Haven't played in over a year...

Fuzzybrick

Ok, I figured a lot would change... My favorite character was my Stam sorc... Bound armaments only last 3 seconds?? Wtf? So I go to respec and I figured "well I haven't played in over a year so first respec should be cheap...." Over 10k? *** me. I thought bound armarments was a summon... I'm summoning armor..... So are all summons 3 seconds now? Wtf. I'm just speechless....

Fuzzybrick

So I switch to my magblade... Wtf happened to stealth? I can't remember what it was exactly... But I know this isn't it.

VaranisArano

The passive on Bound Armor remains the same, but the resistances are now limited to 3 seconds.

Personally, I use Bound Armaments only for the passive and the active effect only gets used if I accidentally fat finger it.

Myyth

VaranisArano wrote: »

The passive on Bound Armor remains the same, but the resistances are now limited to 3 seconds.

Personally, I use Bound Armaments only for the passive and the active effect only gets used if I accidentally fat finger it.

oh I just returned too and wondered why I kept having to press bound armor. A 3 second buff is very bad I will be removing that skill too.

So does this nerf have a big negative affect on sorcerer tanks? I guess you can get your resistances from other places.

Why do they keep saying any class can perform any role, yet keep nerfing them so you can't??

VaranisArano

Myyth wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

The passive on Bound Armor remains the same, but the resistances are now limited to 3 seconds.

Personally, I use Bound Armaments only for the passive and the active effect only gets used if I accidentally fat finger it.

oh I just returned too and wondered why I kept having to press bound armor. A 3 second buff is very bad I will be removing that skill too.

So does this nerf have a big negative affect on sorcerer tanks? I guess you can get your resistances from other places.

Why do they keep saying any class can perform any role, yet keep nerfing them so you can't??

Personally, my stam Sorc tanks in normal dungeons got more of their resistances from Hurricane.

GusTheWizard

If you read the skill it will explain.

Protect yourself with the power of Oblivion, creating a suit of Daedric mail that increases your block mitigation by 20% for 3 seconds.
(This is a new effect you get for activating it)

While Slotted, your Max Stamina is increased by 5% and light attack damage is increased by 11%, This part is always active for being on your bar (this is what you used to get for activating it)

This is not a nerf because if you die you don’t have to reactive it.

Myyth

GusTheWizard wrote: »

If you read the skill it will explain.

Protect yourself with the power of Oblivion, creating a suit of Daedric mail that increases your block mitigation by 20% for 3 seconds.
(This is a new effect you get for activating it)

While Slotted, your Max Stamina is increased by 5% and light attack damage is increased by 11%, This part is always active for being on your bar (this is what you used to get for activating it)

This is not a nerf because if you die you don’t have to reactive it.

ok I guess I am getting confused since I havn't played in awhile, but I remember there being a morph that gave me 1500 resistances when it was toggled.

Does you still get resistances as a passive or do you need to press the skill for a short buff?

VaranisArano

Myyth wrote: »

GusTheWizard wrote: »

If you read the skill it will explain.

Protect yourself with the power of Oblivion, creating a suit of Daedric mail that increases your block mitigation by 20% for 3 seconds.
(This is a new effect you get for activating it)

While Slotted, your Max Stamina is increased by 5% and light attack damage is increased by 11%, This part is always active for being on your bar (this is what you used to get for activating it)

This is not a nerf because if you die you don’t have to reactive it.

ok I guess I am getting confused since I havn't played in awhile, but I remember there being a morph that gave me 1500 resistances when it was toggled.

Does you still get resistances as a passive or do you need to press the skill for a short buff?

The resistances used to be part of the toggle, and now require you to use the skill for it as a short buff.

I believe this changed with Summerset, but it might have been Dragon Bones, I don't recall which.

GusTheWizard

The resistances are actually from the other morph

Protect yourself with the power of Oblivion creating a suit of Daedric mail that increases you block mitigation by 20% for 3 seconds.

While slotted, your Max Magicka is increased by 5% and you gain Minor Ward and Minor Resolve. These increase your Spell Resistance and Physical Resistance

MashmalloMan

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/413283/pc-mac-patch-notes-v4-0-5-summerset-update-18

The change was done to make it a skill that didn't require a toggle -> AKA it's actually been buffed.

"Daedric Summoning

Bound Armor: This ability and its morphs are no longer toggle abilities. Slotting Bound Armor will continue to grant you an increase to Max Magicka, and activating these abilities will increase the amount of damage you can block by 20% for 3 seconds.

Bound Aegis (Bound Armor morph): This morph now grants Minor Ward and Minor Resolve while it is slotted.

Bound Armaments (Bound Armor morph): This morph converts the ability into a Stamina ability and now increases your damage done with Light Attacks while slotted, instead of Heavy Attacks."

It made the skill usable by tanks. Removed the toggle, you can now just front load the skill (i still back bar it, passives are too good) but for bound armaments we lost minor resolve. I personally like the 11% light atk dmg better than heavy atk dmg too.

Myyth

ok so even though it is not a toggle now, I still have to double bar the skill so that I get the minor ward and minor resolve as a passive at all times?

MashmalloMan

Myyth wrote: »

ok so even though it is not a toggle now, I still have to double bar the skill so that I get the minor ward and minor resolve as a passive?

It's only active if you have the skill on your bar for the passives, it acts the same way as inner light. If you need the bar space, you can take it off the back for some other utility if you really need too - I was just saying personally. I still prefer to double bar it for pve. In pvp I will only front bar it.

Oh, if you only use it on 1 bar, don't forget you need a Daedric Summoning skill on the back bar for the Deadric Protection passive (20% health regen and 20% stam regen).

On stam sorc, if you front bar it only. Run the Atro ult on back bar to keep the regen.