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Shield nerfs are needed to balance Stamina and Magicka classes better
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They said they are buffing light and medium armor, so I think they are planning to make up for the shield nerf, but shields are just cheap even if they are counter able, just keep spamming uncritable shields until someone stuns you.
Also this is great for PvE which is my main concern since I dont care much for PvP, they should balance the defenses of stamina and magicka to avoid those magicka only trials. Currently shields make Magicka classes way easier and safer than stamina classes while doing more damage because of their range, I really hope they are going to balance this out.
Also this is great for PvE which is my main concern since I dont care much for PvP, they should balance the defenses of stamina and magicka to avoid those magicka only trials. Currently shields make Magicka classes way easier and safer than stamina classes while doing more damage because of their range, I really hope they are going to balance this out.
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WuffyCerulei✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I don't think they're nerfing shields so that magicka classes are getting the boot. We all know ZoS loves their magsorcs. What I think they're doing is added more ways to counter any damage shield in pvp. But we can't be sure. One issue with the whole magicka classes being preferred as of late is that the newer trials aren't very forgiving on melee. vAS is extremely punishing on melee, and vCR is a lil better, but still can hurt.Edited by WuffyCerulei on September 14, 2018 10:13AMFor the love of Kyne, buff sorc. PC NACP 2100+Star-Sïnger - Khajiit Magicka Sorc - EP Grand Overlord - Flawless Conqueror vMA/vBRP/vDSA no death/vHel Ra HM/vAA HM/vSO HM/vMoL HM/vHoF HM/vAS +2/vCR+3/vSS HMs/vKA HMs/vVH/vRG Oax HM/vDSR0 -
Feanor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Who runs a shield in group PvE? Also you won’t see more stamina DDs in the new Trials even if shields are nerfed. It’s a design issue that has nothing to do with shields at all.Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard StamplarAll chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.2 -
Dextail✭✭✭For vAS and vCR, it’s the movement that causes issues for stamina.
Not shields 90% of the damage in the trials are easily avoided. However not being able to sustain high dps in a high movement setting causes the issue.1 -
IZZEFlameLash✭✭✭✭✭
✭Shield nerfs are entirely unneeded. What they should be doing is bringing in mechanics that does not favor range or melee. Never even slotted shields on my DDs unless it is a pug and I know for sure the other 3 are extremely bad. Even then, it was for res.Imperials, the one and true masters of all mortal races of Tamriel4 -
d3adpain✭✭✭oh boi i care about balance but
"Also this is great for PvE which is my main concern since I dont care much for PvP"
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✭✭✭✭✭Shields are not the (main) issue for healers to feel unneeded or for Stamina being unwanted. The problem is twofold:
- Design of content: one shot mechanics, unnecessary amounts of damage or content favoring Magicka (vAS)
- Self heals: Vigor, Funnel Health, Refreshing Path,..."We're all born under the same sky and on the same earth. Therefore, we all deserve the same amount of respect."
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Vaelen✭✭✭The solution is to remove Crushing Shock from staff skills so that Magicka classes do not get a ranged interrupt and have to rely on melee and stamina classes for interupts. But again this would make several trials such as vAS, vCR, vHOF, and obviously vHRC much harder.Edited by Vaelen on September 14, 2018 10:39AM0 -
Bigevilpeter✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭shields are the main reason magika classes have survivability in trials, if you are a magicka DD and not using a shield in Trial then you are just torturing yourself and hurting your group for no reason.
My point is the medium armor buffs should help stamina classes not need to move too much on high damage bosses to avoid aoe so they can stay on target and do melee damage, the light armor buff should also make magicka classes not rely too heavily on their shields0