Is Bonepirate + Shackle breaker too much sustain on Stam NB

miahus

haven't played stam NB for years, and was wondering if that combo is too much sustain and I'm better off using something else. Replies appreciated.

oXI_Viper_IXo

Ever since Morrowind, there's no such thing as too much sustain. You can always add to your damage with a monster helm & shoulders combo as well as with jewelry glyphs if you feel that you're lacking there.

BP & Shackle is a very viable combination.

Finviuswe

BP and Shackle is totally fine, but you just won't reach the big numbers with it.

Big weapon dmg numbers, that is. Sustain will be more than enough, and Shackle helps a lot with your magicka pool for cloak.

miahus

ESO_GOD wrote: »

BP and Shackle is totally fine, but you just won't reach the big numbers with it.

Big weapon dmg numbers, that is. Sustain will be more than enough, and Shackle helps a lot with your magicka pool for cloak.

so how do i reach the big numbers while still having a reasonable sustain>?

Skinzz

Your max stam pool will be your source of damage. I sometimes prefer high stam over high weapon damage.

miahus

xskinzcity wrote: »

Your max stam pool will be your source of damage. I sometimes prefer high stam over high weapon damage.

problem with that is max stam damage doesn't get buffed by major brutality, does it?

Skinzz

miahus wrote: »

xskinzcity wrote: »

Your max stam pool will be your source of damage. I sometimes prefer high stam over high weapon damage.

problem with that is max stam damage doesn't get buffed by major brutality, does it?

That is actually a great question. I've never thought of that but I always preferred hulking for all my builds. Hmm.

Finviuswe

miahus wrote: »

ESO_GOD wrote: »

BP and Shackle is totally fine, but you just won't reach the big numbers with it.

Big weapon dmg numbers, that is. Sustain will be more than enough, and Shackle helps a lot with your magicka pool for cloak.

so how do i reach the big numbers while still having a reasonable sustain>?

You can try something like Veiled Heritance, Ravager.

For medium you have senche, sheer venom grants two weapon damage bonuses off the top of my head.

You can try Air which is pretty much the same thing as senche, even pair it with senche a lot of people used to do this but neither of these sets were ever nerfed. That build can reach ridiculously high wpn dmg and sustain is fine. Stamblade sustain is usually pretty easy.

You can add in wpn dmg glyph on jewelry to further boost wpn dmg.

Finviuswe

And don't get me wrong, Shackle + BP is still very solid and nobody would ever fault you for running that, I wouldn't fault you for running that.

I just wonder if you'd even breach 4k wpn dmg with that setup, shackle gives 1 weapon dmg bonus, BP gives none (but a ton of stam), and neither proc weapon dmg or anything like that.

But sustain, of course, will be no issue. It would be a very convenient build to play, and you can always add wpn dmg glyphs to jewelry to further boost damage.

Skinzz

Run balorgh then problem solved lol. With bp I would most likely run 3 weapon damage enchants anyway.

kadar

That's not too much. You can just allocate everything else to damage.

SpiderCultist

for non-CP & BGs you would do alright with those sets

Qbiken

I run Shacklebreaker + Bonepirate + 1 Kena + 1 Bloodspawn. Sometimes I swap out 1 Kena + 1 Bloodspawn for full Trollking. Thing with stamblade is that you don´t have to stack insane amount of weapon damage or offensive stats to be able to kill someone. You can basically run a full sustain setup on a stamblade is still be able to kill almost any setup. Only builds I find hard to kill are the really tanky healbots and DK´s that build for nothing but survivability and tankiness.

leepalmer95

miahus wrote: »

xskinzcity wrote: »

Your max stam pool will be your source of damage. I sometimes prefer high stam over high weapon damage.

problem with that is max stam damage doesn't get buffed by major brutality, does it?

But it gets buffed by:

20% for having 300cp
2 - 6% from undaunted
Some from racials

With that setup you can reach around 40k stam and 4.2k~ wpn dmg.

jaws343

It is a very viable setup. You can run Balorgh for the burst weapon damage. And transmute all of your jewelry to infused and run weapon damage glyphs. Easily hit 4K+ buffed, even without Balorgh proc.

mursie

ESO_GOD wrote: »

And don't get me wrong, Shackle + BP is still very solid and nobody would ever fault you for running that, I wouldn't fault you for running that.
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I would fault you for that, in-fact, I'm already faulting you. you've been faulted. what say ye to the fault ye hath been faulted with?

faulter

CatchMeTrolling

You kill the average player with a minimum of 3k weapon damage on a stam blade. You have more tools at your disposal to drop an opponent than any other class.

If your weapon damage is in the 3k range you need to take note of your max stat and penetration. For an example my magblade has 3.1-3.2 spell damage. Doesn’t look so high but when you see that I have 45k max, berserk and 13k penetration in cp plus a burst opportunity with incap; it all starts to add up.