ZOS..What did you do?

SirAndy · October 2018

susmitds wrote: »

If you can't solo non-DLC world bosses without shields, that's a problem on your end mate.

I'm flattered, but i already have a mate ...

MaleAmazon · October 2018

I don't think I've seen anyone complain about "overpowered" nightblade skills before. Or that people choosing this class because of this and exploit it somehow.

Go into Imperial City then

Death Stroke used to be superb, costing IIRC 50 ultimate. It is still really great. Same thing for swallow soul (I only use that morph). Siphoning strikes sort of just got boosted. They have changed NBs a lot, but at a fundamental level the ability to instacloak and then burst is just... not something you want to be on the receiving end of.

NBs have plenty of tricks up their sleeve. Oh and they are probably the most fun class to play in PvP if you play mostly solo or in PvP PUGs like I do.

Vahrokh · October 2018

starkerealm wrote: »

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

So, after a patch that TOOK FOREVER, I loaded my magblade and decided to solo a WB for a gold plunder skull (after I respected). Usually, no problem. Tonight, I could not maintain resources and the boss damn near killed me several times! What did you do? Game is broken...SO BAD!

@ZOS_GinaBruno

So, Harness Magicka no longer being hilariously overpowered means you can't run 4 man content alone anymore? That might be... what's the phrase?

Oh, I remember: "Working as intended."

Unless you are a stamina player. In that case, you are automatically granted a free pass to unnerfed content!

starkerealm · October 2018

Vahrokh wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

So, after a patch that TOOK FOREVER, I loaded my magblade and decided to solo a WB for a gold plunder skull (after I respected). Usually, no problem. Tonight, I could not maintain resources and the boss damn near killed me several times! What did you do? Game is broken...SO BAD!

@ZOS_GinaBruno

So, Harness Magicka no longer being hilariously overpowered means you can't run 4 man content alone anymore? That might be... what's the phrase?

Oh, I remember: "Working as intended."

Unless you are a stamina player. In that case, you are automatically granted a free pass to unnerfed content!

Because Evasion wasn't changed at all, right?

I mean, it's cool. I'm not too broken up about that. It's just kinda funny to see someone saying, "no Stam didn't lose anything."

RedRook · October 2018

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

So, after a patch that TOOK FOREVER, I loaded my magblade and decided to solo a WB for a gold plunder skull (after I respected). Usually, no problem. Tonight, I could not maintain resources and the boss damn near killed me several times! What did you do? Game is broken...SO BAD!

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Yep, magblade feels like crap now. Bye-bye fluid and fast combat, too much fun and not enough work.

Maybe now we'll invite healers to our parties. Apparently that was a big concern.

ezio45 · October 2018

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

Bouldercleave wrote: »

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

So, after a patch that TOOK FOREVER, I loaded my magblade and decided to solo a WB for a gold plunder skull (after I respected). Usually, no problem. Tonight, I could not maintain resources and the boss damn near killed me several times! What did you do? Game is broken...SO BAD!

@ZOS_GinaBruno

You know that you aren't supposed to be able to solo those, right?

Hasn't stopped me before...

Anyone who is a decent max lvl player should be able to solo a wb......

Azurya · October 2018

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

Time to find a new game...

will try A:IR as it comes, looks damn amazing
yesterday while looking around for something new as eso was down

Knootewoot · October 2018

Which WB was it. I didn't notice much difference myself. I only replaced healing path with cripple since it doesn't do damage anymore. Already I wasn't relying on shield for a while.

Didn't have any difficulty so far doing normal dungeons and WB's. Even Morrowind WB's I managed except that summoner, but I could not solo him before either.

red_emu · October 2018

If you are a MagBlade, the way ZOS wants you to play is: 7 x Heavy (with health glyphs), all points into health, attack only with heavy attacks. Heavey Armor / Zero sustain heavy attacks is the new meta.

Rotation? What rotation? ZOS doesn't like when we use abilities. They tire the hamsters out.

Sparr0w · October 2018

Yeah I've already geared up my MagPlar and StamDen for next patch, rip nightblades

coplannb16_ESO · October 2018

if anything this patch was a huge buff for mag and stamblades. yes some skills were adjusted and sustain was brought more in line with other classes (feel free to roll a mDK if you think your sustain is so bad now lol).

BUT

shield nerf made all light armor builds basically glass-cannons that die to the breath of a puppy so that is one arrow in the knee for every mag player, 2 for magSorcs

but then evasion changes basically is a 25% nerf to all aoe damage (build in Leki for everyone with access to evasion, so stam-classes and magblades).

which class has most class skills beeing AoE:
#1 DK (especially Leap, Breath, Inhale, Eruption, FoO, Spiked Armor, Talons... )
#2 Templar (you can argue Templar is #1 DK #2 or at the same level)
#3 Warden
#4 Sorc
#5 NB

Nbs had always a strong single target focus and still do, they have class access to evasion and the least downside to running into enemies with evasion.

straight pvp buff and 25% is a lot...

leveling magBlade now. my stamblade is fine, but I like the mag-gameplay better... see you soon in Cyro

Lysette · October 2018

What I find so interesting is - all the time people complain about the game not being challenging - then they get a challenge, like having to redo their character builds and eventually not being able to solo group content - and now they complain as well.

martinhpb16_ESO · October 2018

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

So, after a patch that TOOK FOREVER, I loaded my magblade and decided to solo a WB for a gold plunder skull (after I respected). Usually, no problem. Tonight, I could not maintain resources and the boss damn near killed me several times! What did you do? Game is broken...SO BAD!

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Good, finally we get a proper game back

Glurin · October 2018

New patch changes skills. You have two options.

1. "OMG! My build doesn't work anymore! ZoS ruined the game! It's dead! Time to find a new one. No way to fix it now."

2. "Hmm. This build doesn't work anymore. Lets try trading out this skill with that new one there, and maybe change this stat here... Ah ha! Now I got it. Time to go kick some more WB backsides and eat sweetrolls, and I'm all outta sweetrolls!"

TheInfernalRage · October 2018

Lysette wrote: »

What I find so interesting is - all the time people complain about the game not being challenging - then they get a challenge, like having to redo their character builds and eventually not being able to solo group content - and now they complain as well.

LMAO. IF ONLY I CAN HAVE THIS IN ALL CAPS AND IN BOLD.

People pretend they need the challenge in order to feel superior. When the challenge does come, oh well... whine and cry.

MetalHead4x4 · October 2018

TheInfernalRage wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

What I find so interesting is - all the time people complain about the game not being challenging - then they get a challenge, like having to redo their character builds and eventually not being able to solo group content - and now they complain as well.

LMAO. IF ONLY I CAN HAVE THIS IN ALL CAPS AND IN BOLD.

People pretend they need the challenge in order to feel superior. When the challenge does come, oh well... whine and cry.

The problem is, when you're in Cyro getting zerged by groups any nerf to your build is gonna hurt even more, you're not on a level playing field as it is so the zergs are just gonna kill you with even less effort.

albesca · October 2018

Glurin wrote: »

2. "Hmm. This build doesn't work anymore. Lets try trading out this skill with that new one there, and maybe change this stat here... Ah ha! Now I got it. Time to go kick some more WB backsides and eat sweetrolls, and I'm all outta sweetrolls!"

That would be reasonable and therefore preposterous.

There's also the problem that "This build doesn't work anymore" can mean any number of things, but usually means:

mobs that required me 0.4 seconds to dispatch now take 0.5 seconds, this is unacceptable
bosses I could kill while playing with one hand now require me to occasionally move, that is maddening
in pvp I can't tackle a bunch of players while sipping my favourite long drink, my life has no meaning anymore

That's the feeling I get reading the lamentations on the forum, anyway

Knootewoot · October 2018

Lysette wrote: »

What I find so interesting is - all the time people complain about the game not being challenging - then they get a challenge, like having to redo their character builds and eventually not being able to solo group content - and now they complain as well.

Aye

essi2 · October 2018

Sounds like the changes worked.

frostz417 · October 2018

Jhalin wrote: »

Bouldercleave wrote: »

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

So, after a patch that TOOK FOREVER, I loaded my magblade and decided to solo a WB for a gold plunder skull (after I respected). Usually, no problem. Tonight, I could not maintain resources and the boss damn near killed me several times! What did you do? Game is broken...SO BAD!

@ZOS_GinaBruno

You know that you aren't supposed to be able to solo those, right?

And yet it’s always been very simple once you know the basic game mechanics.

MagBlade costs went up across the board. You no longer have any damage on Refreshing, the damage of Funnel got halved, Swallow Soul does not provide Minor Vitaily anymore. Grim Focus and morphs have their cost doubled if you get 2 bows off during the duration. Blur and morphs lost Evasion, it instead gets damage reduction which is useless against WBs.

TLDR you now are forced to heavy attack to sustain your rotation, like every other class which sucks so much ass

So because you’re now in line with other classes you’re going to cry about it saying no fair? HAHAHAHAHAHHA

TheKingofSass · October 2018

Lmao, I had no problem soloing a wb for the Plunderskull and ticket last night on my magblade, without shield, rarely used one anyway. And sustain wasn't too awful, which I actually was anticipating, so I was surprised positively.

Sometimes the best defense is a good offense. Also not standing in stupid and paying attention to the situation also helps a lot.

Wearing 2 heavy pieces also works great. On all my mag&stam toons I prefer to have my monster sets in heavies. Boost my health and resistance better then wearing 1 light/1heavy or 1 stam/heavy.

redlink1979 · October 2018

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

What did you do?

You should have read the patch notes.

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO · October 2018

coplannb16_ESO wrote: »

if anything this patch was a huge buff for mag and stamblades. yes some skills were adjusted and sustain was brought more in line with other classes (feel free to roll a mDK if you think your sustain is so bad now lol).

BUT

shield nerf made all light armor builds basically glass-cannons that die to the breath of a puppy so that is one arrow in the knee for every mag player, 2 for magSorcs

but then evasion changes basically is a 25% nerf to all aoe damage (build in Leki for everyone with access to evasion, so stam-classes and magblades).

which class has most class skills beeing AoE:
#1 DK (especially Leap, Breath, Inhale, Eruption, FoO, Spiked Armor, Talons... )
#2 Templar (you can argue Templar is #1 DK #2 or at the same level)
#3 Warden
#4 Sorc
#5 NB

Nbs had always a strong single target focus and still do, they have class access to evasion and the least downside to running into enemies with evasion.

straight pvp buff and 25% is a lot...

leveling magBlade now. my stamblade is fine, but I like the mag-gameplay better... see you soon in Cyro

Not really everyone even NB use AoEs in PvP. Killing one guy and doing zero damage to all 23 of his friends will get you wiped unless that died guy is the healer and your group runs AoEs .