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Should 4 man arena be in activity finder? DSA and blackrose prison arena
akl77
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What’s your opinion?
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Should 4 man arena be in activity finder? DSA and blackrose prison arena 125 votes
Yes
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100 votes
No
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Other
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akl77✭✭✭✭✭
✭YesImo, if dlc dungeons can be pugged, why not 4 man arenas?? I don’t get it ZOS.
Dsa is no way near as hard as dlc hard mode, yet we can pug dlc dungeons in activity finder and activate hm.
I pug dsa all the time by asking in zones.
It’s still the same as pugging it, we don’t talk on mic and they never done it before and dps bad like dungeon pugs, but it’s still fun.
And do you know how much pain it is to get together a group.. you’re basically locking the good game content behind the door.
If we do want to get a proper group for a good score we can still do so, just like dlc dungeons skin achievements, you find proper people for these.
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsomEdited by akl77 on September 18, 2018 12:18AMPc na2 -
SquareSausage✭✭✭✭✭No99% failure rate on vet I foresee.
Even with minimum CP requirements etc it's still gonna be a lolocopter of fails.
Ppl leaving group and no replacements coming in.
Generaly the content is too long for most pugs to handle.Breakfast KingPS4 EU1 -
Lyserus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭OtherLeaning heavily towards No.
The reason I choose other is because, it might not be bad as long as they are optional, and not included in daily random queue.
I am all for normal trial in group finder and 4 dps team for normal group finder, since they will solve part of the long dps queue problem.
However, randomly throwing ppl in a 10 step arena just takes too long and too uncertain , especially if ppl were just trying to finish random daily （even if things go well, it would still be easier to quit, suffer 15min penalty and queue for a normal dungeon）0 -
akl77✭✭✭✭✭
✭YesNo it does not 99% fail, I pug it all the time just asking people in zone chat as I said, and it’s a pain to ask in zones. The pug group get through it so many times even on weekly and all time leaderboard score.
Also the queue of course it’s different from dungeon queues, it’s an arena by itself queue, it won’t be in your daily randoms.
And as I said dlc hm are much harder than vdsa x2 and people still pug dlc hm so what’s the issue?
If you still think it’s too hard, what about normal dsa queue? People can queue it to learn, it’s no different to dlc normal in activity finder.
Again why lock good game content behind cos people can’t find a group in zone cos there’s no convenience of a queue finder.Edited by akl77 on September 18, 2018 10:33AMPc na0 -
Jeremy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭YesWhat’s your opinion?
I'd like to see it added to the activity finder. It's probably going to be an instant death fest on veteran. So it will have a less than stellar ratio for success. I can't argue with those who say that.
But I would still like to have the option available to try. No one is being forced to pug it if they don't want to. So what's the harm in adding it?Edited by Jeremy on September 18, 2018 10:42AM1 -
akl77✭✭✭✭✭
✭YesWhat’s your opinion?
I'd like to see it added to the activity finder. It's probably going to be an instant death fest on veteran. So it will have a less than stellar ratio for success. I can't argue with those who say that.
But I would still like to have the option available to try. No one is being forced to pug it if they don't want to. So what's the harm in adding it?
Trust me, it’s not an instant death fest, I pug it all the time from zone chat with dps that doesn’t even survive in vet dungeons and doesn’t know what a rotation is. We still get to the end within 2 hours max.Pc na0 -
Radox0✭✭YesYes, why not add more options. If people fail will quickly realise they need to learn (on normal?) and get more proficient individually before going in again (or one hopes)1 -
Lifsteinn✭✭✭OtherYes, I think that should be an activity finder for those, but No for the way it is.
This is my idea:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/435998/arenas-and-trials-finder
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greylox✭✭✭✭✭YesMight as wellPC EU
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sevomd69✭✭✭✭✭
✭OthervDSA with a "fake" tank" would be quite interesting...and not in a good way...1 -
Kolache✭✭✭✭OtherI want to say yes but the current system doesn't even work for a large amount of PUGs in vet DLC dungeons.
IMO, there needs to be some sort of unlocking method for queueing for more difficult content first. Even requiring you to have completed it once already before with a premade group (prior to random queueing) would be better than nothing. Even requiring you to have completed the normal version first would be better than nothing.
Edited by Kolache on September 18, 2018 12:57PMSomething being unbalanced in 1v1 does not imply that it is balanced in group play.0 -
Guppet✭✭✭✭✭
✭YesThey should have normal versions in group finder at the very least. Then people can use it as a taster to see if they want to commit to doing it on vet.
Normal everything should be in groupfinder.0 -
jaws343✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭YesFor normal yes. Maybe not vet.
And for those who say no, it's not like you have to use it. No reason to be opposed to a feature that others may find usefull that has zero impact on your experience.1 -
Odovacar✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭NoI would have to say no because I'm bitter, lol. I had to put together a viable team for DSA, just like trials are too. This is part of the game. You meet guildies, or players you've played with and put together a "team", for special content that is. Dungeons are a different story IMO.
Can you imagine all the threads we would have to endure about Pug'n VDSA & BRP disasters?
Find a team and rock it out, its not that difficult.0 -
AhPook_Is_Here✭✭✭✭✭
✭YesI think it should be; I can imagine at first most of the pugs will be bad experiences, but after some time people who can't do the content will stop queuing hoping for a bus ride and failing for the X^6 time. In a few weeks the pug quality will improve and groups will get the content done and it will be faster and easier way to get a group going than waiting for friends to log in (esp after the coming nerfs).“Whatever.”
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SilverWF✭✭✭✭✭
✭YesAnd also any 12-men too. 99% of them a random PUGs from Craglorn zone chat anyway, so who cares?
But make them a restricted for 300cp and lower.- PC EU. Ebonheart Pact. CP 1k+
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✭OtherDoesn't matter. With rewards that nobody is gonna use, it's already as obsolete as DSA anyway.
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Xoelarasizerer✭✭✭Yesimo, at least Normal arenas and trials should be added to activity finder.
Veteran versions are another story.0 -
karekiz✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭YesVDSA isn't really hard, just long.
Don't include trials into random que. Only specific que with lets say 600 CP min <WAY over kill btw>.Edited by karekiz on September 18, 2018 2:53PM0 -
akl77✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes80% said yes, does ZOS ever thought about this nowadays or are they so focused on other things and can’t think outside the box to improve the game? What age is a game that you have to manually find a group.
And stop saying you’ll get queued with bad people, what if you get queued with 3 other experienced player just like me that want to dsa for fun cos it’s more interesting than dungeons. Also it’s only one hour to complete how is it long.
People stuck in dlc dungeons for 4 hours.
@ZOS_RichLambertEdited by akl77 on September 18, 2018 10:02PMPc na0 -
Hostee✭✭✭NoAnything that has actual mechanics that can’t be DPS’d through should not be in activity finder imo.... If you ever have gotten fang lair or scalecaller in activity finder then you already know 😁1
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akl77✭✭✭✭✭
✭YesAnything that has actual mechanics that can’t be DPS’d through should not be in activity finder imo.... If you ever have gotten fang lair or scalecaller in activity finder then you already know 😁
I pugged all vet dlc dungeons and vdsa successfully, and don’t have issues teaching them how to do the contents.Pc na0 -
SquareSausage✭✭✭✭✭NoWhat’s your opinion?
I'd like to see it added to the activity finder. It's probably going to be an instant death fest on veteran. So it will have a less than stellar ratio for success. I can't argue with those who say that.
But I would still like to have the option available to try. No one is being forced to pug it if they don't want to. So what's the harm in adding it?
Trust me, it’s not an instant death fest, I pug it all the time from zone chat with dps that doesn’t even survive in vet dungeons and doesn’t know what a rotation is. We still get to the end within 2 hours max.
Dude, have you never read the threads of people getting wiped out on normal non dlc dungeons via activity finder lol.
Activity Finder queue is a lot wore in standards than the zone chat pick up group.
Queue in to vDSA, get a cp10 fake tank in full medium level 35 viper set he had picked up in fungal grotto, a dps with sword and board who doesnt realise ransack is a taunt, an orc DK healer in heavy armour and yourself.
nah f** that take the 15 min timer penalty.Breakfast KingPS4 EU0 -
akl77✭✭✭✭✭
✭YesSquareSausage wrote: »What’s your opinion?
I'd like to see it added to the activity finder. It's probably going to be an instant death fest on veteran. So it will have a less than stellar ratio for success. I can't argue with those who say that.
But I would still like to have the option available to try. No one is being forced to pug it if they don't want to. So what's the harm in adding it?
Trust me, it’s not an instant death fest, I pug it all the time from zone chat with dps that doesn’t even survive in vet dungeons and doesn’t know what a rotation is. We still get to the end within 2 hours max.
Dude, have you never read the threads of people getting wiped out on normal non dlc dungeons via activity finder lol.
Activity Finder queue is a lot wore in standards than the zone chat pick up group.
Queue in to vDSA, get a cp10 fake tank in full medium level 35 viper set he had picked up in fungal grotto, a dps with sword and board who doesnt realise ransack is a taunt, an orc DK healer in heavy armour and yourself.
nah f** that take the 15 min timer penalty.
Yea but if recent dlc dungeons are in queue and it’s harder than vdsa then why vdsa don’t have a separate queue?
My other poll indicated everyone agree dlc dungeons are harder than vdsa.Pc na0
