Could ESO (and other MMOs) be used to farm/mine cryptocurrency

moonio

So I was thinking about how time spent working/grinding in ESO could be translated/tied to multiple, repetitive processes in the real world where real world money was the outcome/endgame
and came across this article

https://cryptobriefing.com/video-games-mining-cryptocurrency/

and also saw that an actual cryptocurrency is being developed with this in mind

http://jewelz.webflow.io/

Thoughts?

Kiralyn2000

Thoughts?

Crytocurrency is a plague/scam/silly-thing, and needs to die. I want to be able to buy graphics cards for rational prices again.

Orticia

Cryptocurrency, the spend 100's in electricity running computers for no other reason, overnight/whatever, don't even look at it, to mine a fraction of that money's worth in air bubble currency. Yeah that's going to help the planet and our energy balance.

Emmm... I guess I am on the cryptocurrency needs to die team as well. So... nope.

firedrgn

Its basicly energy =

We can not produce enough electricity to take crypto much further. It takes too much energy allready to crack the block.

RexyCat

moonio wrote: »

So I was thinking about how time spent working/grinding in ESO could be translated/tied to multiple, repetitive processes in the real world where real world money was the outcome/endgame
and came across this article

https://cryptobriefing.com/video-games-mining-cryptocurrency/

and also saw that an actual cryptocurrency is being developed with this in mind

http://jewelz.webflow.io/

Thoughts?

Could you Moonio, explain how cryptocurrency have anything to do with ESO and that without forcing people to go to external sites which you are linking to here in your post?

swippy

yeah a summary of the relevant info would be useful. i'm all about reading, but just saying "hey look at this! now discuss." on a restricted forum is not exactly stimulating.

moonio

I guess it depends on how curiously minded you are..
im not forcing anyone to click on anything.

How much energy consumption is required for us to play eso? I'm not sure if it would be that different to mining currency..

Minyassa

Ye gods, I flipping hope not. The miners would find a way to ruin games for us too, instead of just making it so nobody with a normal income can afford a good vidcard. Hate this crap.

Orticia

moonio wrote: »

I guess it depends on how curiously minded you are..
im not forcing anyone to click on anything.

How much energy consumption is required for us to play eso? I'm not sure if it would be that different to mining currency..

Well playing eso you spend energy do do something you like doing, playing the game. Well if you leave the game on whole days without being behind the keyboard entertaining yourself, burning the energy, just to auto kill some lowly mobs to auto loot and sell for peanuts in game gold wise... then yeah it is probably comparable. It's about what you do with the energy spend (both in money and the effect on the environment) and what you get in return for it. Spending a lot of money in energy (regardless on who is paying for it) just for someone to get a fraction of it in return. Basically you are burning energy and money to shift some of the money to someone... isn't quite the same as spending energy to actually entertain yourself.

Sure if you actively play the game, enjoy it and on the side without changing anything in both energy consumption and fun to be had, and earn some cryptocurrency on the side as it won't cost anything. Then sure, But costing nothing doesn't exist. Call me skeptical but money doesn't materialize out of thin air and there are always agenda's and some people who (ab)use it to enrich themselves, regardless of the cost to others. Also people generally don't hand money over just because someone else asks nicely if they think they have nothing to gain from it.

moonio

To be honest my initial thoughts on the subject revolved around binding gameplay to repetitive mundane network related tasks that nobody particularly wants to do.

I sort of stumbled across the cryptocurrency part of it by accident.

I'm mostly interested in the concept of making real world work fun through gaming, MMO players will happily spend hrs grinding in a game but possibly wouldn't want to do a real world job that involves an equivalent amount of grind.
....

Is there a way?

Orticia

moonio wrote: »

To be honest my initial thoughts on the subject revolved around binding gameplay to repetitive mundane network related tasks that nobody particularly wants to do.

I sort of stumbled across the cryptocurrency part of it by accident.

I'm mostly interested in the concept of making real world work fun through gaming, MMO players will happily spend hrs grinding in a game but possibly wouldn't want to do a real world job that involves an equivalent amount of grind.
....

Is there a way?

I could say... no, no there is no way to earn money while playing. Not inside the game at any rate. While it would be nice to make money doing what you like doing anyway as an added bonus, I don't really see a workable idea. I don;t see a way any gameplay can also at the same time with the same keystrokes in some way execute those mundane network related tasks.

Steamers sometimes make money playing the game. That's one way to make money off the game. But unless you tack non game related actions/work to the game you happen to be able to do while in game I don't see how anything you do in game can be of use to an outsider enough to give you money for. They need to gain something worth spending that money. And why would ESO offer that, legally it's a can of worms, and it might alienate a lot of players too as it would be heck of a lot more intrusive than their own adds. And you can already try to find online work and do that on a second screen while playing ESO.

Then there are those adds on mobile games you could watch in games to get some in game benefit, and the one paying for/offering that gains add revenue through that. But heck no burn it burn it with fire, lets keep that miles away from eso.

AlienatedGoat

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

Thoughts?

Crytocurrency is a plague/scam/silly-thing, and needs to die. I want to be able to buy graphics cards for rational prices again.

Soon. AMD and Nvidia are working on releasing units designed for bitmining that are more power efficient and powerful than GPU mining.

moonio

To be honest I think most of the bots in the game are already doing this, maybe not as sophisticatedly as binding actions to processes, but farming resources to sell for gold, then sell again for real money for sure..

Jayman1000

Sure it could. Much like Piratebay are running crypto software on users machines that visit the site, ESO client could be made to do the same with players machines. It's software after all, anything is possible. It would be terribly controversial not to say immoral of course. But technically, yes of course it would be possible. Of course each player would generating a tiny tiny amount of crypto, but ZOS would rake it all in, that could be profitable if millions of users each day played eso generating crypto. But for each player there would be absolutely no profit to be had at all. Unless of course it was a new/currently worthless cryptocurrency that would explode in value in the future, like bitcoin have done.

Ohtimbar

Oh boy, a new way to waste electricity

moonio

Seems its already happening!!

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018-07-30-steam-game-abstractism-turns-pcs-into-cryptocurrency-miners

UnseenCat

I'd just rather have all my in-game gold turn into real money...

SteveCampsOut

moonio wrote: »

So I was thinking about how time spent working/grinding in ESO could be translated/tied to multiple, repetitive processes in the real world where real world money was the outcome/endgame
and came across this article

https://cryptobriefing.com/video-games-mining-cryptocurrency/

and also saw that an actual cryptocurrency is being developed with this in mind

http://jewelz.webflow.io/

Thoughts?

I brought up a year ago and was attacked most vociferously for it. After seeing how Control Finance and BitConnect and quite a few other platforms ran off with people's money. I now understand why.

moonio

Yeah I didn't mention it because I thought it was a good thing, more that if games can be used to farm cryptocurrency then what other 'work' could they do.
Because we spend so much time in these games they may as well do something useful in our real lives too..

For example.. even the heat generated by the servers could be used to power something.. or just heat water for homes..
or what if the process of farming resource nodes could also be tied to farming in real life.. I dont know how that would work lol.. but hey.. anything is possible..