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ZOS can we please get rid of the draining resource bug once and for all?

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This is starting to be extremely frustrating... I've already made a topic on this issue once several months ago, and it seems to be getting worse every new patch.

You all know what i'm talking about... You're standing still in combat, nothing is happening, noone is attacking you, you can even be stealthed...

You sit at 10% stam, and it goes something like this (the recovery of it): 10% -> 15% -> 11% -> 17% -> 14% -> 22% -> 19% ETC ETC ETC. (WTF)

What makes this extremely agitating is when you're at a low resource pool and your character "knows" you can use an ability or dodge roll and attempts to do it, but gets cut off mid-animation and gives you the "low resource error sound" because the game doesn't know what the hell it is doing. Like...............................................................................

Happens both in PVE and PVP regardless of what you're doing, kind of like the sprint bug it comes out of absolutely nowhere. Not to mention sometimes for some strange reason it takes MORE than 2 seconds to get a recovery tic on stamina/magicka/health. Something that probably frustrates me even more. Hell I even get this on a stupid target dummy in my house. I timed it and it varies.

Sometimes it's 2 seconds, sometimes it's 4 seconds. Why is this ZOS?
Edited by Nyladreas on August 24, 2018 2:28PM
  • Nyladreas
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    Bump cause I'm tired of serious issues getting buried in a plethora of cosmetic complaints.
  • DuskMarine
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    Nyladreas wrote: »
    Bump cause I'm tired of serious issues getting buried in a plethora of cosmetic complaints.

    funny thing i run into with resources is my recovery doesnt actually recover all of it per second like it should. so yea its something that really gets old. but the day zos fixes bugs at a decent rate will be when this games dead and their trying to defib it.
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    DuskMarine wrote: »
    Nyladreas wrote: »
    Bump cause I'm tired of serious issues getting buried in a plethora of cosmetic complaints.

    funny thing i run into with resources is my recovery doesnt actually recover all of it per second like it should. so yea its something that really gets old. but the day zos fixes bugs at a decent rate will be when this games dead and their trying to defib it.

    At this rate I'd rather go back to WoW honestly. ZOS really needs to start focusing on important issues and improving gameplay. Both PVE and PVP.

    BFA is already the fastest selling expansion of all time. And here we are trying to play a different game where half of the important stuff is broken.
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    Nyladreas wrote: »
    DuskMarine wrote: »
    Nyladreas wrote: »
    Bump cause I'm tired of serious issues getting buried in a plethora of cosmetic complaints.

    funny thing i run into with resources is my recovery doesnt actually recover all of it per second like it should. so yea its something that really gets old. but the day zos fixes bugs at a decent rate will be when this games dead and their trying to defib it.

    At this rate I'd rather go back to WoW honestly. ZOS really needs to start focusing on important issues and improving gameplay. Both PVE and PVP.

    BFA is already the fastest selling expansion of all time. And here we are trying to play a different game where half of the important stuff is broken.

    resource bugs, people breaking other people's cc immunity and people infinite cc'ing people as well... yeah it gets really old.
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    Nyladreas wrote: »
    Bump cause I'm tired of serious issues getting buried in a plethora of cosmetic complaints.

    Me too friend. Me too.
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    Armatesz wrote: »
    Nyladreas wrote: »
    DuskMarine wrote: »
    Nyladreas wrote: »
    Bump cause I'm tired of serious issues getting buried in a plethora of cosmetic complaints.

    funny thing i run into with resources is my recovery doesnt actually recover all of it per second like it should. so yea its something that really gets old. but the day zos fixes bugs at a decent rate will be when this games dead and their trying to defib it.

    At this rate I'd rather go back to WoW honestly. ZOS really needs to start focusing on important issues and improving gameplay. Both PVE and PVP.

    BFA is already the fastest selling expansion of all time. And here we are trying to play a different game where half of the important stuff is broken.

    resource bugs, people breaking other people's cc immunity and people infinite cc'ing people as well... yeah it gets really old.

    Speaking of CC immunity issues, literally 5 minutes ago i experienced gettting RUNE CAGED -> BROKE BREE -> INSTANTLY STUNED BY METEOR

    Yeah no this is not okay. Not to mention the positioning issues PVP is having lately. lmfao... Like i have some dude standing STILL right on top of me, i'm spamming vigor, he doesn't get healed. Like... it just never ends.

    The lag in PVP where you die 5 miles behind a wall out of LOS of your opponent, skills not triggering, sprint bug... etc.
    Edited by Nyladreas on August 24, 2018 4:53PM
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    Nyladreas wrote: »
    Armatesz wrote: »
    Nyladreas wrote: »
    DuskMarine wrote: »
    Nyladreas wrote: »
    Bump cause I'm tired of serious issues getting buried in a plethora of cosmetic complaints.

    funny thing i run into with resources is my recovery doesnt actually recover all of it per second like it should. so yea its something that really gets old. but the day zos fixes bugs at a decent rate will be when this games dead and their trying to defib it.

    At this rate I'd rather go back to WoW honestly. ZOS really needs to start focusing on important issues and improving gameplay. Both PVE and PVP.

    BFA is already the fastest selling expansion of all time. And here we are trying to play a different game where half of the important stuff is broken.

    resource bugs, people breaking other people's cc immunity and people infinite cc'ing people as well... yeah it gets really old.

    Speaking of CC immunity issues, literally 5 minutes ago i experienced gettting RUNE CAGED -> BROKE BREE -> INSTANTLY STUNED BY METEOR

    Yeah no this is not okay. Not to mention the positioning issues PVP is having lately. lmfao... Like i have some dude standing STILL right on top of me, i'm spamming vigor, he doesn't get healed. Like... it just never ends.

    The lag in PVP where you die 5 miles behind a wall out of LOS of your opponent, skills not triggering... etc.

    Yeah to the point of people trying to do multiple rune cages... right when you get free you get insta rune caged again... 3 times in a row. What I have seen some do to break cc immunity is chaining heavy attacks with stuff like whips or fossilize or rune cage or whatever else. It isn't a fun experience, but hey guess what? the templar thrown shard breaks it when an enemy team does it that is. I know it is an infinite cc and breaking cc because I literally posted a video a long while ago of me leading a zerg for us to report it so they patch it. All that did the video (including the victim) volunteered to get this resolved... still not fixed.
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    Nyladreas wrote: »
    DuskMarine wrote: »
    Nyladreas wrote: »
    Bump cause I'm tired of serious issues getting buried in a plethora of cosmetic complaints.

    funny thing i run into with resources is my recovery doesnt actually recover all of it per second like it should. so yea its something that really gets old. but the day zos fixes bugs at a decent rate will be when this games dead and their trying to defib it.

    At this rate I'd rather go back to WoW honestly. ZOS really needs to start focusing on important issues and improving gameplay. Both PVE and PVP.

    BFA is already the fastest selling expansion of all time. And here we are trying to play a different game where half of the important stuff is broken.

    I love this game, but the bugs are insane. I've never played anything like this (been playing MMOs since 2003) and this game beats all others in bad QA.

    The second WoW Vanilla gets released I'm out.
    Edited by Sweetare on August 24, 2018 4:39PM
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    While we're at it can we get them to fix why immovable pots don't provide immunity to stuns consistently anymore? Like, the core reason they exist doesn't work. Also fix sprint bug ofc.
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    Do you have any more information on about resource bug that I can pass along?
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    Tasear wrote: »
    Do you have any more information on about resource bug that I can pass along?

    From what I can tell magic steal can influence the resource bug from what I have experienced. Stuff like radiant aura can also make it glitch out when applied.
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  • Nyladreas
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    Sweetare wrote: »
    Nyladreas wrote: »
    DuskMarine wrote: »
    Nyladreas wrote: »
    Bump cause I'm tired of serious issues getting buried in a plethora of cosmetic complaints.

    funny thing i run into with resources is my recovery doesnt actually recover all of it per second like it should. so yea its something that really gets old. but the day zos fixes bugs at a decent rate will be when this games dead and their trying to defib it.

    At this rate I'd rather go back to WoW honestly. ZOS really needs to start focusing on important issues and improving gameplay. Both PVE and PVP.

    BFA is already the fastest selling expansion of all time. And here we are trying to play a different game where half of the important stuff is broken.

    I love this game, but the bugs are insane. I've never played anything like this (been playing MMOs since 2003) and this game beats all others in bad QA.

    The second WoW Vanilla gets released I'm out.

    Same as me, I have actually quit WoW after 12 years (having a ton of exclusive items and achievements there too) to play ESO. But lately it's just kind of lacklustre in certain aspects.

    @Tasear Sadly no, I wish i had more to provide than what I've stated...

    It really just comes and goes, and works as I described, there seems to be no other trigger than fighting consistently , possibly affected by bash cancels? Hard to tell...

    Like i said in the OP it makes your recovery fluctuate back and forth and sometimes even skips a recovery tick, making it longer than 2 seconds. :/ I'd do some thorough testing if I could.
    Edited by Nyladreas on August 24, 2018 4:53PM
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    Nyladreas wrote: »
    Sweetare wrote: »
    Nyladreas wrote: »
    DuskMarine wrote: »
    Nyladreas wrote: »
    Bump cause I'm tired of serious issues getting buried in a plethora of cosmetic complaints.

    funny thing i run into with resources is my recovery doesnt actually recover all of it per second like it should. so yea its something that really gets old. but the day zos fixes bugs at a decent rate will be when this games dead and their trying to defib it.

    At this rate I'd rather go back to WoW honestly. ZOS really needs to start focusing on important issues and improving gameplay. Both PVE and PVP.

    BFA is already the fastest selling expansion of all time. And here we are trying to play a different game where half of the important stuff is broken.

    I love this game, but the bugs are insane. I've never played anything like this (been playing MMOs since 2003) and this game beats all others in bad QA.

    The second WoW Vanilla gets released I'm out.

    Same as me, I have actually quit WoW after 12 years (having a ton of exclusive items and achievements there too) to play ESO. But lately it's just kind of lacklustre in certain aspects.

    @Tasear Sadly no, I wish i had more to provide than what I've stated...

    It really just comes and goes, and works as I described, there seems to be no other trigger than fighting consistently , possibly affected by bash cancels? Hard to tell...

    Like i said in the OP it makes your recovery fluctuate back and forth and sometimes even skips a recovery tick, making it longer than 2 seconds. :/ I'd do some thorough testing if I could.

    Have any videos of the issue?
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    Random resource drains, load screens, break free and cc immunity broken, skills not activating, glitched open walls, invisible players, disgusting proc sets, and stackable seige that does 6k damage ticks.

    I'm starting to think this is all intentional to close down pvp. Hope they finally start taking these issues seriously because there's lots of new games coming out in the next few months.
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    I can confirm the fluctuation of the stat-pools. But I usually have it when I raid and synergise an orb/spear. Then it heals / synergy goes on cooldown, but the magicka it restores doesn't show up instantly(Like it goes from 8% to 17% then 11% and then up to 22% etc). I recorded some clips the other day, I'll look through them and see if I can find something.

    Edit: But I'm not sure if this is an actual in-game bug, or if it's just a visual bug. I didn't have time to pay too much attention to that.
    Edited by Lieblingsjunge on August 24, 2018 5:01PM
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  • Sweetare
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    There was a post a couple months ago with quite a few videos of this happening.
    There's even a master bug thread with a compilation of all major bugs and videos to reproduce them. The post got ignored and who knows on which page it is now.

    Had the resource bug last night on 2 toons, magdk and Stam sorc while playing bgs.

    And let's not forget about the "someone declined the invite" bug after everyone accepted a bg/dungeon and the tool goes to "forming group" and then fails.
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    Tasear wrote: »
    Nyladreas wrote: »
    Sweetare wrote: »
    Nyladreas wrote: »
    DuskMarine wrote: »
    Nyladreas wrote: »
    Bump cause I'm tired of serious issues getting buried in a plethora of cosmetic complaints.

    funny thing i run into with resources is my recovery doesnt actually recover all of it per second like it should. so yea its something that really gets old. but the day zos fixes bugs at a decent rate will be when this games dead and their trying to defib it.

    At this rate I'd rather go back to WoW honestly. ZOS really needs to start focusing on important issues and improving gameplay. Both PVE and PVP.

    BFA is already the fastest selling expansion of all time. And here we are trying to play a different game where half of the important stuff is broken.

    I love this game, but the bugs are insane. I've never played anything like this (been playing MMOs since 2003) and this game beats all others in bad QA.

    The second WoW Vanilla gets released I'm out.

    Same as me, I have actually quit WoW after 12 years (having a ton of exclusive items and achievements there too) to play ESO. But lately it's just kind of lacklustre in certain aspects.

    @Tasear Sadly no, I wish i had more to provide than what I've stated...

    It really just comes and goes, and works as I described, there seems to be no other trigger than fighting consistently , possibly affected by bash cancels? Hard to tell...

    Like i said in the OP it makes your recovery fluctuate back and forth and sometimes even skips a recovery tick, making it longer than 2 seconds. :/ I'd do some thorough testing if I could.

    Have any videos of the issue?

    Sadly no, but there were tons of videos popping up couple months ago showing this issue, all completely ignored. I recall specifically one where a guy would sit in stealth and have that happen.
    Sweetare wrote: »
    There was a post a couple months ago with quite a few videos of this happening.
    There's even a master bug thread with a compilation of all major bugs and videos to reproduce them. The post got ignored and who knows on which page it is now.

    Had the resource bug last night on 2 toons, magdk and Stam sorc while playing bgs.

    And let's not forget about the "someone declined the invite" bug after everyone accepted a bg/dungeon and the tool goes to "forming group" and then fails.

    lol damn my timing sucks

    Edited by Nyladreas on August 24, 2018 5:36PM
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    Nyladreas wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    Nyladreas wrote: »
    Sweetare wrote: »
    Nyladreas wrote: »
    DuskMarine wrote: »
    Nyladreas wrote: »
    Bump cause I'm tired of serious issues getting buried in a plethora of cosmetic complaints.

    funny thing i run into with resources is my recovery doesnt actually recover all of it per second like it should. so yea its something that really gets old. but the day zos fixes bugs at a decent rate will be when this games dead and their trying to defib it.

    At this rate I'd rather go back to WoW honestly. ZOS really needs to start focusing on important issues and improving gameplay. Both PVE and PVP.

    BFA is already the fastest selling expansion of all time. And here we are trying to play a different game where half of the important stuff is broken.

    I love this game, but the bugs are insane. I've never played anything like this (been playing MMOs since 2003) and this game beats all others in bad QA.

    The second WoW Vanilla gets released I'm out.

    Same as me, I have actually quit WoW after 12 years (having a ton of exclusive items and achievements there too) to play ESO. But lately it's just kind of lacklustre in certain aspects.

    @Tasear Sadly no, I wish i had more to provide than what I've stated...

    It really just comes and goes, and works as I described, there seems to be no other trigger than fighting consistently , possibly affected by bash cancels? Hard to tell...

    Like i said in the OP it makes your recovery fluctuate back and forth and sometimes even skips a recovery tick, making it longer than 2 seconds. :/ I'd do some thorough testing if I could.

    Have any videos of the issue?

    Sadly no, but there were tons of videos popping up couple months ago showing this issue, all completely ignored. I recall specifically one where a guy would sit in stealth and have that happen.
    Sweetare wrote: »
    There was a post a couple months ago with quite a few videos of this happening.
    There's even a master bug thread with a compilation of all major bugs and videos to reproduce them. The post got ignored and who knows on which page it is now.

    Had the resource bug last night on 2 toons, magdk and Stam sorc while playing bgs.

    And let's not forget about the "someone declined the invite" bug after everyone accepted a bg/dungeon and the tool goes to "forming group" and then fails.

    lol damn my timing sucks

    If you can link any it might help. As last passing this thread along.
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    here, two links I found. Sadly i cant find the master bug thread anymore. Who knows where it is...

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/398149/random-rescource-drain-since-the-3-3-7-patch/p1

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/5028490

    Edit: they said in some patch after that, that they "fixed it". Of course it wasnt fixed, it happens less often, sure. But the bug is well and alive.

    Edit2: HA! did find it

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/415209/multiple-bug-threads-with-no-answers-some-for-months-at-a-time-general-disappointment-masterpost/p1

    PS: I have experienced almost every single bug in that list in the past week alone.
    Edited by Sweetare on August 24, 2018 7:55PM
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    Sanctum74 wrote: »
    Random resource drains, load screens, break free and cc immunity broken, skills not activating, glitched open walls, invisible players, disgusting proc sets, and stackable seige that does 6k damage ticks.

    I'm starting to think this is all intentional to close down pvp. Hope they finally start taking these issues seriously because there's lots of new games coming out in the next few months.

    Some of those issues affect PvE as well. It's unfortunate, but I don't think they really care about the game much as a whole.
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    I've had something similar happen (often in vMA). You bash to interrupt, it uses up the stamina but doesn't actually interrupt. You do it again and again, use up entire stamina pool and then die because it never interrupted anything.

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    Sanctum74 wrote: »
    Random resource drains, load screens, break free and cc immunity broken, skills not activating, glitched open walls, invisible players, disgusting proc sets, and stackable seige that does 6k damage ticks.

    I'm starting to think this is all intentional to close down pvp. Hope they finally start taking these issues seriously because there's lots of new games coming out in the next few months.

    THIS, there's a whole damn list of issues...
    Danksta wrote: »
    Sanctum74 wrote: »
    Random resource drains, load screens, break free and cc immunity broken, skills not activating, glitched open walls, invisible players, disgusting proc sets, and stackable seige that does 6k damage ticks.

    I'm starting to think this is all intentional to close down pvp. Hope they finally start taking these issues seriously because there's lots of new games coming out in the next few months.

    Some of those issues affect PvE as well. It's unfortunate, but I don't think they really care about the game much as a whole.

    Well it's no wonder since people pay thousands of dollars just to get pretty stuff out of dumb lootcrates to roleplay with. Meanwhile actual gameplay suffers... Or takes them 3 months to fix a single issue by removing an aspect of it that wasn't really the issue... LOL
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    still having resource bug issues. seemingly at random, I would get out of combat... but my resources wouldn't regenerate. like at all. and its little sibling - I'm stuck walking slowly as if I still have some sort of slow ability on me, but it just doesn't go away. bonus when I get hit by both, so I'm slow and resources are not regenerating, so I cannot dodge roll or break free, or anything. my favorite recent experience of that was while doing Geysers, where I got hit by this bug between waves and boss spawn and couldn't roll out of the big red circle so many of those bosses like to put on the ground... couldn't self heal either, cause you know.. no resource regen, and I already put a pot on cooldown. fun times.

    P.S. I don't really pvp, all of the above happened to me in pve - sometimes in open world, sometimes in instanced delve, couple of times in a group dungeon - those were my "favorite".
    Edited by Linaleah on August 24, 2018 9:01PM
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  • Armatesz
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    Puncturing sweep can also glitch out where it gives this sort of weird jitters look. It also prevents doing any attacking as well.
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    I wonder if the junk engine the game is built on makes it hard to pinpoint bugs in the code.
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    I wonder if the junk engine the game is built on makes it hard to pinpoint bugs in the code.

    Oh dear... Now that's a question
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    Nyladreas wrote: »
    This is starting to be extremely frustrating... I've already made a topic on this issue once several months ago, and it seems to be getting worse every new patch.

    You all know what i'm talking about... You're standing still in combat, nothing is happening, noone is attacking you, you can even be stealthed...

    You sit at 10% stam, and it goes something like this (the recovery of it): 10% -> 15% -> 11% -> 17% -> 14% -> 22% -> 19% ETC ETC ETC. (WTF)

    What makes this extremely agitating is when you're at a low resource pool and your character "knows" you can use an ability or dodge roll and attempts to do it, but gets cut off mid-animation and gives you the "low resource error sound" because the game doesn't know what the hell it is doing. Like...............................................................................

    Happens both in PVE and PVP regardless of what you're doing, kind of like the sprint bug it comes out of absolutely nowhere. Not to mention sometimes for some strange reason it takes MORE than 2 seconds to get a recovery tic on stamina/magicka/health. Something that probably frustrates me even more. Hell I even get this on a stupid target dummy in my house. I timed it and it varies.

    Sometimes it's 2 seconds, sometimes it's 4 seconds. Why is this ZOS?

    If you dont know why this is happening its becuase of server lag, meaning it gave you extra resources when it shouldn't have for doing something like blocking or sprinting. Due to lag the server has a hard time keeping up with things that shouldnt restore stam or mag, so when it lags and the server realizes that it gave you resources you shouldn't have gotten then it takes them back.
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  • Nyladreas
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    Zelos wrote: »
    Nyladreas wrote: »
    This is starting to be extremely frustrating... I've already made a topic on this issue once several months ago, and it seems to be getting worse every new patch.

    You all know what i'm talking about... You're standing still in combat, nothing is happening, noone is attacking you, you can even be stealthed...

    You sit at 10% stam, and it goes something like this (the recovery of it): 10% -> 15% -> 11% -> 17% -> 14% -> 22% -> 19% ETC ETC ETC. (WTF)

    What makes this extremely agitating is when you're at a low resource pool and your character "knows" you can use an ability or dodge roll and attempts to do it, but gets cut off mid-animation and gives you the "low resource error sound" because the game doesn't know what the hell it is doing. Like...............................................................................

    Happens both in PVE and PVP regardless of what you're doing, kind of like the sprint bug it comes out of absolutely nowhere. Not to mention sometimes for some strange reason it takes MORE than 2 seconds to get a recovery tic on stamina/magicka/health. Something that probably frustrates me even more. Hell I even get this on a stupid target dummy in my house. I timed it and it varies.

    Sometimes it's 2 seconds, sometimes it's 4 seconds. Why is this ZOS?

    If you dont know why this is happening its becuase of server lag, meaning it gave you extra resources when it shouldn't have for doing something like blocking or sprinting. Due to lag the server has a hard time keeping up with things that shouldnt restore stam or mag, so when it lags and the server realizes that it gave you resources you shouldn't have gotten then it takes them back.

    I'm talking about the issue while standing still here. Second paragraph of my post.
    Edited by Nyladreas on August 24, 2018 10:21PM
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    Sweetare wrote: »
    here, two links I found. Sadly i cant find the master bug thread anymore. Who knows where it is...

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/398149/random-rescource-drain-since-the-3-3-7-patch/p1

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/5028490

    Edit: they said in some patch after that, that they "fixed it". Of course it wasnt fixed, it happens less often, sure. But the bug is well and alive.

    Edit2: HA! did find it

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/415209/multiple-bug-threads-with-no-answers-some-for-months-at-a-time-general-disappointment-masterpost/p1

    PS: I have experienced almost every single bug in that list in the past week alone.

    I created that last post. Only one thing as of late got addressed on that list. The pack leader werewolf bug. Other than that no response to any of them.

    I personally can no longer put forth any effort into bug reports. It became a full time job of editing testing and reporting. But nothing gets done.

    That preview error for the new housing item got fixed in 4 days from acknowledging.


    Fix critical game breaking bugs over anything else at the moment. Pull the cosmetics team to the combat team and work this *** out
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