Group vs Group Duels

callen4492

Why are there not group vs group duels already? This simple addition would add so much life to the PvP. A few things it would add/make possible:
- Guild vs Guild duels
- Guild vs Guild tournaments
- Prestige in guild membership
- A new form of pvp where there hasn’t been anything new for a while
- Semi-customized pvp - you can control who you are fighting- something you can’t do in BG’s and Cyrodiil


Plain and simple- THIS NEEDS TO HAPPEN. Drop whatever stupid BG map your designing or new useless armor sets and make this happen pronto.

Cously

We needs it.

XGCAlbatr0ss

This definitely needs to happen ASAP.

jedtb16_ESO

a duel is a contest between two people...

group duel makes no sense, perhaps that's why it's not a thing.

White wabbit

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

a duel is a contest between two people...

group duel makes no sense, perhaps that's why it's not a thing.

I was thinking that my self

Apache_Kid

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

a duel is a contest between two people...

group duel makes no sense, perhaps that's why it's not a thing.

Call it a gang war then. Either way it would be a fun feature to add. No reason not to do it.

White wabbit

Apache_Kid wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

a duel is a contest between two people...

group duel makes no sense, perhaps that's why it's not a thing.

Call it a gang war then. Either way it would be a fun feature to add. No reason not to do it.

Isn't that what cryodill is for?

Apache_Kid

White wabbit wrote: »

Apache_Kid wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

a duel is a contest between two people...

group duel makes no sense, perhaps that's why it's not a thing.

Call it a gang war then. Either way it would be a fun feature to add. No reason not to do it.

Isn't that what cryodill is for?

No. If you wanted to arrange a group v. group fight in cyrodiil you would have to have each side on separate alliances and then arrange on a meeting spot, which would have to be out of the way to avoid other players engaging in your fight and then upon completion of the fight, one team would have to revive somewhere and ride all the way back if you wanted to have a rematch or already have had a forward camp up near there. All of this is a hassle What OP is asking for is a way for the dueling system to be expanded to allow groups to participate in it.

White wabbit

Apache_Kid wrote: »

White wabbit wrote: »

Apache_Kid wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

a duel is a contest between two people...

group duel makes no sense, perhaps that's why it's not a thing.

Call it a gang war then. Either way it would be a fun feature to add. No reason not to do it.

Isn't that what cryodill is for?

No. If you wanted to arrange a group v. group fight in cyrodiil you would have to have each side on separate alliances and then arrange on a meeting spot, which would have to be out of the way to avoid other players engaging in your fight and then upon completion of the fight, one team would have to revive somewhere and ride all the way back if you wanted to have a rematch or already have had a forward camp up near there. All of this is a hassle What OP is asking for is a way for the dueling system to be expanded to allow groups to participate in it.

That I do understand but I just don't see the need of group duels outside of PvP it's bad enough seeing 1 vs 1 fighting in towns now they want group duels , what's the next step open world PvP

Apache_Kid

White wabbit wrote: »

Apache_Kid wrote: »

White wabbit wrote: »

Apache_Kid wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

a duel is a contest between two people...

group duel makes no sense, perhaps that's why it's not a thing.

Call it a gang war then. Either way it would be a fun feature to add. No reason not to do it.

Isn't that what cryodill is for?

No. If you wanted to arrange a group v. group fight in cyrodiil you would have to have each side on separate alliances and then arrange on a meeting spot, which would have to be out of the way to avoid other players engaging in your fight and then upon completion of the fight, one team would have to revive somewhere and ride all the way back if you wanted to have a rematch or already have had a forward camp up near there. All of this is a hassle What OP is asking for is a way for the dueling system to be expanded to allow groups to participate in it.

That I do understand but I just don't see the need of group duels outside of PvP it's bad enough seeing 1 vs 1 fighting in towns now they want group duels , what's the next step open world PvP

Yeah i can see how a big 5v5 fight right next to the wayshrine could be annoying and cause issues. Maybe restrict it to player houses so people can make good use of the cool gladiator arena's they made or something.

Also even though i know it will never happen and many are against it but I long for open world PvP in this game lol.

Datthaw

White wabbit wrote: »

Apache_Kid wrote: »

White wabbit wrote: »

Apache_Kid wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

a duel is a contest between two people...

group duel makes no sense, perhaps that's why it's not a thing.

Call it a gang war then. Either way it would be a fun feature to add. No reason not to do it.

Isn't that what cryodill is for?

No. If you wanted to arrange a group v. group fight in cyrodiil you would have to have each side on separate alliances and then arrange on a meeting spot, which would have to be out of the way to avoid other players engaging in your fight and then upon completion of the fight, one team would have to revive somewhere and ride all the way back if you wanted to have a rematch or already have had a forward camp up near there. All of this is a hassle What OP is asking for is a way for the dueling system to be expanded to allow groups to participate in it.

That I do understand but I just don't see the need of group duels outside of PvP it's bad enough seeing 1 vs 1 fighting in towns now they want group duels , what's the next step open world PvP

I think it's a great idea and so would a massive majority of pvp players. It would allow faction guilds to duel each other and 2v2 3v3 fights are alot of fun. That is why we need group duels.

Openworld pvp is also another fun idea that has been tossed around, being in a completely separate instance from pve ofcourse.

That is why we need it, or are you just trolling the poor guy?

White wabbit

Datthaw wrote: »

White wabbit wrote: »

Apache_Kid wrote: »

White wabbit wrote: »

Apache_Kid wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

a duel is a contest between two people...

group duel makes no sense, perhaps that's why it's not a thing.

Call it a gang war then. Either way it would be a fun feature to add. No reason not to do it.

Isn't that what cryodill is for?

No. If you wanted to arrange a group v. group fight in cyrodiil you would have to have each side on separate alliances and then arrange on a meeting spot, which would have to be out of the way to avoid other players engaging in your fight and then upon completion of the fight, one team would have to revive somewhere and ride all the way back if you wanted to have a rematch or already have had a forward camp up near there. All of this is a hassle What OP is asking for is a way for the dueling system to be expanded to allow groups to participate in it.

That I do understand but I just don't see the need of group duels outside of PvP it's bad enough seeing 1 vs 1 fighting in towns now they want group duels , what's the next step open world PvP

I think it's a great idea and so would a massive majority of pvp players. It would allow faction guilds to duel each other and 2v2 3v3 fights are alot of fun. That is why we need group duels.

Openworld pvp is also another fun idea that has been tossed around, being in a completely separate instance from pve ofcourse.

That is why we need it, or are you just trolling the poor guy?

Lol nope not trolling as I'm a pvper and it's not something I can say I'm interested in but I guess if it was in a guild house so not to disturbed people then go for it , as or open world PvP just no

Thestephenmcraeub17_ESO

More options for smaller scale PvP are always better. Give us 4v4 or 8v8 BG modes in addition to group "duels" (would have to change the name though) and guild fights.

TequilaFire

It would have to be restricted to inside Cyrodiil. There are plenty of open places and broken tower/battlement props for it.

Ragebull

I feel like the only people interested would be the handful of aggressive cool guy duelers who hangout by the wayshrines. Other than those types I think most would find it off putting

I just don’t see enough reason to implement it (so I guess that means ZOS will put it at the top of their to do list)

Sylosi

Unless a game has combat with a high skill cap and the game is completely balanced around it (ESO is neither of those things), duels (solo or "group") are pretty dull and often a total cheesefest due to that lack of balance, if they added something for guilds I prefer the added something where guilds fight over guild castles like you get in some games, like GvG in Guild Wars 1, so there is a bit more to it than just herp, derp "duel".

Ackwalan

As long as it is in its own zone. It's bad enough having people duel in populated areas, it would be a lot worse having 8 people potatoing around at a city wayshrine.

Katahdin

This should not be doable anywhere for several reasons.

I could see a system where 2 even sized groups each wearing their guild tabard could make a larger group then que for an instanced map for a guild vs guild or have some sort of simultaneous que where two group leaders agree to que vs the other group.

The game would sort them by their tabards and there would be a count down timer before everyone was loaded in like what happens in battlegrounds.

There could be guild leaderboards each week. They could have several different maps (or map could be random) and modes (DM, Domination, etc) the guild group leaders would agree on when queing. Could be on map, one match or best of 3.

Would be a good thing for guilds to build events around

Danksta

This would be extremely fun. I also would like to see an option for lopsided teams. 1v2's 2v3's etc.

ks888

We've had many GvG's in the past, but it was always the players who organized it. You can find plenty of vids on YouTube from the previous ones. We always did them in places on the map where there would be little pug interference. If trolls came along, we had a goon squad to take them out so they didn't interfere. Always a lot of fun.

Danksta

ks888 wrote: »

We've had many GvG's in the past, but it was always the players who organized it. You can find plenty of vids on YouTube from the previous ones. We always did them in places on the map where there would be little pug interference. If trolls came along, we had a goon squad to take them out so they didn't interfere. Always a lot of fun.

I've heard of these but it's a bit limited since your opponents would need to be on different factions.

Mannix1958

callen4492 wrote: »

Why are there not group vs group duels already? This simple addition would add so much life to the PvP. A few things it would add/make possible:
- Guild vs Guild duels
- Guild vs Guild tournaments
- Prestige in guild membership
- A new form of pvp where there hasn’t been anything new for a while
- Semi-customized pvp - you can control who you are fighting- something you can’t do in BG’s and Cyrodiil


Plain and simple- THIS NEEDS TO HAPPEN. Drop whatever stupid BG map your designing or new useless armor sets and make this happen pronto.

Love all the ideas. Had several of these same thoughts...plus how about a simple Open World PvP flag that when turned on means you're open game for opposing factions...likewise you could go after opponents flagged.

White wabbit

Mannix1958 wrote: »

callen4492 wrote: »

Why are there not group vs group duels already? This simple addition would add so much life to the PvP. A few things it would add/make possible:
- Guild vs Guild duels
- Guild vs Guild tournaments
- Prestige in guild membership
- A new form of pvp where there hasn’t been anything new for a while
- Semi-customized pvp - you can control who you are fighting- something you can’t do in BG’s and Cyrodiil


Plain and simple- THIS NEEDS TO HAPPEN. Drop whatever stupid BG map your designing or new useless armor sets and make this happen pronto.

Love all the ideas. Had several of these same thoughts...plus how about a simple Open World PvP flag that when turned on means you're open game for opposing factions...likewise you could go after opponents flagged.

I PvP but open world NO just NO and just don't see this happening

Enslaved

I would love to see more PvP modes like that.

2v2 duels
2v1 duel
3v3
6v6
12v12
etc

Gythral

You want to gang up on each other - there's loads and loads of empty space in Cyrodill or IC...

Enslaved

Gythral wrote: »

You want to gang up on each other - there's loads and loads of empty space in Cyrodill or IC...

ppl that play same alliance and would like to have these group clashes are unable to do so.

Hamish999

Just add the ability to create invite only Battlegrounds. Even include the ability to have 2, 3 or 4 person teams (all teams of equal number).

Gythral

Ok I'd go for an invite only Battle ground where all duels and gang warfare can happen (leader invites leader)
but all duels get removed to there on acceptance...
(and I do mean all)

no queue system just direct invite using existing battle ground maps - no scoring no gains etc..

Jolipinator

Just line your groups up face to face and duel the person in front of you.

Mannix1958

White wabbit wrote: »

Mannix1958 wrote: »

callen4492 wrote: »

Why are there not group vs group duels already? This simple addition would add so much life to the PvP. A few things it would add/make possible:
- Guild vs Guild duels
- Guild vs Guild tournaments
- Prestige in guild membership
- A new form of pvp where there hasn’t been anything new for a while
- Semi-customized pvp - you can control who you are fighting- something you can’t do in BG’s and Cyrodiil


Plain and simple- THIS NEEDS TO HAPPEN. Drop whatever stupid BG map your designing or new useless armor sets and make this happen pronto.

Love all the ideas. Had several of these same thoughts...plus how about a simple Open World PvP flag that when turned on means you're open game for opposing factions...likewise you could go after opponents flagged.

I PvP but open world NO just NO and just don't see this happening

Really...it was nicely implemented in Star Wars Galaxies. What's your objection? Lag?

Berdusk

Thread Necromancy!

I would like to see this in standard group sizes (4 v 4 standard) if for no other reason than the fact I'd like to be able to organize group tournaments in my Elinhir Arena.

If this has been implemented since this thread, and I am unaware of it, well... my bad. If not, it would be really lovely to see this happen and to be able to do the above. It could make inter- and intra- guild events organized by players much more of an option.