe try something else and adjust if your losing all the time ! maybe its not the premades but its you because you cant pull your weight ... because BG are only a 4 man team its more noticable when you suck at it

I agree. Exactly my experience.

BTW the worst fight that I have are when I am queued with 3 NBs. I play stam DK. Then suddenly the fights turn from 4-4-4 to 4-4-1. All NBs just retreat and wait to make some kills, but I am fully focused. It is so annoying.

Also it will be nice if the group composition is max 2 players from the same class.

dtsharples

BG's become so much more fun (IMO) once you do decide to go as a pre-made, even if that's just 2 or 3 out of the 4.
You can build to be a little more specific in your defence / offence, plan a strategy, choose skills that synergise well with each other etc etc.
For me BG's are the Equal playing field in ESO. Cyrodiil is a stinking mess of lag, and organised groups of 20 steamrolling over individual people. The scales are far too weighted in favour of large group play in Cyro, and I think that kills a lot of the fun, and individuality.
BG's on the other hand are much more even, and your actions as an individual play a much larger part in the success of your team.
I'd encourage anyone who usually likes PVP in other games - but hates Cyrodiil - to try out BG's.

frostz417

BG has a lot of potential. Zos just needs to do over with the stupid 3 teams and only do 2 teams.. also the fact that there’s literally always a 4v4v3 in every match even a 4v4v2 can **** itself. Don’t put me in a game where my 2 other teammates are cp200 and the opposing teams are full sweat premades so it just ends up being 4v4v1 and I get chased/focused every time I step foot out of my spawn point. You can thank that dog crap due to the atrocious ass MMR system.
Best to just make it an arena type play, and also. The maps could definitely use some rework. That new isturus outpost map is completely pitiful, I also love how the game has a complete hard on for this big pathetic piece of trash map and picks it 50% of the time. Don’t really care about objective so it’s not a big deal but I really hate the random map selection when half of the selected one is zos’s stupid big ishurust crap map.

Creationofgod

frostz417 wrote: »

BG has a lot of potential. Zos just needs to do over with the stupid 3 teams and only do 2 teams.. also the fact that there’s literally always a 4v4v3 in every match even a 4v4v2 can **** itself. Don’t put me in a game where my 2 other teammates are cp200 and the opposing teams are full sweat premades so it just ends up being 4v4v1 and I get chased/focused every time I step foot out of my spawn point. You can thank that dog crap due to the atrocious ass MMR system.
Best to just make it an arena type play, and also. The maps could definitely use some rework. That new isturus outpost map is completely pitiful, I also love how the game has a complete hard on for this big pathetic piece of trash map and picks it 50% of the time. Don’t really care about objective so it’s not a big deal but I really hate the random map selection when half of the selected one is zos’s stupid big ishurust crap map.

the whole point of BG is that CP level doesnt affect it........ i have seen people with cp 160 slaughter other with cp 600 like its nothing.

its just how you play and what armor you use

cazlonb16_ESO

Creationofgod wrote: »

frostz417 wrote: »

BG has a lot of potential. Zos just needs to do over with the stupid 3 teams and only do 2 teams.. also the fact that there’s literally always a 4v4v3 in every match even a 4v4v2 can **** itself. Don’t put me in a game where my 2 other teammates are cp200 and the opposing teams are full sweat premades so it just ends up being 4v4v1 and I get chased/focused every time I step foot out of my spawn point. You can thank that dog crap due to the atrocious ass MMR system.
Best to just make it an arena type play, and also. The maps could definitely use some rework. That new isturus outpost map is completely pitiful, I also love how the game has a complete hard on for this big pathetic piece of trash map and picks it 50% of the time. Don’t really care about objective so it’s not a big deal but I really hate the random map selection when half of the selected one is zos’s stupid big ishurust crap map.

the whole point of BG is that CP level doesnt affect it........ i have seen people with cp 160 slaughter other with cp 600 like its nothing.

its just how you play and what armor you use

That should read: Totally broken builds dominating.

ChunkyCat

Bashev wrote: »

BTW the worst fight that I have are when I am queued with 3 NBs. I play stam DK. Then suddenly the fights turn from 4-4-4 to 4-4-1. All NBs just retreat and wait to make some kills, but I am fully focused. It is so annoying.

I feel your pain

It’s not any better with 3 mag Sorcs and you’re the only melee.

Soris

wtb cp bgs

Emmagoldman

frostz417 wrote: »

BG has a lot of potential. Zos just needs to do over with the stupid 3 teams and only do 2 teams.. also the fact that there’s literally always a 4v4v3 in every match even a 4v4v2 can **** itself. Don’t put me in a game where my 2 other teammates are cp200 and the opposing teams are full sweat premades so it just ends up being 4v4v1 and I get chased/focused every time I step foot out of my spawn point. You can thank that dog crap due to the atrocious ass MMR system.
Best to just make it an arena type play, and also. The maps could definitely use some rework. That new isturus outpost map is completely pitiful, I also love how the game has a complete hard on for this big pathetic piece of trash map and picks it 50% of the time. Don’t really care about objective so it’s not a big deal but I really hate the random map selection when half of the selected one is zos’s stupid big ishurust crap map.

I like 3 teams, but there should be options for free for all, 4vs4 ect. 3 vs. 3 forces you to have situational awareness and pay attention to your position. 2 v 2 game would easily allow you to just focus on the one group.

Personally I like the new outpost map. Sure at times it takes longer to find the fight, but you can quickly mount and get back into it.

Overall, it's really about preferences. In general, battle grounds are pretty well done.

Swomp23

Stebarnz wrote: »

They need to fix the queue system so even if you queue as a group you get randomly grouped for the BG as premades ruin BG's.

That's actually very interesting. You can group with friends, but end up playing against them. I guess the only thing more fun that playin with your friend is wrecking him and then kindly T-bag him

Perwulf

Bashev wrote: »

ravenarc wrote: »

Aurielle wrote: »

ravenarc wrote: »

And deal with premades & cowards? No thanks.

Premades suck when you’re queued solo, but dealing with the cowards (by which I assume you mean stealthed NB snipetards) can be fun with the right potions.

https://youtu.be/v4pCysT3aGw

No.

Cowards like; One enemy team that is not engaging in combat until the other two groups have killed each other off and already have their resources depleted. There's also the natural cowards that always runs in 1v1 fights but a tough guy gone rambo in 4v1 that will chase you to the ends of tamriel.

But that is the same in Cyro? That is the nature for the players.

What?! No! Are you sure we're playing the same game?

I've been playing Cyrodiil for almost 3 years already and never that I felt that it's unfair because it is more PUG friendly, has more class diversity, and players are also more excited to fight instead of being a coward because you don't earn good AP if you're a coward in Cyrodiil.

Edit:
It is also exciting when a third faction contest for a keep because there's a sense of immersion where unlike in BG, it is more of an annoying rather than feeling immersed.

russelmmendoza

I dont get this at all. Queue for bg is less than a minute. Then I get spammed to get ready. Except someone is declining then it gets frustrating. But queue in bg is a minute or less. Or am I in the bottom of the mmr thingy. Dont even what the hell is this mmr anyways. F u mmr I dont even know you yet you mess with my fun. Die mmr.