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does ravager proc off hurricane?

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title and thanks.
  • Swimguy
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    Swimguy wrote: »
    title and thanks.

    also how do 2h axe stack up against sword when fighting shields.
    Edited by Swimguy on July 21, 2018 4:34AM
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    Swimguy wrote: »
    Swimguy wrote: »
    title and thanks.

    also how do 2h axe stack up against sword when fighting shields.

    Maybe post PvP questions in the PvP forum? https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/categories/PvP-combat-skills
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    Swimguy wrote: »
    Swimguy wrote: »
    title and thanks.

    also how do 2h axe stack up against sword when fighting shields.

    Maybe post PvP questions in the PvP forum? https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/categories/PvP-combat-skills

    It's a combat mechanic question, so definitely belongs in this category.
    I didn't read that there was a difference between PvP or PvE combat mechanics in the sub category title.
    Edited by Kel on July 21, 2018 8:03AM
  • Lightspeedflashb14_ESO
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    jabrone77 wrote: »
    Swimguy wrote: »
    Swimguy wrote: »
    title and thanks.

    also how do 2h axe stack up against sword when fighting shields.

    Maybe post PvP questions in the PvP forum? https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/categories/PvP-combat-skills

    It's a combat mechanic question, so definitely belongs in this category.
    I didn't read that there was a difference between PvP or PvE combat mechanics in the sub category title.

    There are no damage shields in pve. So PvP question. And ravager is only used on stamplars that use reliquin in pve, that is the only way to have a reliable enough up time on that set to beat either veiled heritance or just hundings in dps.
    Edited by Lightspeedflashb14_ESO on July 21, 2018 8:12AM
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    jabrone77 wrote: »
    Swimguy wrote: »
    Swimguy wrote: »
    title and thanks.

    also how do 2h axe stack up against sword when fighting shields.

    Maybe post PvP questions in the PvP forum? https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/categories/PvP-combat-skills

    It's a combat mechanic question, so definitely belongs in this category.
    I didn't read that there was a difference between PvP or PvE combat mechanics in the sub category title.

    There are no damage shields in pve. So PvP question.

    What are you talking about? There are bosses with Damage shields. Also Hurricane is a damage over time AOE ability like Blade Cloak. OP is asking if this ability can proc Ravagers.

    Also OP sorry don’t know, but if I were you I’d use Briarheart over Ravagers. Unless you have Relequen, Ravagers has extremely low uptime on Stam Sorcs.

    Source: Stam Sorc main who tried really hard to make Ravagers work

    P.s. 2H bleed is just like any dot on a damage shield though people feel free to correct me if I am wrong.
    Edited by Chibs on July 21, 2018 8:16AM
  • Lightspeedflashb14_ESO
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    Chibs wrote: »
    jabrone77 wrote: »
    Swimguy wrote: »
    Swimguy wrote: »
    title and thanks.

    also how do 2h axe stack up against sword when fighting shields.

    Maybe post PvP questions in the PvP forum? https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/categories/PvP-combat-skills

    It's a combat mechanic question, so definitely belongs in this category.
    I didn't read that there was a difference between PvP or PvE combat mechanics in the sub category title.

    There are no damage shields in pve. So PvP question.

    What are you talking about? There are bosses with Damage shields. Also Hurricane is a damage over time AOE ability like Blade Cloak. OP is asking if this ability can proc Ravagers.

    Also OP sorry don’t know, but if I were you I’d use Briarheart over Ravagers. Unless you have Relequen, Ravagers has extremely low uptime on Stam Sorcs.

    Source: Stam Sorc main who tried really hard to make Ravagers work

    P.s. 2H bleed is just like any dot on a damage shield though people feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

    The only boss I know of that has a sheild is sellitrix. And most people don't understand the machanic on that fight, you have to keep her in the water to keep the damage shield off. But that is neither here nor there when it comes to axes vs shields in pve, the vast majority of mobs, like 99% will not have them so what does it matter.
  • Joker99
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    Chibs wrote: »
    jabrone77 wrote: »
    Swimguy wrote: »
    Swimguy wrote: »
    title and thanks.

    also how do 2h axe stack up against sword when fighting shields.

    Maybe post PvP questions in the PvP forum? https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/categories/PvP-combat-skills

    It's a combat mechanic question, so definitely belongs in this category.
    I didn't read that there was a difference between PvP or PvE combat mechanics in the sub category title.

    There are no damage shields in pve. So PvP question.

    What are you talking about? There are bosses with Damage shields. Also Hurricane is a damage over time AOE ability like Blade Cloak. OP is asking if this ability can proc Ravagers.

    Also OP sorry don’t know, but if I were you I’d use Briarheart over Ravagers. Unless you have Relequen, Ravagers has extremely low uptime on Stam Sorcs.

    Source: Stam Sorc main who tried really hard to make Ravagers work

    P.s. 2H bleed is just like any dot on a damage shield though people feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

    The only boss I know of that has a sheild is sellitrix. And most people don't understand the machanic on that fight, you have to keep her in the water to keep the damage shield off. But that is neither here nor there when it comes to axes vs shields in pve, the vast majority of mobs, like 99% will not have them so what does it matter.

    Zaj'hassa has a damage shield.
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    Joker99 wrote: »
    Chibs wrote: »
    jabrone77 wrote: »
    Swimguy wrote: »
    Swimguy wrote: »
    title and thanks.

    also how do 2h axe stack up against sword when fighting shields.

    Maybe post PvP questions in the PvP forum? https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/categories/PvP-combat-skills

    It's a combat mechanic question, so definitely belongs in this category.
    I didn't read that there was a difference between PvP or PvE combat mechanics in the sub category title.

    There are no damage shields in pve. So PvP question.

    What are you talking about? There are bosses with Damage shields. Also Hurricane is a damage over time AOE ability like Blade Cloak. OP is asking if this ability can proc Ravagers.

    Also OP sorry don’t know, but if I were you I’d use Briarheart over Ravagers. Unless you have Relequen, Ravagers has extremely low uptime on Stam Sorcs.

    Source: Stam Sorc main who tried really hard to make Ravagers work

    P.s. 2H bleed is just like any dot on a damage shield though people feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

    The only boss I know of that has a sheild is sellitrix. And most people don't understand the machanic on that fight, you have to keep her in the water to keep the damage shield off. But that is neither here nor there when it comes to axes vs shields in pve, the vast majority of mobs, like 99% will not have them so what does it matter.

    Zaj'hassa has a damage shield.

    Yes, the shadow burst. My point still stands.
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    Swimguy wrote: »
    Swimguy wrote: »
    title and thanks.

    also how do 2h axe stack up against sword when fighting shields.

    Maybe post PvP questions in the PvP forum? https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/categories/PvP-combat-skills

    Nope, thread is in correct subforum.

    @OP: Hurricane doesn't proc Ravager.
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    Joker99 wrote: »
    Chibs wrote: »
    jabrone77 wrote: »
    Swimguy wrote: »
    Swimguy wrote: »
    title and thanks.

    also how do 2h axe stack up against sword when fighting shields.

    Maybe post PvP questions in the PvP forum? https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/categories/PvP-combat-skills

    It's a combat mechanic question, so definitely belongs in this category.
    I didn't read that there was a difference between PvP or PvE combat mechanics in the sub category title.

    There are no damage shields in pve. So PvP question.

    What are you talking about? There are bosses with Damage shields. Also Hurricane is a damage over time AOE ability like Blade Cloak. OP is asking if this ability can proc Ravagers.

    Also OP sorry don’t know, but if I were you I’d use Briarheart over Ravagers. Unless you have Relequen, Ravagers has extremely low uptime on Stam Sorcs.

    Source: Stam Sorc main who tried really hard to make Ravagers work

    P.s. 2H bleed is just like any dot on a damage shield though people feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

    The only boss I know of that has a sheild is sellitrix. And most people don't understand the machanic on that fight, you have to keep her in the water to keep the damage shield off. But that is neither here nor there when it comes to axes vs shields in pve, the vast majority of mobs, like 99% will not have them so what does it matter.

    Zaj'hassa has a damage shield.

    Yes, the shadow burst. My point still stands.

    Domihaus has a shield
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    Swimguy wrote: »
    Swimguy wrote: »
    title and thanks.

    also how do 2h axe stack up against sword when fighting shields.

    Maybe post PvP questions in the PvP forum? https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/categories/PvP-combat-skills

    Discuss classes, skills, your builds, and the finer details of combat.

    What about the above statement makes you think this section is designed for PvE only?
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    Ridonkulous.

    Ty for the info
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  • Jeezye
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    The only reliable way I found to proc ravager reliabily on a stamsorc is by running DW. Twinslashes, Tornado, Blade cloak and heavy attacks all have multiple damage instances that allow a good uptime.

    This however can be applied to all classes, not just exclusively stamsorc
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    Hurricane does not proc ravager however veiled heritance does.
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    Chibs wrote: »
    jabrone77 wrote: »
    Swimguy wrote: »
    Swimguy wrote: »
    title and thanks.

    also how do 2h axe stack up against sword when fighting shields.

    Maybe post PvP questions in the PvP forum? https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/categories/PvP-combat-skills

    It's a combat mechanic question, so definitely belongs in this category.
    I didn't read that there was a difference between PvP or PvE combat mechanics in the sub category title.

    There are no damage shields in pve. So PvP question.

    What are you talking about? There are bosses with Damage shields. Also Hurricane is a damage over time AOE ability like Blade Cloak. OP is asking if this ability can proc Ravagers.

    Also OP sorry don’t know, but if I were you I’d use Briarheart over Ravagers. Unless you have Relequen, Ravagers has extremely low uptime on Stam Sorcs.

    Source: Stam Sorc main who tried really hard to make Ravagers work

    P.s. 2H bleed is just like any dot on a damage shield though people feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

    I use Ravager on my stamsorc. My average uptime is about 65-70% in raid. You can increase uptime by running Deadly Cloak (the DoT procs Ravager) but that's only reasonable in a few fights. What I do is end my DW rotation with a light attack, so LA->Crushing Weapon->LA->swap->Endless Hail. That gives one extra chance to proc Ravager and Berserker.

    Any uptime above ~63.5% and Ravager is always better than Veiled Heritance (and in reality, you only need 58-60% since Veiled Heritance uptime won't be 100%), plus the resistance bonus on Veiled Heritance is utterly useless while the health bonus on Ravager allows you to run 7 medium and use Artaeum Takeaway/Dubious.
    Edited by LiquidPony on August 17, 2018 7:30PM
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    Also relyquen seems to proc ravager.
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    jabrone77 wrote: »
    Swimguy wrote: »
    Swimguy wrote: »
    title and thanks.

    also how do 2h axe stack up against sword when fighting shields.

    Maybe post PvP questions in the PvP forum? https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/categories/PvP-combat-skills

    It's a combat mechanic question, so definitely belongs in this category.
    I didn't read that there was a difference between PvP or PvE combat mechanics in the sub category title.

    There are no damage shields in pve. So PvP question. And ravager is only used on stamplars that use reliquin in pve, that is the only way to have a reliable enough up time on that set to beat either veiled heritance or just hundings in dps.

    Archmiester Siniel second boss crypt of hearts one has a shield.
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    Chibs wrote: »
    jabrone77 wrote: »
    Swimguy wrote: »
    Swimguy wrote: »
    title and thanks.

    also how do 2h axe stack up against sword when fighting shields.

    Maybe post PvP questions in the PvP forum? https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/categories/PvP-combat-skills

    It's a combat mechanic question, so definitely belongs in this category.
    I didn't read that there was a difference between PvP or PvE combat mechanics in the sub category title.

    There are no damage shields in pve. So PvP question.

    What are you talking about? There are bosses with Damage shields. Also Hurricane is a damage over time AOE ability like Blade Cloak. OP is asking if this ability can proc Ravagers.

    Also OP sorry don’t know, but if I were you I’d use Briarheart over Ravagers. Unless you have Relequen, Ravagers has extremely low uptime on Stam Sorcs.

    Source: Stam Sorc main who tried really hard to make Ravagers work

    P.s. 2H bleed is just like any dot on a damage shield though people feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

    The only boss I know of that has a sheild is sellitrix. And most people don't understand the machanic on that fight, you have to keep her in the water to keep the damage shield off. But that is neither here nor there when it comes to axes vs shields in pve, the vast majority of mobs, like 99% will not have them so what does it matter.

    Transmuted Hive Lord in darkshade 2 has a damage shield
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    jabrone77 wrote: »
    Swimguy wrote: »
    Swimguy wrote: »
    title and thanks.

    also how do 2h axe stack up against sword when fighting shields.

    Maybe post PvP questions in the PvP forum? https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/categories/PvP-combat-skills

    It's a combat mechanic question, so definitely belongs in this category.
    I didn't read that there was a difference between PvP or PvE combat mechanics in the sub category title.

    There are no damage shields in pve. So PvP question. And ravager is only used on stamplars that use reliquin in pve, that is the only way to have a reliable enough up time on that set to beat either veiled heritance or just hundings in dps.

    Nerien'eth Crypt of hears I has a damage shield.
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    If running relequen you can get decent uptime on Ravager since it procs it. Hurricance doesn't tho so it's single target DoT's, spammable & light attacks.

    Also the most notable one for me is 1st boss vMoL ;) Axe bleeds will be the same both with and without shield since bleeds ignore resistances, but shields have to resistance. Only difference is you can't crit against shields. Shields render daggers and mace's useless while they're up for that reason.
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  • nryerson1025
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    Ravager uptime is significantly low on sorc except when using that Stam set
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    Swimguy wrote: »
    title and thanks.

    Neither hurricane, nor power extraction.
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    jabrone77 wrote: »
    Swimguy wrote: »
    Swimguy wrote: »
    title and thanks.

    also how do 2h axe stack up against sword when fighting shields.

    Maybe post PvP questions in the PvP forum? https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/categories/PvP-combat-skills

    It's a combat mechanic question, so definitely belongs in this category.
    I didn't read that there was a difference between PvP or PvE combat mechanics in the sub category title.

    There are no damage shields in pve. So PvP question. And ravager is only used on stamplars that use reliquin in pve, that is the only way to have a reliable enough up time on that set to beat either veiled heritance or just hundings in dps.

    Pretty sure a healer used healing ward on me some time ago...
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