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Champion of the Hist (Heavy) Set
Yngol
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Champion of the Hist (Heavy)
2: Weapon Damage
3: Max Stamina
4: Max Stamina
5: Gain Minor Heroism at all times while you are in combat, generating 1 Ultimate every 1.5 seconds.
The 5-piece bonus of this set already exists Zos.
Shalk Exoskeleton Set
(2 items) Adds 1206 Max Health
(3 items) Adds 129 Spell Damage
(4 items) Adds 833 Spell Critical
(5 items) Gain Minor Heroism at all times while in combat, generating 1 Ultimate every 1.5 seconds.
To my knowledge, no two 5set bonuses are identical. Please don't let this be the first one, it would set an awful precedent
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_RichLambert
2: Weapon Damage
3: Max Stamina
4: Max Stamina
5: Gain Minor Heroism at all times while you are in combat, generating 1 Ultimate every 1.5 seconds.
The 5-piece bonus of this set already exists Zos.
Shalk Exoskeleton Set
(2 items) Adds 1206 Max Health
(3 items) Adds 129 Spell Damage
(4 items) Adds 833 Spell Critical
(5 items) Gain Minor Heroism at all times while in combat, generating 1 Ultimate every 1.5 seconds.
To my knowledge, no two 5set bonuses are identical. Please don't let this be the first one, it would set an awful precedent
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_RichLambert
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Lord_Eomer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Champion of the Hist (Heavy)
2: Weapon Damage
3: Max Stamina
4: Max Stamina
5: Gain Minor Heroism at all times while you are in combat, generating 1 Ultimate every 1.5 seconds.
The 5-piece bonus of this set already exists Zos.
Shalk Exoskeleton Set
(2 items) Adds 1206 Max Health
(3 items) Adds 129 Spell Damage
(4 items) Adds 833 Spell Critical
(5 items) Gain Minor Heroism at all times while in combat, generating 1 Ultimate every 1.5 seconds.
To my knowledge, no two 5set bonuses are identical. Please don't let this be the first one, it would set an awful precedent
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_RichLambert
Champion of hist is designed for stam pvp heavy armor setup, its 1st and 3rd piece bonus are way more better than shalk setEdited by Lord_Eomer on September 17, 2018 5:35PM1 -
Yngol✭✭✭My point still stands though. No 2 sets have the same 5piece bonus other than certain trial sets. Is this really such a largely requested set that it would be afforded a status of War Machine and Master Architect?
Not to mention that minor heroism is more readily avaliable to stamina characters through heroic slash. 0 -
Hibernato✭✭✭pls delete this set too then
Murkmire Dropped Sets
Bright-Throat’s Boast (Light)
2: Max Magicka
3: Max Magicka
4: Magicka Recovery
5: While you have a drink buff active, your Max Magicka is increased by 2000 and Magicka Recovery 150.
this reminds me of bonepirate too much
Edited by Hibernato on September 17, 2018 6:05PM5 -
Yngol✭✭✭pls delete this set too then
Murkmire Dropped Sets
Bright-Throat’s Boast (Light)
2: Max Magicka
3: Max Magicka
4: Magicka Recovery
5: While you have a drink buff active, your Max Magicka is increased by 2000 and Magicka Recovery 150.
this reminds me of bonepirate too much
The 5piece is not the same as bone pirate..... It's just the magicka equivalent of it.. whereas in the case of the sets I mentioned they are identical 5piece bonuses
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Lord_Eomer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭pls delete this set too then
Murkmire Dropped Sets
Bright-Throat’s Boast (Light)
2: Max Magicka
3: Max Magicka
4: Magicka Recovery
5: While you have a drink buff active, your Max Magicka is increased by 2000 and Magicka Recovery 150.
this reminds me of bonepirate too much
This is one of best wanted set for magicka!1 -
Hibernato✭✭✭pls delete this set too then
Murkmire Dropped Sets
Bright-Throat’s Boast (Light)
2: Max Magicka
3: Max Magicka
4: Magicka Recovery
5: While you have a drink buff active, your Max Magicka is increased by 2000 and Magicka Recovery 150.
this reminds me of bonepirate too much
The 5piece is not the same as bone pirate..... It's just the magicka equivalent of it.. whereas in the case of the sets I mentioned they are identical 5piece bonuses
and the one in your op is the stamina equivalent
no stamina user will use shalk
@Lord_Dexter It was sarcasm i was poking fun at how silly OP is4 -
Valrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Champion of the Hist (Heavy)
2: Weapon Damage
3: Max Stamina
4: Max Stamina
5: Gain Minor Heroism at all times while you are in combat, generating 1 Ultimate every 1.5 seconds.
The 5-piece bonus of this set already exists Zos.
Shalk Exoskeleton Set
(2 items) Adds 1206 Max Health
(3 items) Adds 129 Spell Damage
(4 items) Adds 833 Spell Critical
(5 items) Gain Minor Heroism at all times while in combat, generating 1 Ultimate every 1.5 seconds.
To my knowledge, no two 5set bonuses are identical. Please don't let this be the first one, it would set an awful precedent
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_RichLambert
War Machine + Master Architect
One mag, one stam. This has precedentValrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake0 -
Yngol✭✭✭Champion of the Hist (Heavy)
2: Weapon Damage
3: Max Stamina
4: Max Stamina
5: Gain Minor Heroism at all times while you are in combat, generating 1 Ultimate every 1.5 seconds.
The 5-piece bonus of this set already exists Zos.
Shalk Exoskeleton Set
(2 items) Adds 1206 Max Health
(3 items) Adds 129 Spell Damage
(4 items) Adds 833 Spell Critical
(5 items) Gain Minor Heroism at all times while in combat, generating 1 Ultimate every 1.5 seconds.
To my knowledge, no two 5set bonuses are identical. Please don't let this be the first one, it would set an awful precedent
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_RichLambert
War Machine + Master Architect
One mag, one stam. This has precedent
If you read my follow-up, I mentioned those
let me quote: o 2 sets have the same 5piece bonus other than certain trial sets. Is this really such a largely requested set that it would be afforded a status of War Machine and Master Architect? 0 -
Yngol✭✭✭pls delete this set too then
Murkmire Dropped Sets
Bright-Throat’s Boast (Light)
2: Max Magicka
3: Max Magicka
4: Magicka Recovery
5: While you have a drink buff active, your Max Magicka is increased by 2000 and Magicka Recovery 150.
this reminds me of bonepirate too much
The 5piece is not the same as bone pirate..... It's just the magicka equivalent of it.. whereas in the case of the sets I mentioned they are identical 5piece bonuses
and the one in your op is the stamina equivalent
no stamina user will use shalk
@Lord_Dexter It was sarcasm i was poking fun at how silly OP is
No, it's not, because the 5pc is IDENTICAL, not the stamina equivalent
I'm not saying that the 2-4 piece bonuses are not different Edited by Yngol on September 17, 2018 6:33PM0 -
Sharee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭pls delete this set too then
Murkmire Dropped Sets
Bright-Throat’s Boast (Light)
2: Max Magicka
3: Max Magicka
4: Magicka Recovery
5: While you have a drink buff active, your Max Magicka is increased by 2000 and Magicka Recovery 150.
this reminds me of bonepirate too much
The 5piece is not the same as bone pirate..... It's just the magicka equivalent of it.. whereas in the case of the sets I mentioned they are identical 5piece bonuses
and the one in your op is the stamina equivalent
no stamina user will use shalk
@Lord_Dexter It was sarcasm i was poking fun at how silly OP is
No, it's not, because the 5pc is IDENTICAL, not the stamina equivalent I'm not saying that the 2-4 piece bonuses are not different
They are identical because ultimate generation is identical between mag and stam builds. If there was "magicka ult" and "stamina ult" then you would see a difference here as well. The intent is clear, to provide parity between mag/stam when it comes to these sets.3 -
Yngol✭✭✭pls delete this set too then
Murkmire Dropped Sets
Bright-Throat’s Boast (Light)
2: Max Magicka
3: Max Magicka
4: Magicka Recovery
5: While you have a drink buff active, your Max Magicka is increased by 2000 and Magicka Recovery 150.
this reminds me of bonepirate too much
The 5piece is not the same as bone pirate..... It's just the magicka equivalent of it.. whereas in the case of the sets I mentioned they are identical 5piece bonuses
and the one in your op is the stamina equivalent
no stamina user will use shalk
@Lord_Dexter It was sarcasm i was poking fun at how silly OP is
No, it's not, because the 5pc is IDENTICAL, not the stamina equivalent I'm not saying that the 2-4 piece bonuses are not different
They are identical because ultimate generation is identical between mag and stam builds. If there was "magicka ult" and "stamina ult" then you would see a difference here as well. The intent is clear, to provide parity between mag/stam when it comes to these sets.
That is fair enough, but minor heroism is already more accessible to stamina specs. In fact, the only two skils that grant it (heroic slash and carve) are stamina skills. This new set's bonuses are also a lot better than shalks, by the way. So in the spirit of equality, maybe the bonuses should be
(2 items) Adds 1206 Max Health
(3 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
(4 items) Adds 833 Weapon CriticalEdited by Yngol on September 17, 2018 6:53PM0 -
JAwtunes✭✭✭✭I guess another example in the notes is:
Battlefield Acrobat (Medium) - 5: Reduces the cost of all your abilities by 6%.
Robes of Alteration Mastery - 5: Reduces the cost of all of your abilities by 6%.
I'm not too fussed either way tbh, and when I read this I forgave everything that came before it in the notes:
"Decreased the effectiveness of poisons that increase Magicka and Stamina costs to a 10% cost increase, previously 30%"
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sneakymitchell✭✭✭✭I guess another example in the notes is:
Battlefield Acrobat (Medium) - 5: Reduces the cost of all your abilities by 6%.
Robes of Alteration Mastery - 5: Reduces the cost of all of your abilities by 6%.
I'm not too fussed either way tbh, and when I read this I forgave everything that came before it in the notes:
"Decreased the effectiveness of poisons that increase Magicka and Stamina costs to a 10% cost increase, previously 30%"
Does the sets effect on the cost reduction on ultimates as well? Since they are considered “abilities” with ultimate in them.NA-Xbox one- Ebonheart Pact- Nord Tank DK
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Ladislao✭✭✭✭✭sneakymitchell wrote: »I guess another example in the notes is:
Battlefield Acrobat (Medium) - 5: Reduces the cost of all your abilities by 6%.
Robes of Alteration Mastery - 5: Reduces the cost of all of your abilities by 6%.
I'm not too fussed either way tbh, and when I read this I forgave everything that came before it in the notes:
"Decreased the effectiveness of poisons that increase Magicka and Stamina costs to a 10% cost increase, previously 30%"
Does the sets effect on the cost reduction on ultimates as well? Since they are considered “abilities” with ultimate in them.
It does. Also they reduce block cost, dodge roll cost, etc. Any resource consumption actually.Everything is viable2 -
usmcjdking✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I understand the post, but I'm not following on the concern.
How exactly is this a bad precedent? We have gear with identical 5pc's, inverted 5pcs, hybrid gear. I'm not exactly sure why this is something the be concerned about.0331
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Emma_Overload✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭My point still stands though. No 2 sets have the same 5piece bonus other than certain trial sets. Is this really such a largely requested set that it would be afforded a status of War Machine and Master Architect? Not to mention that minor heroism is more readily avaliable to stamina characters through heroic slash.
Julianos and Hundings are identical in terms of their effect on the wearer's build. Nobody is complaining.#CAREBEARMASTERRACE2 -
Feanor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I’d prefer focusing on the problems we already have instead of artificially creating new ones.Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 46 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard StamplarAll chars 50 @ CP 1700+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.4 -
mague✭✭✭✭✭My point still stands though. No 2 sets have the same 5piece bonus other than certain trial sets. Is this really such a largely requested set that it would be afforded a status of War Machine and Master Architect? Not to mention that minor heroism is more readily avaliable to stamina characters through heroic slash.
Thats technically wrong. Plaquedocktor and Brass are basically the same too. And there is a set that does the same to magica, i just cant remember the name atm.
Every stam build who wants to try a ulti build waited for this set.
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Mayrael✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I’d prefer focusing on the problems we already have instead of artificially creating new ones.
This. Maybe OP would like to have more powerful stamina set, something that would suit his build more
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IZZEFlameLash✭✭✭✭✭
✭Though this set's 5pc is really redundant for stam as they have easy access to it with Heroic Slash. Given the armor weight, this is a tank set supposedly?Edited by IZZEFlameLash on October 11, 2018 7:17AMImperials, the one and true masters of all mortal races of Tamriel0 -
Feanor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭IZZEFlameLash wrote: »Though this set's 5pc is really redundant for stam as they have easy access to it with Heroic Slash.
Not every stam char wants to run S&B.
Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 46 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard StamplarAll chars 50 @ CP 1700+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.2 -
IZZEFlameLash✭✭✭✭✭
✭IZZEFlameLash wrote: »Though this set's 5pc is really redundant for stam as they have easy access to it with Heroic Slash.
Not every stam char wants to run S&B.
The meta says they do on the back bar at least. Tbh, no real reason not to run S/B and Heroic Slash because it also grants Minor Maim and snare.Imperials, the one and true masters of all mortal races of Tamriel0 -
Feanor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭IZZEFlameLash wrote: »IZZEFlameLash wrote: »Though this set's 5pc is really redundant for stam as they have easy access to it with Heroic Slash.
Not every stam char wants to run S&B.
The meta says they do on the back bar at least. Tbh, no real reason not to run S/B and Heroic Slash because it also grants Minor Maim and snare.
The meta as far as I know is DW/2H because fast people run away instead of blocking. Might change next patch, but S&B is nowhere as dominant as it was some time ago.
Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 46 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard StamplarAll chars 50 @ CP 1700+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.1 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭To my knowledge, no two 5set bonuses are identical. Please don't let this be the first one, it would set an awful precedent
It seems to be splitting hairs being that the rest of the set is clearly designed differently.
Considering Julianos is specifically designed as a magicka version of Hundings rage the new set seems to be appropriate.Champion of the Hist (Heavy)
2: Weapon Damage
3: Max Stamina
4: Max Stamina
5: Gain Minor Heroism at all times while you are in combat, generating 1 Ultimate every 1.5 seconds.
The 5-piece bonus of this set already exists Zos.
Shalk Exoskeleton Set
(2 items) Adds 1206 Max Health
(3 items) Adds 129 Spell Damage
(4 items) Adds 833 Spell Critical
(5 items) Gain Minor Heroism at all times while in combat, generating 1 Ultimate every 1.5 seconds.
To my knowledge, no two 5set bonuses are identical. Please don't let this be the first one, it would set an awful precedent
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_RichLambert
War Machine + Master Architect
One mag, one stam. This has precedent
If you read my follow-up, I mentioned those let me quote: o 2 sets have the same 5piece bonus other than certain trial sets. Is this really such a largely requested set that it would be afforded a status of War Machine and Master Architect?
Again, splitting hairs by eliminating the other pair of sets that do. This totally refutes your argument.
Edited by idk on October 11, 2018 7:37AM0 -
IZZEFlameLash✭✭✭✭✭
✭IZZEFlameLash wrote: »IZZEFlameLash wrote: »Though this set's 5pc is really redundant for stam as they have easy access to it with Heroic Slash.
Not every stam char wants to run S&B.
The meta says they do on the back bar at least. Tbh, no real reason not to run S/B and Heroic Slash because it also grants Minor Maim and snare.
The meta as far as I know is DW/2H because fast people run away instead of blocking. Might change next patch, but S&B is nowhere as dominant as it was some time ago.
Eh maybe, I guess I am also against this set's other bonuses in regards to bleed meta. Too offensive oriented for a HA set. Now bleed builds can Incap/DBoS slightly faster with this set on top of retaining damage unlike magicka counterpart of this set which are like bad bonuses.Imperials, the one and true masters of all mortal races of Tamriel1 -
Yngol✭✭✭Emma_Overload wrote: »My point still stands though. No 2 sets have the same 5piece bonus other than certain trial sets. Is this really such a largely requested set that it would be afforded a status of War Machine and Master Architect? Not to mention that minor heroism is more readily avaliable to stamina characters through heroic slash.
Julianos and Hundings are identical in terms of their effect on the wearer's build. Nobody is complaining.
It's not; one is spell damage and the other one is weapon damage. So not identical 5pc bonuses0 -
Yngol✭✭✭
I'm not a stam player, but yes! I'd like more interesting sets, not rehashes of sets that already exist in the game
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Yngol✭✭✭To my knowledge, no two 5set bonuses are identical. Please don't let this be the first one, it would set an awful precedent
It seems to be splitting hairs being that the rest of the set is clearly designed differently.
Considering Julianos is specifically designed as a magicka version of Hundings rage the new set seems to be appropriate.Champion of the Hist (Heavy)
2: Weapon Damage
3: Max Stamina
4: Max Stamina
5: Gain Minor Heroism at all times while you are in combat, generating 1 Ultimate every 1.5 seconds.
The 5-piece bonus of this set already exists Zos.
Shalk Exoskeleton Set
(2 items) Adds 1206 Max Health
(3 items) Adds 129 Spell Damage
(4 items) Adds 833 Spell Critical
(5 items) Gain Minor Heroism at all times while in combat, generating 1 Ultimate every 1.5 seconds.
To my knowledge, no two 5set bonuses are identical. Please don't let this be the first one, it would set an awful precedent
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_RichLambert
War Machine + Master Architect
One mag, one stam. This has precedent
If you read my follow-up, I mentioned those let me quote: o 2 sets have the same 5piece bonus other than certain trial sets. Is this really such a largely requested set that it would be afforded a status of War Machine and Master Architect?
Again, splitting hairs by eliminating the other pair of sets that do. This totally refutes your argument.
I never "ignored" the sets that do that. But as I said, is a minor heroism set really on the same level of wantedness as a trial set?
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