Mage's Wrath kill steals is still an issue in deathmatch

Mister_DMC

As long as it's my teammates stealing the kills I'm fine with it, enemy sorcs... You must all die.

Judas Helviaryn

You realize ZOS wouldn't do something as sane as attributing the kill to the person who procs the execute bonus damage, right?

They'll just nerf wrath and remove the timed execution bonus instead.

People who only spam that execute are never an issue for me, but maybe that's because I make sure my kills are quick and clean, sorc or not.

I could even see them turning the execute proc into a synergy. Do you want that? I don't. :<

Shezzarrine

starkerealm wrote: »

Abhaya wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Abhaya wrote: »

I have more assists than the rest of my team has kills. If I take someone down to execute range and someone swoops in and hits them with an executioner or impale this is reasonable. Sorcerer's shouldn't be able to hit people with wrath from across the map and then run off to fight someone else waiting for their free kills to proc.

Yeah, you didn't do anything. If your kills were being stolen by Mage's Wrath, you'd see a ton of assists. But, you don't, because you didn't do any relevant damage to the target. Not, just you didn't get the kill, you didn't even do enough damage to them to mark them as, "oh, yeah, I'm helping, guys, honest."

This is what two sorcs stealing kills with Mage's Wrath looks like:



Number 3 was a Templar. I forget what 4's class was, I think Nightblade.

Lots of assists, no kills: That's stolen credit.

Lots of nothing, no kills: Nothing was stolen from you.

EDIT: You died six times, and got 1 kill, btw.

I took a poor picture so that's my fault. MY score is the one on the top in white letters and the purple outline is where my cursor was placed. I think you also missed the point of the thread. I don't care about how many assists / kills I get in reference to my team because these numbers literally mean nothing.

Okay, that makes more sense. And, yeah, if you're in deathmatch right now, make sure you pack an execute. Which makes life awkward for Wardens and DKs, but still.

Yep, I like that classes have diversity and don't mind that I don't have an execute as magDK but it it just feels so dumb that I can do all the work killing someone and with one skill the kill can just be taken.

Abhaya

Waffennacht wrote: »

max_only wrote: »

Um, isn’t op the “kill stealing” Sorc? I’m confused.

I'm hella confused too.

The only thing I can derive from this recap is:

He did well
He did a lot of damage to opponents that were then killed by the third team.

There is no evidence that wrath was the execute or ability that finished of an opponent - believe it or not, Oblivion damage will finish of opponents equal to wrath as far as stealing kills; this holds especially true for dots.

Of course I'm sure wrath was involved, but we can't actually come to that conclusion based on the evidence provided

Its more of my anecdotal experience with a screenshot to help display what I'm talking about. Of course there's no way to draw a definite conclusion from just this but I have a suspicion that this happens to more people than just me.

Shadowmaster

lol so many sorc bads misreading the OP and defending their overperforming bg class

Waffennacht

Abhaya wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

max_only wrote: »

Um, isn’t op the “kill stealing” Sorc? I’m confused.

I'm hella confused too.

The only thing I can derive from this recap is:

He did well
He did a lot of damage to opponents that were then killed by the third team.

There is no evidence that wrath was the execute or ability that finished of an opponent - believe it or not, Oblivion damage will finish of opponents equal to wrath as far as stealing kills; this holds especially true for dots.

Of course I'm sure wrath was involved, but we can't actually come to that conclusion based on the evidence provided

Its more of my anecdotal experience with a screenshot to help display what I'm talking about. Of course there's no way to draw a definite conclusion from just this but I have a suspicion that this happens to more people than just me.

But, on the flip side. Say on a match I only score 6 kills, but have 33 assists. That's not sorc etc, that's my build. I also will heavily out score all the people whom did the killing. Seems legit right?

starkerealm

Mureel wrote: »

Besides, give it a few mins and Jesus Beam is gonna be the new salt factory.

Just in time for me to BG level my last character, a Khajiit Templar in the 30s.