what carries over to werewolf bar?

Aliyavana

I plan to run a stam sorc ww next patch and I am wondering if for example it matters if you are running a axe and a dagger or double daggers while in ww form. Do passives carry over at all over to werewolf form aside from class passives? I know some things like doing dw is good as you benefit from double glyphs

Kartalin

This sounds like a question for @Chrlynsch perhaps?

if your gear gives you passives that are always on, those should remain on. Things like expert hunter that give you major savagery on that bar I think would not stick because as a WW you'll be on a different bar entirely. Anything that has a duration attached to it (hurricane for instance, or crit surge) will run it's duration after you transform but cannot be reapplied until back in non-WW form of course.

Qbiken

These things carries over
Weapon enchants
Weapon Traits
Slotted Poisons
Armor Sets
Armor Traits
Racial Passives
Class Passives
Alliance War Passives
Guild Passives

These don't
Weapon Passives (Twin Blade and Blunt for example)
Effects that require an ability on your bar

Chrlynsch

*Clears Throat*
What @Qbiken said.

Aliyavana

so in theory, a ww bar should be in duel wield to take advantage of duel enchants?

worsttankever

Aliyavana wrote: »

so in theory, a ww bar should be in duel wield to take advantage of duel enchants?

That or sword & shield for extra resist / stats via shied enchant.

FrancisCrawford

Are all the same things true for Overload bars?

Waffennacht

FrancisCrawford wrote: »

Are all the same things true for Overload bars?

Pretty sure

Maryal

Qbiken wrote: »

These things carries over
Weapon enchants
Weapon Traits
Slotted Poisons
Armor Sets
Armor Traits
Racial Passives
Class Passives
Alliance War Passives
Guild Passives

These don't
Weapon Passives (Twin Blade and Blunt for example)
Effects that require an ability on your bar

Assuming this list is correct, there is something very wrong in the game design when a WW, a creature susceptible to poison, can kill a player using poison, then devour that player's poisoned corpse and suffer no adverse consequence.

When the WW devours a corpse that they poisoned he/she should gain absolutely NO benefit. In fact, the opposite should occur, the WW should suffer a detriment ... they should immediately revert to human form with a poison status effect.

Thogard

Maryal wrote: »

Qbiken wrote: »

These things carries over
Weapon enchants
Weapon Traits
Slotted Poisons
Armor Sets
Armor Traits
Racial Passives
Class Passives
Alliance War Passives
Guild Passives

These don't
Weapon Passives (Twin Blade and Blunt for example)
Effects that require an ability on your bar

Assuming this list is correct, there is something very wrong in the game design when a WW, a creature susceptible to poison, can kill a player using poison, then devour that player's poisoned corpse and suffer no adverse consequence.

When the WW devours a corpse that they poisoned he/she should gain absolutely NO benefit. In fact, the opposite should occur, the WW should suffer a detriment ... they should immediately revert to human form with a poison status effect.

You should bring it up with the werewolves you know IRL I bet they’ll be mad that the game portrays them unrealistically.

Sergykid

Maryal wrote: »

Qbiken wrote: »

These things carries over
Weapon enchants
Weapon Traits
Slotted Poisons
Armor Sets
Armor Traits
Racial Passives
Class Passives
Alliance War Passives
Guild Passives

These don't
Weapon Passives (Twin Blade and Blunt for example)
Effects that require an ability on your bar

Assuming this list is correct, there is something very wrong in the game design when a WW, a creature susceptible to poison, can kill a player using poison, then devour that player's poisoned corpse and suffer no adverse consequence.

When the WW devours a corpse that they poisoned he/she should gain absolutely NO benefit. In fact, the opposite should occur, the WW should suffer a detriment ... they should immediately revert to human form with a poison status effect.

once the target is dead, poison fades out and loses its effects.

and what about armor passives? didn't see them on the list

Chrlynsch

Maryal wrote: »

Qbiken wrote: »

These things carries over
Weapon enchants
Weapon Traits
Slotted Poisons
Armor Sets
Armor Traits
Racial Passives
Class Passives
Alliance War Passives
Guild Passives

These don't
Weapon Passives (Twin Blade and Blunt for example)
Effects that require an ability on your bar

Assuming this list is correct, there is something very wrong in the game design when a WW, a creature susceptible to poison, can kill a player using poison, then devour that player's poisoned corpse and suffer no adverse consequence.

When the WW devours a corpse that they poisoned he/she should gain absolutely NO benefit. In fact, the opposite should occur, the WW should suffer a detriment ... they should immediately revert to human form with a poison status effect.

A werewolf can devour Dwemer construct remains, aka scrap metal. Let's not underestimate the digestive strength of a werewolf's stomach.

Chrlynsch

Chrlynsch wrote: »

Maryal wrote: »

Qbiken wrote: »

These things carries over
Weapon enchants
Weapon Traits
Slotted Poisons
Armor Sets
Armor Traits
Racial Passives
Class Passives
Alliance War Passives
Guild Passives

These don't
Weapon Passives (Twin Blade and Blunt for example)
Effects that require an ability on your bar

Assuming this list is correct, there is something very wrong in the game design when a WW, a creature susceptible to poison, can kill a player using poison, then devour that player's poisoned corpse and suffer no adverse consequence.

When the WW devours a corpse that they poisoned he/she should gain absolutely NO benefit. In fact, the opposite should occur, the WW should suffer a detriment ... they should immediately revert to human form with a poison status effect.

A werewolf can devour Dwemer construct remains, aka scrap metal. Let's not underestimate the digestive strength of a werewolf's stomach.

But to further elaborate, for lore, it is more than likely that the Werewolf's stomach contains special acids and enzymes that help breakdown the poisonous compounds. Just like real life predators that consume snakes, spiders, and other poisonous animals.

Poisons that enter the blood stream via injection over ingestion act differently.

For more information contact American Association of Poison Control.

Brutusmax1mus

Wolf form is going to be such a carry next patch

Waffennacht

Thogard wrote: »

Maryal wrote: »

Qbiken wrote: »

These things carries over
Weapon enchants
Weapon Traits
Slotted Poisons
Armor Sets
Armor Traits
Racial Passives
Class Passives
Alliance War Passives
Guild Passives

These don't
Weapon Passives (Twin Blade and Blunt for example)
Effects that require an ability on your bar

Assuming this list is correct, there is something very wrong in the game design when a WW, a creature susceptible to poison, can kill a player using poison, then devour that player's poisoned corpse and suffer no adverse consequence.

When the WW devours a corpse that they poisoned he/she should gain absolutely NO benefit. In fact, the opposite should occur, the WW should suffer a detriment ... they should immediately revert to human form with a poison status effect.

You should bring it up with the werewolves you know IRL I bet they’ll be mad that the game portrays them unrealistically.

@Thogard lmfao, just made me laugh so hard. I read it in such a matter of fact tone too

Takes-No-Prisoner

Aliyavana wrote: »

so in theory, a ww bar should be in duel wield to take advantage of duel enchants?

Yes

I have been dabbling with a StamTemplar build and she is running DW/2H. Both the poison enchant and weapon damage enchant go off when i light attack targets as a WW. This even includes ravager as well.

You mainly Pvp in Non-CP campaigns yes? Let me know how that works out for you. I am really curious to see how WW will be in no CP.

paulsimonps

I want to point out that while Class passives do carry over they only do so if they have no requirements. Anything that forces you to use a class skill or slot a class skill will obviously not carry over. So very very few of the class passives actually carry over. Sorcs and Templars have the most carry over and in my opinion Sorcs have the strongest set of carry over passives compared to Templars.

jircris11

Maryal wrote: »

Qbiken wrote: »

These things carries over
Weapon enchants
Weapon Traits
Slotted Poisons
Armor Sets
Armor Traits
Racial Passives
Class Passives
Alliance War Passives
Guild Passives

These don't
Weapon Passives (Twin Blade and Blunt for example)
Effects that require an ability on your bar

Assuming this list is correct, there is something very wrong in the game design when a WW, a creature susceptible to poison, can kill a player using poison, then devour that player's poisoned corpse and suffer no adverse consequence.

When the WW devours a corpse that they poisoned he/she should gain absolutely NO benefit. In fact, the opposite should occur, the WW should suffer a detriment ... they should immediately revert to human form with a poison status effect.

You DARE bring logic to the forums! I get what you mean but it's no worse then vamp usinusing fire or eating a flame creature

Aliyavana

jircris11 wrote: »

Maryal wrote: »

Qbiken wrote: »

These things carries over
Weapon enchants
Weapon Traits
Slotted Poisons
Armor Sets
Armor Traits
Racial Passives
Class Passives
Alliance War Passives
Guild Passives

These don't
Weapon Passives (Twin Blade and Blunt for example)
Effects that require an ability on your bar

Assuming this list is correct, there is something very wrong in the game design when a WW, a creature susceptible to poison, can kill a player using poison, then devour that player's poisoned corpse and suffer no adverse consequence.

When the WW devours a corpse that they poisoned he/she should gain absolutely NO benefit. In fact, the opposite should occur, the WW should suffer a detriment ... they should immediately revert to human form with a poison status effect.

You DARE bring logic to the forums! I get what you mean but it's no worse then vamp usinusing fire or eating a flame creature

You are arguing about logic, but you bumped a 5 month old thread