Crest of Cyrodiil set change

Tzayad

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Item Sets

• Crest of Cyrodiil: This item set has been redesigned, and its old effect has been moved to the Ward of Cyrodiil Item Set.
  • OLD:
    • 2: Weapon Damage
    • 3: Max Health
    • 4: Healing Taken
    • 5: When you deal melee damage, you apply Minor Defile to the enemy for 5 seconds, reducing their healing received by 30%. This effect can occur once every 5 seconds.
  • NEW:
    • 2: Stamina Recovery
    • 3: Max Health
    • 4: Max Health
    • 5: After successfully blocking, heal for 8000 Health. This effect can occur every 5 seconds.

This is literally the only change I'm upset about in the PTS notes. I have a golded out set of this, now it's worthless for all the builds I use it for. This change is fairly upsetting. I know that the set bonuses are moving to the Ward of cyrodiil set, but unless my current crest set is getting magically changed to ward, then I'm just out all the mats/gold I invested into this set.

Why not make this change some other way that doesn't totally screw people who have this set golded out?

Tzayad

bump once for visability

Fischblut

I also want them to keep at least 3rd bonus of Ward set same as it is on live currently :'( The difference in mounted speed is really noticeable when I take off this set.

Sandman929

This kind of thing wouldn't be such a bother if they'd just return all gold mats on deconstruction.

Tzayad

Sandman929 wrote: »

This kind of thing wouldn't be such a bother if they'd just return all gold mats on deconstruction.

AT LEAST in cases where they change a set so drastically.

Similar to how Hearthstone does their nerfs. If a card is changed drastically, you can disenchant for full dust value. I think that should be implemented here.

Eddyble

Not to thread jack the change to the set, but at first glance of the new setup, does this not seem to counter the previous changes to the game in an effort to stop permablocking? I'd imagine this is just as unwelcome.

Lord_Eomer

Tzayad wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Item Sets

• Crest of Cyrodiil: This item set has been redesigned, and its old effect has been moved to the Ward of Cyrodiil Item Set.
  • OLD:
    • 2: Weapon Damage
    • 3: Max Health
    • 4: Healing Taken
    • 5: When you deal melee damage, you apply Minor Defile to the enemy for 5 seconds, reducing their healing received by 30%. This effect can occur once every 5 seconds.
  • NEW:
    • 2: Stamina Recovery
    • 3: Max Health
    • 4: Max Health
    • 5: After successfully blocking, heal for 8000 Health. This effect can occur every 5 seconds.

This is literally the only change I'm upset about in the PTS notes. I have a golded out set of this, now it's worthless for all the builds I use it for. This change is fairly upsetting. I know that the set bonuses are moving to the Ward of cyrodiil set, but unless my current crest set is getting magically changed to ward, then I'm just out all the mats/gold I invested into this set.

Why not make this change some other way that doesn't totally screw people who have this set golded out?

ZOS is playing worse, adding Stam recovery to tank sets

Yolokin_Swagonborn

Lord_Dexter wrote: »

Tzayad wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Item Sets

• Crest of Cyrodiil: This item set has been redesigned, and its old effect has been moved to the Ward of Cyrodiil Item Set.
  • OLD:
    • 2: Weapon Damage
    • 3: Max Health
    • 4: Healing Taken
    • 5: When you deal melee damage, you apply Minor Defile to the enemy for 5 seconds, reducing their healing received by 30%. This effect can occur once every 5 seconds.
  • NEW:
    • 2: Stamina Recovery
    • 3: Max Health
    • 4: Max Health
    • 5: After successfully blocking, heal for 8000 Health. This effect can occur every 5 seconds.

This is literally the only change I'm upset about in the PTS notes. I have a golded out set of this, now it's worthless for all the builds I use it for. This change is fairly upsetting. I know that the set bonuses are moving to the Ward of cyrodiil set, but unless my current crest set is getting magically changed to ward, then I'm just out all the mats/gold I invested into this set.

Why not make this change some other way that doesn't totally screw people who have this set golded out?

ZOS is playing worse, adding Stam recovery to tank sets

This new change seems just like an afterthought. A heal that will only be 4k after battle spirit occurring every 5 seconds is a very lackluster set. So they take something that at least had an application and now nerf everyone who currently uses it by switching the effect to a different set. then, in its place, put a boring tank set with no real creativity.

Silver_Strider

This will be a buff if you Tank with an Ice Staff

Chilly-McFreeze

Im a bit upset about this too. Just transmuted jewels and weapons and now they swap the boni to some other set. That’s how you angry your costumers. Especially since this change makes no sense. The new boni is bad and it being a heavy armor set with defile can’t be the reason bc duroks still exists as easy to apply no cooldown aoe heavy set.

Tzayad

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

Im a bit upset about this too. Just transmuted jewels and weapons and now they swap the boni to some other set. That’s how you angry your costumers. Especially since this change makes no sense. The new boni is bad and it being a heavy armor set with defile can’t be the reason bc duroks still exists as easy to apply no cooldown aoe heavy set.

Same, transmuted jewlery (including a gold ring), golded out axes. Now its just going to be decon fodder.

kookster

Why the heck did you (being zos) switch the freaking sets around. THIS MAKES NO [PROFANITY] SENSE [/yelling]. But seriously. No sense. Make the ward set be the new block effect, cause its about blocking. And make crest about defile, cause its already about defile. There is no reason to switch them. Unless your goal is to annoy people, cause it will work.

WeylandLabs

And that's why I havent golded out sets in 2 years, if you cant kill with purple you don't belong in PvP. Plus golding out sets is not much of a difference tbh... Welcome to ESO new players.

Rule number 23# Never gold out sets you think will get nerfed.

Chilly-McFreeze

Shokasegambit1 wrote: »

And that's why I havent golded out sets in 2 years, if you cant kill with purple you don't belong in PvP. Plus golding out sets is not much of a difference tbh... Welcome to ESO new players.

Rule number 23# Never gold out sets you think will get nerfed.

If you think a gold weapon makes no difference to a purple one you shouldn't be posting at all.

And the thing is nobody was expecting a nerf to crest, especially not when there is another heavy defile set with similar stats but far better 5p boni around. On the other hand, there are vastly overperforming sets that get a joke of a nerf - but guess that's just an incentive to buy the new content.

WeylandLabs

I'm sorry I was just concerned about how much effort you put into this set as posted. Golding out weapons is obviously a must, but I was looking when you said "then I'm just out all the mats" I assumed you put 40 temps into the body pieces, in this case you bought gold jewelry and golded out weapons.

Weapons are a must, and with all the complaints about defile it was ethier Duroks, fassalas ( Again ) or crest that was going to get nerfed It's common sence after 3 + years playing eso... Plus mats and gold are ez to get solo imo only new players get upset about wasting mats and gold, it's apart of the game get used to it.

GreenSoup2HoT

I agree, gold crest jewerly cost a lot of AP and i dont have Ward jewerly. Please convert old crest into ward gear first.

WeylandLabs

@GreenSoup2HoT Why would you buy gold crest jewelry for AP ? Last year people were practically giving it out in vendors from rewards of the worthy end of campaign rewards, for like 5 to 10k.

All sets can change at a drop of a dime, I had to learn that when fassalas got nerfed. But I guess it doesn't happen to a lot of builds, only dot builds.

barshemm

Duroks is a heavy set that applies defile when attacked. Ward is going to be a medium set that applies defile when you attack, and will add some extra recovery.

GreenSoup2HoT

Shokasegambit1 wrote: »

@GreenSoup2HoT Why would you buy gold crest jewelry for AP ? Last year people were practically giving it out in vendors from rewards of the worthy end of campaign rewards, for like 5 to 10k.

All sets can change at a drop of a dime, I had to learn that when fassalas got nerfed. But I guess it doesn't happen to a lot of builds, only dot builds.

I take multiple breaks from the game to avoid bad "seasons" i guess. Just a shame i gotta scrap crest after i recently got it. I even farmed the daggers from the delve, glad i didnt gold them out.

TankHealz2015

I love the change to this set.

If you a frost staff. please put it on guild trader. i will buy.