14,000 crowns for a new house. No option to purchase with gold or AP.

Savos_Saren

Hey ZOS- this [snip] is getting old. You've got veteran players (like myself) who have been here since Beta with 21,000,000 AP and 10,000,000 Gold. But yet you want us to purchase housing (which we could use for PVE/PVP guild halls) with actual cash. Not only do I already pay a subscription fee- but that's not enough... I still need to pay MORE CASH (instead of in-game gold or AP) for housing.

Now- I want to give non-subscribers a chance to realize how ridiculous ZOS's cash grab is:

As a subscriber- you get 1500 crowns a month for your subscription. So- in order to purchase this new house- you'd have to sit on all your crowns (and not spend any at all) for 10 months. That's right- you can't spend *** on anything for TEN MONTHS of your subscription... just to purchase a new house. Kind of ridiculous- isn't it?

But, then again, there's games that are coming out which are subscription based and won't require cash grab items. Camelot Unchained is one of them. If ZOS plans to compete with games that aren't seeking "whales"- it might want to step up its game and be slightly less money hungry.

Cpt_Teemo

You can purchase crowns in game with gold from people now and you had the option of transferring a bought house to another account even before the gifting came in

Waffennacht

Cpt_Teemo wrote: »

You can purchase crowns in game with gold from people now and you had the option of transferring a bought house to another account even before the gifting came in

Is there a way to guarantee you won't get screwed though?

Masel

Waffennacht wrote: »

Cpt_Teemo wrote: »

You can purchase crowns in game with gold from people now and you had the option of transferring a bought house to another account even before the gifting came in

Is there a way to guarantee you won't get screwed though?

There's a controlled market for it on PC EU, trade guilds established a control system. I'm not part of it myself but I know many players that used it.

Jayman1000

Apparently whales makes the world go around. ZOS probably makes a fortune selling this stuff to people with lots of disposable funds. Perhaps you can get someone to gift you the house by paying them ingame gold?

Saucy_Jack

Cpt_Teemo wrote: »

You can purchase crowns in game with gold from people now and you had the option of transferring a bought house to another account even before the gifting came in

You can't purchase crowns with gold. You can trade gold for crown store ITEMS. But if you're 5k crowns short of the house purchase price, you're out of luck, because you can't gift crowns themselves, which is super-dumb.

Cpt_Teemo

Waffennacht wrote: »

Cpt_Teemo wrote: »

You can purchase crowns in game with gold from people now and you had the option of transferring a bought house to another account even before the gifting came in

Is there a way to guarantee you won't get screwed though?

No, you have to either trust the seller first or you pay upfront but I heard if they scam you legitly you can get your gold back if you have proof

Cpt_Teemo

Saucy_Jack wrote: »

Cpt_Teemo wrote: »

You can purchase crowns in game with gold from people now and you had the option of transferring a bought house to another account even before the gifting came in

You can't purchase crowns with gold. You can trade gold for crown store ITEMS. But if you're 5k crowns short of the house purchase price, you're out of luck, because you can't gift crowns themselves, which is super-dumb.

Yeah that's what I meant to say woops can't buy crowns directly but the items

angelncelestine

As far as I know you can’t gift homes

Cpt_Teemo

angelncelestine wrote: »

As far as I know you can’t gift homes

Can't gift them but you can send a ticket in to transfer it from one account to another, people have done that since the launch of the housing update 2 years ago

eso_lags

Savos_Saren wrote: »

Hey ZOS- this [snip] is getting old. You've got veteran players (like myself) who have been here since Beta with 21,000,000 AP and 10,000,000 Gold. But yet you want us to purchase housing (which we could use for PVE/PVP guild halls) with actual cash. Not only do I already pay a subscription fee- but that's not enough... I still need to pay MORE CASH (instead of in-game gold or AP) for housing.

Now- I want to give non-subscribers a chance to realize how ridiculous ZOS's cash grab is:

As a subscriber- you get 1500 crowns a month for your subscription. So- in order to purchase this new house- you'd have to sit on all your crowns (and not spend any at all) for 10 months. That's right- you can't spend *** on anything for TEN MONTHS of your subscription... just to purchase a new house. Kind of ridiculous- isn't it?

But, then again, there's games that are coming out which are subscription based and won't require cash grab items. Camelot Unchained is one of them. If ZOS plans to compete with games that aren't seeking "whales"- it might want to step up its game and be slightly less money hungry.

And lets not forget that even if you waited 10 months, from the time you heard about the house, chances are it wouldnt be around anymore since most of the crown store only houses are very limited time and have yet to come back..

LadyNalcarya

They should at least add an opportunity to buy them from other players. That would be fair, you can buy crown crates, mounts, dlcs and everything else for gold, why not the houses?

Marcus684

Because ZOS is in business to make money? And allowing people to buy everything with gold or AP reduces their profits? It's not rocket science.

Valrien

Waffennacht wrote: »

Cpt_Teemo wrote: »

You can purchase crowns in game with gold from people now and you had the option of transferring a bought house to another account even before the gifting came in

Is there a way to guarantee you won't get screwed though?

This has been covered multiple times on the forums. Just take screenshots. If you get jipped (on either side) then ZOS will back you

Valrien

LadyNalcarya wrote: »

They should at least add an opportunity to buy them from other players. That would be fair, you can buy crown crates, mounts, dlcs and everything else for gold, why not the houses?

Can you not?

LadyNalcarya

Marcus684 wrote: »

Because ZOS is in business to make money? And allowing people to buy everything with gold or AP reduces their profits? It's not rocket science.

Well, allowing to buy stuff from other players doesnt reduce their profit, it seems to increase it.
The crown selling discord is super popular lately.

commdt

Marcus684 wrote: »

Because ZOS is in business to make money? And allowing people to buy everything with gold or AP reduces their profits? It's not rocket science.

Wrong. For ZoS you dont by it for gold, you buy it for real money, but from someone else's wallet. So the item that wouldn't be bought otherwise now would be actually bought with real money and then transferred for gold

Sparr0w

At 100-150 gold per crown (current price on Xbox EU) it would cost like 1.5-2m for it, which isn't actually that bad tbh. Just the matter of not getting scammed.

EDIT: AP is like 4/1 on gold, so 5.5-8.5m AP i guess.

Hal_Moore

playing since beta and ONLY have 21 million AP and 10 million gold? I find that statement disturbing.

Crown houses should be expensive. if you want to pay gold get the ones available in the crown store.

DanteYoda

Funnily the house isn't all that great either for 14k...

lpw

Yeah, there are a few guilds on PC trading crowns..

Current rate on EU though is like 325 which would be 4.5m in gold.

WhiteCoatSyndrome

I recommend saving the money to spend on a real-life house instead. You'll get more use out of it and might get some resale value out of it in the future.

Anotherone773

The real problem is that housing has almost went completely to crowns and then its super expensive. $100-$150 for a virtual house? No thanks. And there is nothing special about most of the latest releases. Cold harbor is just empty ground and many of the rest that have been released are just empty versions of houses already in the game. Its not like they are actually creating something unique in many cases.

Crown housing needs to be in the $10-$40 range. not the $40-$200 range and there needs to be one or two gold houses for every crown house that is released.

Edit to add: Add the furniture restrictions and the fact that many places in these large houses arent usable or accessible( without building some cheesy walkway ) and its just a total waste. The one in gold coast comes to mind. All the walls and towers and you can access like 2 towers? What a failure. They need to stop halfheartedly ( i was thinking another word) doing housing and put some effort into it. They are very lazy with some of this stuff.

Valrien

WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »

I recommend saving the money to spend on a real-life house instead. You'll get more use out of it and might get some resale value out of it in the future.

https://youtu.be/YHU_KLYhibI

Here you go

ezio45

Savos_Saren wrote: »

Hey ZOS- this [snip] is getting old. You've got veteran players (like myself) who have been here since Beta with 21,000,000 AP and 10,000,000 Gold. But yet you want us to purchase housing (which we could use for PVE/PVP guild halls) with actual cash. Not only do I already pay a subscription fee- but that's not enough... I still need to pay MORE CASH (instead of in-game gold or AP) for housing.

Now- I want to give non-subscribers a chance to realize how ridiculous ZOS's cash grab is:

As a subscriber- you get 1500 crowns a month for your subscription. So- in order to purchase this new house- you'd have to sit on all your crowns (and not spend any at all) for 10 months. That's right- you can't spend *** on anything for TEN MONTHS of your subscription... just to purchase a new house. Kind of ridiculous- isn't it?

But, then again, there's games that are coming out which are subscription based and won't require cash grab items. Camelot Unchained is one of them. If ZOS plans to compete with games that aren't seeking "whales"- it might want to step up its game and be slightly less money hungry.

if you are on ps4 i will take a mil plz

max_only

$100 for an empty space? Don’t get stressed. Until they make changes to housing it’s not worthwhile. They need to let guilds buy areas together, allow permissions to be set based on guild level, increase the item cap and give us more interactive features like npcs in housing before I spend $100 on a house. As is, I can’t see the value and I’m a giant whale.

Pink_Violinz

Cpt_Teemo wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

Cpt_Teemo wrote: »

You can purchase crowns in game with gold from people now and you had the option of transferring a bought house to another account even before the gifting came in

Is there a way to guarantee you won't get screwed though?

No, you have to either trust the seller first or you pay upfront but I heard if they scam you legitly you can get your gold back if you have proof

I had this happen the other day. While I did get my gold back, they warned me they will only refund you once. If you get scammed a second time, you're out of luck.

Why they don't make a proper trading system for this idk. It would save them a lot of time since they don't have to answer so many tickets, and the players would only benefit from a more secure system.

qbit

Savos_Saren wrote: »

But, then again, there's games that are coming out which are subscription based and won't require cash grab items.

Yet. Put “yet” at the end of that sentence to be more genuine in the assertion.

LordSarevok

Hal_Moore wrote: »

playing since beta and ONLY have 21 million AP and 10 million gold? I find that statement disturbing.

Crown houses should be expensive. if you want to pay gold get the ones available in the crown store.

/ri'm14andverybadass

hootenanny

Cpt_Teemo wrote: »

angelncelestine wrote: »

As far as I know you can’t gift homes

Can't gift them but you can send a ticket in to transfer it from one account to another, people have done that since the launch of the housing update 2 years ago

is this a "if you send in a ticket, they will honor your request to transfer the house 100% of the time" type deal? or does it depend on the whim of whoever decides to answer your ticket on whether the transfer will actually happen or not?

Valrien

qbit wrote: »

Savos_Saren wrote: »

But, then again, there's games that are coming out which are subscription based and won't require cash grab items.

Yet. Put “yet” at the end of that sentence to be more genuine in the assertion.

Certain games I believe are genuine in their claim that they will stay subscription based.

Most of them I remain skeptical...because everyone always promises "we will be subscription based and get all the money we need from it" and then goes F2P + Store