Anyone still noticing lightning staff heavy attacks not registering?

BozzyTheDrummer

Still having this issue. When going through my rotation, when I get to my heavy attacks, 90% of the time my guy is just hunched over holding his staff looking like he's about to fire it off, but nothing happens. Been experiencing this the last few months, but seems like it's getting worse. I can get them to register if I am front and center in melee range pointing dead center at the enemy and even then, sometimes they don't register.

I like to cast from a distance as I am your typical glass cannon sorc, I don't want to have to get into melee range every time I switch to heavy attacks, as I run the risk of being killed.

I know it isn't just myself experiencing this, as I have seen other discuss this too, but wanted to know if anyone else is still experiencing this. I this the norm now for heavy attacks? Is this happening with inferno/ice staves, too?

A few months ago, before I noticed this starting to happen, I had no trouble at all having to fire heavy attacks, as they always registered when i hold the button. But now, it have to be front and center, directly on the target to get them to fire most of the time.

rumple9

Yep they definitely don't fire off but I notice it the most when doing vma

mikemacon

Yep.

And it does indeed seem to be getting worse.

I can hit "block" very quickly and the HA will resume...but that screws up your rotation, too.

And of course we still have the issue of lightning staff HAs firing off when you don't want them to.

...good thing they fixed the leaderboard issue, though!

WHEW!!

BozzyTheDrummer

mikemacon wrote: »

Yep.

And it does indeed seem to be getting worse.

I can hit "block" very quickly and the HA will resume...but that screws up your rotation, too.

And of course we still have the issue of lightning staff HAs firing off when you don't want them to.

...good thing they fixed the leaderboard issue, though!

WHEW!!

I didn't even think to mention this!

I can't tell you how many times I screw up my rotation because I gently tap the button for a light attack, and BAM a heavy attack fires instead.

I have my rotation memorized, and go through it naturally, without having to actually think about it. But when the HA doesn't fire when I am initiating it, it screws everything up, my magicka isn't regenerating as much because of it, then *** hits the fan, I over think, and die.

Peekachu99

Yes. Better after the patch (console), but still happening in BGs.

Dojohoda

Yes, sometimes the lightning heavy does not fire at all

BozzyTheDrummer

Dojohoda wrote: »

Yes, sometimes the lightning heavy does not fire at all

@Dojohoda Do you ever notice when you're holding the button, thinking it's firing, but your toon is just crouched there as if he's doing a HA, but it just looks like the staff is charging, rather than firing? I was doing Geysers in Summerset last night, and I noticed a lot, when I get to my bar that I do HA's on, the numbers weren't showing up, and wouldn't you know it, my HA's were even firing.

Violynne

BozzyTheDrummer wrote: »

Still having this issue.

Been having it as well and I believe the issue is line of sight loss to the target.

I constantly lose LoS to the target due to pets, mostly bears.

Not outright blaming them, but it's not a coincidence.

I also lose LoS when opening doors, chests, and safeboxes.

It cannot be a coincidence.

BozzyTheDrummer

Violynne wrote: »

BozzyTheDrummer wrote: »

Still having this issue.

Been having it as well and I believe the issue is line of sight loss to the target.

I constantly lose LoS to the target due to pets, mostly bears.

Not outright blaming them, but it's not a coincidence.

I also lose LoS when opening doors, chests, and safeboxes.

It cannot be a coincidence.

@Violynne you know what, I didn't even think of this as an issue/possible cause. I have the same LoS issue when interacting with NPC's opening doors, chests, nodes, usually because my Matriarch gets in the way.

Come to think of it, I wasn't having this problem before I turned my sorc into a petsorc.

If this is the issue, I wonder if they would consider tweaking pets to where if they are in your way, they don't physically block you from interacting with whatever is on the other side of it. Maybe if they were transparent in some way?

Koolio

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/394020/channel-heavy-attacks-bugged


https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/239501/heavy-attack-bug-glitch

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/399135/heavy-attacks-not-firing-patch-3-3-8-tested-with-dw-stamina-and-lightning-magicka-on-pc-eu

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/404981/heavy-attack-bug

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/415887/heavy-attacks-with-restoration-lightning-staves-still-have-issues-firing

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/400760/heavy-attack-bug-on-xbox

BozzyTheDrummer

Koolio wrote: »

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/394020/channel-heavy-attacks-bugged


https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/239501/heavy-attack-bug-glitch

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/399135/heavy-attacks-not-firing-patch-3-3-8-tested-with-dw-stamina-and-lightning-magicka-on-pc-eu

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/404981/heavy-attack-bug

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/415887/heavy-attacks-with-restoration-lightning-staves-still-have-issues-firing

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/400760/heavy-attack-bug-on-xbox

Well this seems to be a bigger issue than I thought

MarleyRain

Oh yes, this has really been annoying in vma lately. I usually use force pulse then it'll let me heavy attack again but it really screws your rotation up especially in high pressure fights. Cause sometimes I don't notice that it's not firing for a couple seconds.. Happens in dungeons too

Koolio

BozzyTheDrummer wrote: »

Koolio wrote: »

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/394020/channel-heavy-attacks-bugged


https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/239501/heavy-attack-bug-glitch

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/399135/heavy-attacks-not-firing-patch-3-3-8-tested-with-dw-stamina-and-lightning-magicka-on-pc-eu

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/404981/heavy-attack-bug

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/415887/heavy-attacks-with-restoration-lightning-staves-still-have-issues-firing

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/400760/heavy-attack-bug-on-xbox

Well this seems to be a bigger issue than I thought

It been going on for years.

BozzyTheDrummer

MarleyRain wrote: »

Oh yes, this has really been annoying in vma lately. I usually use force pulse then it'll let me heavy attack again but it really screws your rotation up especially in high pressure fights. Cause sometimes I don't notice that it's not firing for a couple seconds.. Happens in dungeons too

This is my issue, I don't notice it right away sometimes, and keep going through my rotation. Next thing you know, my magicka bar is drained when I know it shouldn't be, and have to rely on potions.

Nestor

This can even happen without LOS, although that is the main cause. We spoke with the devs about this back at Summerset Testing. Anyway, some of it has to with animations, some with LOS, some with skill timings. Just so you know, it also happens with an inferno staff too.

The devs said there were things they could do to fix it, but cant try too many things at once. So not sure if they have started the fixes. I am guessing there is not one magical thing that can resolve this

BozzyTheDrummer

Nestor wrote: »

This can even happen without LOS, although that is the main cause. We spoke with the devs about this back at Summerset Testing. Anyway, some of it has to with animations, some with LOS, some with skill timings. Just so you know, it also happens with an inferno staff too.

The devs said there were things they could do to fix it, but cant try too many things at once. So not sure if they have started the fixes. I am guessing there is not one magical thing that can resolve this

Thank you for the info! I am glad to know that they are aware and may be working on the issue.

Nestor

I dont remember if bar swap makes it better or worse, it seems to sort it for me, then again, maybe it was going to sort anyway.

eso_lags

BozzyTheDrummer wrote: »

Still having this issue. When going through my rotation, when I get to my heavy attacks, 90% of the time my guy is just hunched over holding his staff looking like he's about to fire it off, but nothing happens. Been experiencing this the last few months, but seems like it's getting worse. I can get them to register if I am front and center in melee range pointing dead center at the enemy and even then, sometimes they don't register.

I like to cast from a distance as I am your typical glass cannon sorc, I don't want to have to get into melee range every time I switch to heavy attacks, as I run the risk of being killed.

I know it isn't just myself experiencing this, as I have seen other discuss this too, but wanted to know if anyone else is still experiencing this. I this the norm now for heavy attacks? Is this happening with inferno/ice staves, too?

A few months ago, before I noticed this starting to happen, I had no trouble at all having to fire heavy attacks, as they always registered when i hold the button. But now, it have to be front and center, directly on the target to get them to fire most of the time.

Always.. Another shadow nerf from zos that just seems to happen over time. And it sucks.

firedrgn

It Is worse .. wonderjng if the hit box size was changed ? You have to be lined up just right and it seem up and down alignment is the most important?

Merlin13KAGL

LA and HA bug still in full effect both ways (won't fire or won't release)

Targeting is still a huge pile more often than not.

I love standing there looking stupid when my crosshairs are firmly planted dead center of the thing intent on killing me.

Or having something tab targeted and your Ult hits the other enemy instead.

(And it's not a lag thing or a hardware thing, as the keypresses are registering on the client.)

Longstanding stuff like this is slowly sucking the remaining life out of the game.

Tasear

Let me pass this issue along. Though anyone have a video of it?

BozzyTheDrummer

Tasear wrote: »

Let me pass this issue along. Though anyone have a video of it?

It happens often enough for me, I will try and clip a video of it from my Xbox.

Numerikuu

Lightning, restoration and flame staves in that order for me. Pretty damn sick of it. This issue has been going on for far, far too long =/

DirkRavenclaw

And here i was, thinking it is my mouse stopping working lol, i nearly throw my mouse at the wall the other day, lol

BozzyTheDrummer

DirkRavenclaw wrote: »

And here i was, thinking it is my mouse stopping working lol, i nearly throw my mouse at the wall the other day, lol

I have never been one to throw my controller, ever (I am on console) but last night, I kept dying because I'm either having to get too close for my HA's to register, or I'm running around, thinking my HA is firing, but it's really not and start screwing up. Really felt like throwing my controller.

Integral1900

It seems to forget itself, sometimes it won’t heavy attack at all unless I light attack first, heal staffs are the worst for me, they are sooooo dozy now

Aurielle

This started happening fairly consistently for me after Summerset. I’ve noticed too that when I DO manage to get a heavy attack to fire off, I have to hold it for a fraction of a second longer to get resource return. It really screwed up my rotation at first.

I’ve basically stopped doing DPS tests now because it’s so annoying to waste pots on tests that are marred by heavy attacks that fail to fire off.

Malacthulhu

Yes, they didn't fix any issues.

rumple9

I can replicate the error every time doing vma last boss when circling the crematorium guards

testd4n1

Malacthulhu wrote: »

Yes, they didn't fix any issues.

They did fix the slow fall... Or at least I have been unable to recreate it.

Ashtaris

I’ve noticed this on my healer trying to weave in some Heavy’s for Magicka regen. The boss is right in front of me, has the red glow so that I know he should be targetable, holding down the mouse button with nothing happening. Sometimes I’ll get a heavy attack in, but many times I won’t. Very frustrating.