They listened! Annulment and Conjured Ward are back to insta cast

adeptusminor

I don't know about any else, but I'm breathing a sigh of relief.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/437982/class-reps-meeting-notes-september-25

firedrgn

Not sure if 40% of max health is worth it. Most run 20 k health thats only a 8k shield. Unless they nerf the cost i doubt it will get use.
Definitely will fix shield stacking.
Edit so i dont have to wear my fire proof underwear all night.

Anken5

Some stamina characters with bone shields will have better shields than magicka. Why still play magicka ?

SirDopey

hahahah capped at 40% of max health, Stamina is still going to be a better option

DorianDragonRaze

Good news!

Mykriz

I don't play mag toons at all but I'm very happy to see that ZOS listens and comes to a, hopefully, fair compromise.

As a stam sorc main I hope they listen just as well and give us a little love.

Troneon

They should just apply the cast time to sorcs

Anken5

Its nice from Zos to listen players, but the 40% health cap is really worse than the cast...

ccfeeling

40% max hp shield , you guys happy ?

It's huge nerf , I would rather pick 1 second cast time .

firedrgn

ccfeeling wrote: »

40% max hp shield , you guys happy ?

It's huge nerf , I would rather pick 1 second cast time .

Theu said they might give two morphs . 1 sec full shield. Instant 40% of health.

Kikke

Nerf to the mag stackers. Crittable still needs to be tested.

firedrgn

I am embarrassed..i had no idea i was such a ahiiity player because i used a shield on my magic toon. Its definatly my fault we getting a nerf cause i used what they gave me.

Anken5

firedrgn wrote: »

ccfeeling wrote: »

40% max hp shield , you guys happy ?

It's huge nerf , I would rather pick 1 second cast time .

Theu said they might give two morphs . 1 sec full shield. Instant 40% of health.

Seems the best compromise.

Massacre_Wurm

DorianDragonRaze wrote: »

Good news!

Where ? I dont see any cuz 40% is worse than 1 sec cast time.

ccfeeling

firedrgn wrote: »

ccfeeling wrote: »

40% max hp shield , you guys happy ?

It's huge nerf , I would rather pick 1 second cast time .

Theu said they might give two morphs . 1 sec full shield. Instant 40% of health.

Thanks info !!!

starkerealm

firedrgn wrote: »

Not sure if 40% of max health is worth it. Most run 20 k health thats only a 5k shield. Unless they nerf the cost i doubt it will get use.
Definitely will fix shield stacking.

40% of 20k Health would be 8k. Still. It will limit the ability to just mash out massive shields without warning.

ArchMikem

Well that sucks.

firedrgn

starkerealm wrote: »

firedrgn wrote: »

Not sure if 40% of max health is worth it. Most run 20 k health thats only a 5k shield. Unless they nerf the cost i doubt it will get use.
Definitely will fix shield stacking.

40% of 20k Health would be 8k. Still. It will limit the ability to just mash out massive shields without warning.

Lol rgr that thanks ...emotion up intellect down . Im guilty.

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO

every time sorcs get nerfed...I smile...inside >:3

ccfeeling

firedrgn wrote: »

ccfeeling wrote: »

40% max hp shield , you guys happy ?

It's huge nerf , I would rather pick 1 second cast time .

Theu said they might give two morphs . 1 sec full shield. Instant 40% of health.

Excuse me , which shield you are talking about . I'm worry about the Conjured Ward .

Annulment ?
Conjured Ward ?
both of them ?

Ackwalan

Shield stacking is OP. Good sorcs will adapt to the change, bad sorcs will complain about the change.

AlienatedGoat

firedrgn wrote: »

Not sure if 40% of max health is worth it. Most run 20 k health thats only a 5k shield. Unless they nerf the cost i doubt it will get use.
Definitely will fix shield stacking.

Your math needs work. 40% of 20k is 8k.

Besides, the actual average DPS HP is ~17k without Ebon or Minor Toughness.

Shield scaling should only take self buffs into account. 40% of 17k is less than 7k and that's crap. It's not worth running a 7k shield in endgame PvE.

Jhalin

I’m curious what the base ability is going to be? Instant cast 40% sounds fine as a base skill Annulment, but there’s gotta be more to a morph than that. They definitely can’t be asking mag users to start out using a 1s cast time ability, then morph into instant after every one is comfortable with the style of play on live.

Siohwenoeht

If they go with the morph option on annulment and taking the cast time morph, I wonder if you could block cast it with the psijic shield passive... Speaking from Templar point of view...

jaws343

An 8k max shield in PVP is useless. 1 hit that crits from most stam builds and the shield is gone. This may be worse that the cast time here. You will either never be able to keep your defense up reliably or all you will be doing is spamming the shield every second until you die. Especially when outnumbered.

In PVE, this seems ok. Not great, but the resistances on the shield and the inability for PVE to crit or reduce resistances make the shield stronger anyways. So 8K seems fine there.

Kikke

In noncp pvp your shield aint more than 8k anyway xD

BretonMage

Well, it’s good to know they do listen. And it’s good that we do get an option between instant cast and shield strength, at least. Though with a nerf to shield strength, now I’ll be forced to shield stack!

Though I’m curious, if shield-stacking is the concern, why don’t they just disallow shield-stacking?

firedrgn

ccfeeling wrote: »

firedrgn wrote: »

ccfeeling wrote: »

40% max hp shield , you guys happy ?

It's huge nerf , I would rather pick 1 second cast time .

Theu said they might give two morphs . 1 sec full shield. Instant 40% of health.

Excuse me , which shield you are talking about . I'm worry about the Conjured Ward .

Annulment ?
Conjured Ward ?
both of them ?

The Devs ended our conversation with the thought whether or not a morph choice would be well received, that is if one morph had a one-second cast time and you got a large shield and another morph which removed the cast-time, but you’d get a smaller shield (the strengths were not mentioned specifically).

Bladehawk

Reading the rep notes, it's clear ZOS's goal was to reduce the effectiveness of shields in PvE. It's good that they decided to nerf shields in a way that doesn't make gameplay more clunky or render them completely useless in PvP.

leepalmer95

It's like they're telling everyone to run heavy armour 30k hp builds.

So now light armour users the only glass cannons left in pvp are going to join the heavy armour high hp train in cp.

ccfeeling

Bladehawk wrote: »

Reading the rep notes, it's clear ZOS's goal was to reduce the effectiveness of shields in PvE. It's good that they decided to nerf shields in a way that doesn't make gameplay more clunky or render them completely useless in PvP.

Do pvpers join end game trial ?