Murkmire PTS natch potes are out

TheYKcid

As per title.

Aliyavana

Blackrose weapons look overall dissapointing.

Sergykid

they are out but will they remain those? game has big time until gets updated to next patch, so these will remain the official ones? my game didn't update anything so...

Odovacar

I’m just here, waiting for the comments 👽

Shad0wfire99

And they're terrible. Shocking.

TheYKcid

I immediately regret my decision to read said notes. This has to be a nightmare.

max_only

Why did they murder Evasion? Why? Pvp whiners? Why? They’ve killed every newb tank using Hist Bark. They’ve killed every non dk, non Warden tank. Who asked for this? No one asked for this.

Minor/Major Evasion: These buffs no longer grant a passive chance to dodge. They now reduce the damage you take from area of effect attacks by 5/25%. All abilities that previously granted Minor or Major Evasion have been converted to this new effect, and the Blade Cloak ability now grants Major Evasion.
Developer Comment:
Spoiler
This change affects the abilities Blur, Evasion, Deceptive Predator, Gossamer, Grace of Gloom, Adept Rider, Hist Bark, and Spectre’s Eye.

As noted above, we spent time fixing issues with dodge, with the goal of making sure that you only dodge abilities/projectiles when you are actually actively dodging. Passive dodge goes against that, so we removed it from the game.

So what they just admitted to was they couldn’t fix it so they removed it. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot you guys. this is so wrong.

The_Lex

I think we may have a patch that is more widely hated than the Morrowind sustain nerfs.

Koronach

max_only wrote: »

Why did they murder Evasion? Why? Pvp whiners? Why? They’ve killed every newb tank. They’ve killed every non dk, non Warden tank. Who asked for this? No one asked for this.

Minor/Major Evasion: These buffs no longer grant a passive chance to dodge. They now reduce the damage you take from area of effect attacks by 5/25%. All abilities that previously granted Minor or Major Evasion have been converted to this new effect, and the Blade Cloak ability now grants Major Evasion.
Developer Comment:
Spoiler
This change affects the abilities Blur, Evasion, Deceptive Predator, Gossamer, Grace of Gloom, Adept Rider, Hist Bark, and Spectre’s Eye.

As noted above, we spent time fixing issues with dodge, with the goal of making sure that you only dodge abilities/projectiles when you are actually actively dodging. Passive dodge goes against that, so we removed it from the game.

So what they just admitted to was they couldn’t fix it so they removed it. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot you guys. this is so wrong.

I saw this, I can't believe they went through college and don't know what Evade/Evasion means.

Ufretin

max_only wrote: »

They’ve killed every newb tank. They’ve killed every non dk, non Warden tank.

I've put up with every nerf to my NB sap tank for 2 years but I guess with these nerfs to funnel, refreshing path and mirage he's finally and utterly dead

So much for "we want every class to be able to fill every role"...

max_only

Ufretin wrote: »

max_only wrote: »

They’ve killed every newb tank. They’ve killed every non dk, non Warden tank.

I've put up with every nerf to my NB sap tank for 2 years but I guess with these nerfs to funnel, refreshing path and mirage he's finally and utterly dead

So much for "we want every class to be able to fill every role"...

I agree. Just last night I was stoked over my Nocturnal Favor and now what? What do I have to look forward to?

Jhalin

This patch is hot garbage

Aebaradath

I got my popcorn ready to see the ***-show and complainers cry as per usual.

_Ahala_

Angry Magden is angry... very angry

Koronach

PelinalWhitestrake wrote: »

I got my popcorn ready to see the ***-show and complainers cry as per usual.

Shouldn't you be out killing Ayleids instead? :P

SydneyGrey

They're nerfing bears. THEY'RE NERFING BEARS.

max_only

SydneyGrey wrote: »

They're nerfing bears. THEY'RE NERFING BEARS.

Feral Guardian: Decreased the damage done by the bear summoned from this ability and its morphs by approximately 30%


That’s exactly what we wanted! Right guys??? RIGHT?!

What_In_Tarnation

*Reading patch notes* Hmm, this is gonna be tough for magicka sorc mains. But thank goodness there's still Annulment that players can use.

*Keep reading patch notes till light armor* OK.

Jhalin

ZOS: "We want people to use shields actively so we're making them last 6s"

also ZOS: "Now we add a cast time so they can die while reacting"

Ohtimbar

Aebaradath

SydneyGrey wrote: »

They're nerfing bears. THEY'RE NERFING BEARS.

I wonder if ZOS is aware that the "Nerf Warden" thing is actually a running joke.

Sygil05

Wow...just some terrible changes in there for sorcs.

I guess I can hope resistances being calculated differently for shield helps balance everything out, but this just seems like another push down the wrong direction for the class.

Swomp23

Is it just me or the new Spell Strategist set seems incredibly strong?

Spell Strategist (Light)
2: Max Magicka
3: Spell Damage
4: Spell Damage
5: When you deal damage with a Light Attack, you place a mark over your target for 5 seconds, granting you 500 Spell Damage against your marked target. This effect can occur every 4 seconds.

500 spell damage just for light attacking. Siroria at full stack gives 600 spell damage. Unless I'm missing something, this is broken strong...

Daedric_NB_187

You get a nerf! You get a nerf! Everyone gets a nerf!

Aebaradath

Koronach wrote: »

PelinalWhitestrake wrote: »

I got my popcorn ready to see the ***-show and complainers cry as per usual.

Shouldn't you be out killing Ayleids instead? :P

I was. Currently on a tea break.

MyKillv2.0

max_only wrote: »

SydneyGrey wrote: »

They're nerfing bears. THEY'RE NERFING BEARS.

Feral Guardian: Decreased the damage done by the bear summoned from this ability and its morphs by approximately 30%


That’s exactly what we wanted! Right guys??? RIGHT?!

Lol.

Isn't there a rule that states Magdens MUST be nerfed once a PTS cycle?
Sorcs are crying about shields that everyone else has to deal with but yet, Madgens have the worst DPS in the game at the moment and yet they are the ones in which recieved the damage nerf.

Zo$ doesn't understand the idea of P2W classes in the least.

Kadoin

TheYKcid wrote: »

I immediately regret my decision to read said notes. This has to be a nightmare.

I thought it was April 1st...then I read the date and I can undestand 1 sec cast time to make it "fair" to remove passive evasion, but the changes to make shields crittable, but not crit, and work off resist AND buffing both crit and damage overall seem to be completely stupid changes from someone that obviously has no idea what they are doing.

Those two changes combined means that shields will become far WEAKER overall for anyone in light armor, esp. considering damage continues to rise every patch and they keep introducing more and more sets that do damage, which ironically was part of the justification for nerfing shields. So you nerf the shields, yet leave the proc sets alone? Even better, they leave absorb magic alone too, even though it is the most "potent" shield in the game and still will be? Absorb magic lasts 30 seconds, absorbs nearly all magic/elemental damage in the game, can be spammed without cast time, and it heals you! So we got a skill that shuts down magic users, and then stacking damage procs will be viable against anyone wearing light armor because shields will suck harder (already is very effective), and heavy armor sets still will keep their large damage buffs for stam users, while heavy armor will also be able to use shields better than light armor. What could possibly go wrong with balance?

Who is on the balance team making these decisions? They have no sense of balance and probably need to step into PvP as a mag user this patch and see how well that works out for them. Mag is dead.

Kadoin

Kadoin wrote: »

TheYKcid wrote: »

I immediately regret my decision to read said notes. This has to be a nightmare.

I thought it was April 1st...then I read the date and I can undestand 1 sec cast time to make it "fair" to remove passive evasion, but the changes to make shields crittable, but not crit, and work off resist AND buffing both crit and damage overall seem to be completely stupid changes from someone that obviously has no idea what they are doing.

Those two changes combined means that shields will become far WEAKER overall for anyone in light armor, esp. considering damage continues to rise every patch and they keep introducing more and more sets that do damage, which ironically was part of the justification for nerfing shields. So you nerf the shields, yet leave the proc sets alone? Even better, they leave absorb magic alone too, even though it is the most "potent" shield in the game and still will be? Absorb magic lasts 30 seconds, absorbs nearly all magic/elemental damage in the game, can be spammed without cast time, and it heals you! So we got a skill that shuts down magic users, and then stacking damage procs will be viable against anyone wearing light armor because shields will suck harder (already is very effective), and heavy armor sets still will keep their large damage buffs for stam users, while heavy armor will also be able to use shields better than light armor. What could possibly go wrong with balance?

Who is on the balance team making these decisions? They have no sense of balance and probably need to step into PvP as a mag user this patch and see how well that works out for them. Mag is dead.

I should also add, the idea that someone was hiding behind shields with proc sets I've only seen one class out of the mag specs do successfully: mag NB. And the shield changes should affect them the least!

iiYuki

*** that, I've mained sorcerer and nothing else for 2 years previously from DK that I played from the release (when I quit and returned I wanted to start fresh). Nerfing shields is the end for me, whats the point in even slotting it if it has a cast time, I'm dead from an ability by the time it casts, who does this help, whats the *** point?

Hixtory

Swomp23 wrote: »

Is it just me or the new Spell Strategist set seems incredibly strong?

Spell Strategist (Light)
2: Max Magicka
3: Spell Damage
4: Spell Damage
5: When you deal damage with a Light Attack, you place a mark over your target for 5 seconds, granting you 500 Spell Damage against your marked target. This effect can occur every 4 seconds.

500 spell damage just for light attacking. Siroria at full stack gives 600 spell damage. Unless I'm missing something, this is broken strong...

Its single target, for PVP duels yeah, but when will you be actually doing that? I'll help you there, only like 5% of times.

And as for PVE, is weaker than siroria, but defintely usefull if you are in trials and what you care most is the bosses, in the rest of the fights will be useless (mobs, adds, etc)

The only scenario where I see it being powerfull is VAS as you have only 3 bosses and you actually target one at the time.

shaielzafine

"War Horn: This ability and its morphs no longer grant Minor Toughness.
Developer Comment:
Spoiler
This change was made to give Wardens the ability to provide a unique buff (Minor Toughness) to groups. "

LOL did they really do that? They nerfed warhorn just so warden can give something unique to the group?

I'm pretty happy about some of the changes like templars can repent the same corpse, and buffs to things like magdk heal. Warden bear got nerfed, and it seems really weird that they nerfed Warhorn.