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What is Zo$ doing with my money....
Gnozo
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Hey,
On the weekend i was wondering what is zenimax doing with my money i spend on this game.
From my understanding they should Invest the money into the game again and ofc, paying the devs etc. But for me i dont see any improvements.
Devs introducing class/combat changes and sets (sloads, soldier) nobody ever asked for. Devs ignoring the Community and doing whatever they want with the game. For example the latest shield massacre.
I was playing pvp saturday evening with a friend. It was literally unplayable. We both played warden and it was a mess.
Dodge Roll locks your skills for 4-5 seconds. Cant cast any healing after a dodge roll. Was spamming the button but nothing happend.
Skills not working, tried to cast Momentum. My char was just trying to start the animation then canceled it without the skill firing off.
The beetles from scorch coming out after 5 seconds or more seconds. ONE BY ONE. Not all at once. No. One by one with 1 second between each. Impossible to time any burst....
Dizzy needs 5 - 10 seconds cast time and in this time your target is already out of range and the skill gets canceled.
Pressing the button 5 times before vigor fires off leaving me without healing or any buffs.....
PvP is literally unplayable in prime time. This game is not working when ppl want to play it.
Cyrodiil havent left Beta since now and there are no improvements except new content but bugs and lags never gets fixed
So, where does my money go? To put more cosmetics in the crown store? More mounts? I dont need the 48242 dress for roleplay reasons. I want to See IMPROVEMEMTS done to the game. Fix Lag and balance something.
What do you think? Do you See any improvements done to the game except new content wich wealso need to pay for?
On the weekend i was wondering what is zenimax doing with my money i spend on this game.
From my understanding they should Invest the money into the game again and ofc, paying the devs etc. But for me i dont see any improvements.
Devs introducing class/combat changes and sets (sloads, soldier) nobody ever asked for. Devs ignoring the Community and doing whatever they want with the game. For example the latest shield massacre.
I was playing pvp saturday evening with a friend. It was literally unplayable. We both played warden and it was a mess.
Dodge Roll locks your skills for 4-5 seconds. Cant cast any healing after a dodge roll. Was spamming the button but nothing happend.
Skills not working, tried to cast Momentum. My char was just trying to start the animation then canceled it without the skill firing off.
The beetles from scorch coming out after 5 seconds or more seconds. ONE BY ONE. Not all at once. No. One by one with 1 second between each. Impossible to time any burst....
Dizzy needs 5 - 10 seconds cast time and in this time your target is already out of range and the skill gets canceled.
Pressing the button 5 times before vigor fires off leaving me without healing or any buffs.....
PvP is literally unplayable in prime time. This game is not working when ppl want to play it.
Cyrodiil havent left Beta since now and there are no improvements except new content but bugs and lags never gets fixed
So, where does my money go? To put more cosmetics in the crown store? More mounts? I dont need the 48242 dress for roleplay reasons. I want to See IMPROVEMEMTS done to the game. Fix Lag and balance something.
What do you think? Do you See any improvements done to the game except new content wich wealso need to pay for?
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✭I don't know I'm fine with changes, It always bothered me that there were only sorcs running around because of bis
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Gnozo✭✭✭✭✭
✭DarkScatha wrote: »I don't know I'm fine with changes, It always bothered me that there were only sorcs running around because of bis
Sorc wasnt BiS since years. There are only Nightblades in pvp if you havent noticed. Anyway, lag is there regardless of class and they are doing no improvements to this making the game unplayable in prime time.
This is pathetic for a AAA-Game Developer. This game is out more then 4 years and the lag never gets adressed. Never seen this from a company this big.
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✭Creating new content and crown store items. Working on new art and visuals. Paying salaries and maintaining hardware. Paying back residuals.Legacy of Kain
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webrgesner✭✭✭✭I was about to write a post about this! I agree with you. I heard millions of people play eso therefor means they made atleeast 70mill or more on this game. And what im wondering is WHEN ARE THEY GONNA BUY NEW SERVERS3 -
webrgesner✭✭✭✭And another SIMPLE solution is to give us graphics option. I rather play in a *** cartoonish blury game running smooth than playing 1 fps in a good realistic looking game where my bottons dont work.
Im tired of getting stuck on a load screen after getting killed because of lag and delays then having to respawn at a camp 5 meters away from me then respawning in dead because of the 5 min load screen.
How can they put you in a freakin load screen for spawning at a camp/keep like 5 meters away from you?
I had respawned in a keep that WASNT flagged and being put in a long ass load screen that when i spawn in theres tons of enemies IN the keep taking it by the time i load in0 -
Gnozo✭✭✭✭✭
✭Creating new content and crown store items. Working on new art and visuals. Paying salaries and maintaining hardware. Paying back residuals.
Maintaining Hardware? You mean feeding the hamsters that run the Servers?
Performance is a mess in this game. Servers are uttergarbage.
Last year a bought a new pc for 3k Euros. And sometimes i get stable 20 fps in this game...20.... while games like bf1 run with 120 fps, 60 players on screen without any problems at all. But eso is at 20 fps while looking at a wall. GG zos.6 -
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✭They aren't doing anything with your money.
If you gave them your money, then it isn't yours anymore.
Edited by Androconium on September 24, 2018 7:32AM6 -
Gnozo✭✭✭✭✭
✭Androconium wrote: »They aren't doing anything with your money.
If you gave them your money, then it isn't yours anymore.
Best comment so far. Thank for sharing.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Yeah, devs releasing content faster then i can complete it, it’ll be better if they fix problems with well known persistent bugs1 -
Turelus✭✭✭✭✭
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FPS and servers are not related. ZOS could have the best servers in the world and still have shockingly bad FPS in ESO because the game is so CPU intensive on the clients end.Creating new content and crown store items. Working on new art and visuals. Paying salaries and maintaining hardware. Paying back residuals.
Maintaining Hardware? You mean feeding the hamsters that run the Servers?
Performance is a mess in this game. Servers are uttergarbage.
Last year a bought a new pc for 3k Euros. And sometimes i get stable 20 fps in this game...20.... while games like bf1 run with 120 fps, 60 players on screen without any problems at all. But eso is at 20 fps while looking at a wall. GG zos.
Additionally upgrading the servers whilst giving some improvements to lag issues won't be a silver bullet fix if the issues is how the game is coded/designs in regards to server calls and calculations.
LegacyDM is probably right though, some money will go to ZOS for maintaining ESO and ZOS, the rest will move up to Zenimax Media as the publisher.@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
"Don't count on others for help. In the end each of us is in this alone. The survivors are those who know how to look out for themselves."0 -
Ilithyania✭✭✭✭✭I have seen alotta game improvments to make the game more enjoyable, comparing this to BF1. GG ......
Killed Vet ranks on each toon
1 new class
1 new skilline
Outfit system
Weapon dye option
Transmute system to decrease gear farm time
BGs
able to group up cross faction in PvE and BGs
Gems system in Crown Crate
Jewlery crafting
Extra Inventory Chest space in you house
Daily Rewards for login.PC1 -
craftycarper73✭✭✭✭✭Getting pissed at a weekend, thats why when the servers go manky over the weekend you just have to put up with it..
Our money is spent on them having a jolly good time.
Born, Bred & Made in Manchester UK, RIP 22 Angels. 22/05/2017
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✭Ilithyania wrote: »I have seen alotta game improvments to make the game more enjoyable, comparing this to BF1. GG ......
Killed Vet ranks on each toon
1 new class
1 new skilline
Outfit system
Weapon dye option
Transmute system to decrease gear farm time
BGs
able to group up cross faction in PvE and BGs
Gems system in Crown Crate
Jewlery crafting
Extra Inventory Chest space in you house
Daily Rewards for login.
I only compared the fps to bf1 wich has much higher graphics then eso and runs with much higher fps. Thats all i said.
They havent adressed the main pain point in this game. The lag in prime time. If they fix the lag. Dude. So many players would come back. So many players would come to this game. Imagine Cyrodiil in prime time without lag. Imagine it. Thats heaven .
I would buy a dlc that is only Bug and Latency Fix for 100 Euros. Maybe with a 1 sec cast time on my payment.0 -
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And as ZOS keep saying, if they could address lag by flicking a switch they would. The lag sucks, it really does, but there isn't an easy fix for it.Ilithyania wrote: »I have seen alotta game improvments to make the game more enjoyable, comparing this to BF1. GG ......
Killed Vet ranks on each toon
1 new class
1 new skilline
Outfit system
Weapon dye option
Transmute system to decrease gear farm time
BGs
able to group up cross faction in PvE and BGs
Gems system in Crown Crate
Jewlery crafting
Extra Inventory Chest space in you house
Daily Rewards for login.
I only compared the fps to bf1 wich has much higher graphics then eso and runs with much higher fps. Thats all i said.
They havent adressed the main pain point in this game. The lag in prime time. If they fix the lag. Dude. So many players would come back. So many players would come to this game. Imagine Cyrodiil in prime time without lag. Imagine it. Thats heaven .
I would buy a dlc that is only Bug and Latency Fix for 100 Euros. Maybe with a 1 sec cast time on my payment.
@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
"Don't count on others for help. In the end each of us is in this alone. The survivors are those who know how to look out for themselves."0 -
RedTalon✭✭✭✭✭Sorcs became so popular because they where the only class over the years not to suffer a major balance change.
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Then you understand as much as Jon Snow I reckon...From my understanding they should Invest the money into the game again and ofc, paying the devs etc.
I mean, sure, they do pay the bills with what they take from you and others spending on the game. Server upkeep. Code jockeys doing maintenance and implemeting patches. Developers working on the next thing to sell, be it DLC, Expansion or Crown Store stuff.
But at the end of the day, they also need to show a big pile of "profit" to make the shareholders happy, or the suits in charge will pull the plugs on the servers and sell off the assets as "bad business ventrue".
Welcome to capitalism!
Of course, without those "greedy capitalists" making a game to generate those profits, we'd be playing tetris... 1 -
SpiderCultist✭✭✭✭✭tuning Wrobel's car? flame tires and suchSorcs became so popular because they where the only class over the years not to suffer a major balance change.
The changes are fine and people where adapt
People won't adapt because changes make sorcs unadaptable. What do we have as an alternative? HA -> that's a big no-no (no sustain, no damage); LA that mitigate damage -> another no-no (no damage, not enough mitigation). Sorcs either way are losing all their burst and people won't play them.PC | EU
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And as ZOS keep saying, if they could address lag by flicking a switch they would. The lag sucks, it really does, but there isn't an easy fix for it.Ilithyania wrote: »I have seen alotta game improvments to make the game more enjoyable, comparing this to BF1. GG ......
Killed Vet ranks on each toon
1 new class
1 new skilline
Outfit system
Weapon dye option
Transmute system to decrease gear farm time
BGs
able to group up cross faction in PvE and BGs
Gems system in Crown Crate
Jewlery crafting
Extra Inventory Chest space in you house
Daily Rewards for login.
I only compared the fps to bf1 wich has much higher graphics then eso and runs with much higher fps. Thats all i said.
They havent adressed the main pain point in this game. The lag in prime time. If they fix the lag. Dude. So many players would come back. So many players would come to this game. Imagine Cyrodiil in prime time without lag. Imagine it. Thats heaven .
I would buy a dlc that is only Bug and Latency Fix for 100 Euros. Maybe with a 1 sec cast time on my payment.
Ofc the fix wont be easy and time/money consuming and it also wouldnt generate as much money as releasing a new dlc in a short term. But investing the time/money for fixing overdue problems of the game will bring much more money in a long term then any dlc/chapter would do. But i think long term dont make the shareholders happy.0 -
shaielzafine✭✭✭✭✭They've done improvements to the crown store log in ads, lol. Now I can see a humongous ad of what to buy in the crown store everytime I log in, and a reminder when logging out to come log back in. Instead of me wanting to see what's on sale, it's shoved in my face. As for Cyrodiil, I completely agree with you about everything. I miss playing with guildies but the state of PvP is so bad right now, I am glad I found a different game to pvp in. Overland ESO is ok of course, casual gameplay and doing writs lags and has high ping spikes now and then but it's not as bad as in Cyrodiil or trials. TBH, I don't know what ZOS is spending their money on. Maybe more marketing for summerset and more new things coming up. I dont know about server maintenance or bug fixes or improvements. I'd love if they get a new combat team so PVP balance isn't so bad.0
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Zoal_AUG✭✭✭Your dodge roll locks and fps latency is not rly fixable, it depends on your cpu, internet connection and also server load.
Not listening to community well this is not true since shieldstackers are not entirely eso community so we (non shield boys) been asking for this like for years now.
Personally i run a i7-3770 cpu with gtx 980 ti pretty old system but it works pretty well i got pretty good connection so i dont have this awful lag and fps issues. I highly recomend like must have game on an SSD if u wanna play it normally.
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✭✭✭.Edited by Dojohoda on September 24, 2018 8:27AMFan of playing magblade since 2015. (PC NA)
Might be joking in comments.
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Gnozo✭✭✭✭✭
✭Your dodge roll locks and fps latency is not rly fixable, it depends on your cpu, internet connection and also server load.
Not listening to community well this is not true since shieldstackers are not entirely eso community so we (non shield boys) been asking for this like for years now.
Personally i run a i7-3770 cpu with gtx 980 ti pretty old system but it works pretty well i got pretty good connection so i dont have this awful lag and fps issues. I highly recomend like must have game on an SSD if u wanna play it normally.
Excuse me what?
Skills not unlocking for 5 seconds after i dodge roll is my fault? My connection is 200mbit/s that should me more then enough.
So you have been asking for a 1 second cast times on shields? From what you can See in the forum maybe 5% of the players are happy about this Change.
And ofc this game runs on an SSD. If you dont have lag like you say, get a templar and start jabbing into the guards on a ressource flag in prime time. After this, tell me again that you dont have lag.
Players who say they dont have lag in prime time are the light attack spammers inside the zerg. No competetive player ever said he has no lag in cyro .1 -
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FPS and servers are not related. ZOS could have the best servers in the world and still have shockingly bad FPS in ESO because the game is so CPU intensive on the clients end.Creating new content and crown store items. Working on new art and visuals. Paying salaries and maintaining hardware. Paying back residuals.
Maintaining Hardware? You mean feeding the hamsters that run the Servers?
Performance is a mess in this game. Servers are uttergarbage.
Last year a bought a new pc for 3k Euros. And sometimes i get stable 20 fps in this game...20.... while games like bf1 run with 120 fps, 60 players on screen without any problems at all. But eso is at 20 fps while looking at a wall. GG zos.
Additionally upgrading the servers whilst giving some improvements to lag issues won't be a silver bullet fix if the issues is how the game is coded/designs in regards to server calls and calculations.
LegacyDM is probably right though, some money will go to ZOS for maintaining ESO and ZOS, the rest will move up to Zenimax Media as the publisher.
The problem is that the servers are here in the US. There should be a EU server in EU. Now, I don't get lag in game, live in the US, but the load screens are amazingly long and I'm sure the EU people are getting crap loads of lag.0 -
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✭✭Lootboxes? Lootboxes!
aka gamblingProfanity filter is a crime against the freedom of speech. Also gags.0 -
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✭ZoS is doing whatever they want with it because it isnt your money. Its theirs now and as youre a consumer and not an investor they are under no obligation to do anything for you aside from provide a service.
Real talk though, theyre using it to pay people to draw up more shiny bits for us to buy with crowns.0 -
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EU server is in the EU, in Frankfurt Germany.Sevalaricgirl wrote: »
FPS and servers are not related. ZOS could have the best servers in the world and still have shockingly bad FPS in ESO because the game is so CPU intensive on the clients end.Creating new content and crown store items. Working on new art and visuals. Paying salaries and maintaining hardware. Paying back residuals.
Maintaining Hardware? You mean feeding the hamsters that run the Servers?
Performance is a mess in this game. Servers are uttergarbage.
Last year a bought a new pc for 3k Euros. And sometimes i get stable 20 fps in this game...20.... while games like bf1 run with 120 fps, 60 players on screen without any problems at all. But eso is at 20 fps while looking at a wall. GG zos.
Additionally upgrading the servers whilst giving some improvements to lag issues won't be a silver bullet fix if the issues is how the game is coded/designs in regards to server calls and calculations.
LegacyDM is probably right though, some money will go to ZOS for maintaining ESO and ZOS, the rest will move up to Zenimax Media as the publisher.
The problem is that the servers are here in the US. There should be a EU server in EU. Now, I don't get lag in game, live in the US, but the load screens are amazingly long and I'm sure the EU people are getting crap loads of lag.
@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
"Don't count on others for help. In the end each of us is in this alone. The survivors are those who know how to look out for themselves."0
