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So, with the advent of Perfect Vestment of Olorime. SPC = dead?
Knowledge
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(5 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Magicka & Ground based effect abilities cast apply a circle of might on the ground for 10 seconds. Standing inside the circle grants you and your allies Major Courage, which increases your Weapon and Spell Damage by 258 for 30 seconds. 10 seconds cooldown.
https://eso-sets.com/set/perfect-vestment-of-olorime
https://eso-sets.com/set/perfect-vestment-of-olorime
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DuskMarine✭✭✭✭✭
✭(5 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Magicka & Ground based effect abilities cast apply a circle of might on the ground for 10 seconds. Standing inside the circle grants you and your allies Major Courage, which increases your Weapon and Spell Damage by 258 for 30 seconds. 10 seconds cooldown.
https://eso-sets.com/set/perfect-vestment-of-olorime
id still rather use spc in some situations over this2 -
Knowledge✭✭✭✭✭
✭DuskMarine wrote: »(5 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Magicka & Ground based effect abilities cast apply a circle of might on the ground for 10 seconds. Standing inside the circle grants you and your allies Major Courage, which increases your Weapon and Spell Damage by 258 for 30 seconds. 10 seconds cooldown.
https://eso-sets.com/set/perfect-vestment-of-olorime
id still rather use spc in some situations over this
Doesn't SPC have a shorter buff time ?0 -
Wrecking_Blow_Spam✭✭✭✭✭
✭Why not both?
Xbox one EU
8 Flawless conquerors on all class specs (4 stam, 4 magicka)
Doesn't stand in red4 -
ArchMikem✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Its a trial set so hell no, ill keep using SPC.CP2,000 Master Explorer - AvA One Star General - Console Peasant - The Clan
Quest Objective: OMG Go Talk To That Kitty!3 -
Wrecking_Blow_Spam✭✭✭✭✭
✭Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »Why not both?
I don't think Major Courage can stack.
Is SPC considered major courage next patch?Xbox one EU
8 Flawless conquerors on all class specs (4 stam, 4 magicka)
Doesn't stand in red0 -
DuskMarine✭✭✭✭✭
✭DuskMarine wrote: »(5 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Magicka & Ground based effect abilities cast apply a circle of might on the ground for 10 seconds. Standing inside the circle grants you and your allies Major Courage, which increases your Weapon and Spell Damage by 258 for 30 seconds. 10 seconds cooldown.
https://eso-sets.com/set/perfect-vestment-of-olorime
id still rather use spc in some situations over this
Doesn't SPC have a shorter buff time ?
i never stop healing so i have an uptime of almost 100% on everyone(minus the people who run away) plus you have to deal with who isnt gonna know what that circle actually means thats why i said in some situations ill still use spc.3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »Why not both?
I don't think Major Courage can stack.
Is SPC considered major courage next patch?
Yeah.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭DuskMarine wrote: »(5 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Magicka & Ground based effect abilities cast apply a circle of might on the ground for 10 seconds. Standing inside the circle grants you and your allies Major Courage, which increases your Weapon and Spell Damage by 258 for 30 seconds. 10 seconds cooldown.
https://eso-sets.com/set/perfect-vestment-of-olorime
id still rather use spc in some situations over this
Doesn't SPC have a shorter buff time ?
Yeah, but SPC can go wherever you can heal. Vestment is more restricted, because people have to swing by and say hi, to get the buff.3 -
Knowledge✭✭✭✭✭
✭DuskMarine wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »(5 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Magicka & Ground based effect abilities cast apply a circle of might on the ground for 10 seconds. Standing inside the circle grants you and your allies Major Courage, which increases your Weapon and Spell Damage by 258 for 30 seconds. 10 seconds cooldown.
https://eso-sets.com/set/perfect-vestment-of-olorime
id still rather use spc in some situations over this
Doesn't SPC have a shorter buff time ?
i never stop healing so i have an uptime of almost 100% on everyone(minus the people who run away) plus you have to deal with who isnt gonna know what that circle actually means thats why i said in some situations ill still use spc.
Yes, but in harder content not everyone is always "tagging 100% HP" to even have the 50% chance to get the buff.3 -
Knowledge✭✭✭✭✭
✭starkerealm wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »(5 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Magicka & Ground based effect abilities cast apply a circle of might on the ground for 10 seconds. Standing inside the circle grants you and your allies Major Courage, which increases your Weapon and Spell Damage by 258 for 30 seconds. 10 seconds cooldown.
https://eso-sets.com/set/perfect-vestment-of-olorime
id still rather use spc in some situations over this
Doesn't SPC have a shorter buff time ?
Yeah, but SPC can go wherever you can heal. Vestment is more restricted, because people have to swing by and say hi, to get the buff.
The item requires you to use a ground based effect anyway. So you put Healing Springs on the group and they also get Major Courage. I'm not sure why anyone would have to do anything differently.
Ground based effect abilities cast apply a circle of might on the ground for 10 seconds.1 -
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✭DuskMarine wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »(5 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Magicka & Ground based effect abilities cast apply a circle of might on the ground for 10 seconds. Standing inside the circle grants you and your allies Major Courage, which increases your Weapon and Spell Damage by 258 for 30 seconds. 10 seconds cooldown.
https://eso-sets.com/set/perfect-vestment-of-olorime
id still rather use spc in some situations over this
Doesn't SPC have a shorter buff time ?
i never stop healing so i have an uptime of almost 100% on everyone(minus the people who run away) plus you have to deal with who isnt gonna know what that circle actually means thats why i said in some situations ill still use spc.
Yes, but in harder content not everyone is always "tagging 100% HP" to even have the 50% chance to get the buff.
if you have hots of like mad no one ever drops below 80% for more than a second. it really depends on your healer. but in some instances like dungeons(or god help me pugs if no ones on) those people will probly not know what that circle means at all or even run from it thinking its an enemy aoe. but in trials yea this set once your get it is bis but its with smart people. but since itll last for 30 seconds we can finally roll one healer holding it while another rolls something else.1 -
Knowledge✭✭✭✭✭
✭DuskMarine wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »(5 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Magicka & Ground based effect abilities cast apply a circle of might on the ground for 10 seconds. Standing inside the circle grants you and your allies Major Courage, which increases your Weapon and Spell Damage by 258 for 30 seconds. 10 seconds cooldown.
https://eso-sets.com/set/perfect-vestment-of-olorime
id still rather use spc in some situations over this
Doesn't SPC have a shorter buff time ?
i never stop healing so i have an uptime of almost 100% on everyone(minus the people who run away) plus you have to deal with who isnt gonna know what that circle actually means thats why i said in some situations ill still use spc.
Yes, but in harder content not everyone is always "tagging 100% HP" to even have the 50% chance to get the buff.
if you have hots of like mad no one ever drops below 80% for more than a second. it really depends on your healer. but in some instances like dungeons(or god help me pugs if no ones on) those people will probly not know what that circle means at all or even run from it thinking its an enemy aoe. but in trials yea this set once your get it is bis but its with smart people. but since itll last for 30 seconds we can finally roll one healer holding it while another rolls something else.
I mean, if you're doing vet trials people aren't consistently sitting at 100% HP to get the 10s major courage buff.
Being able to apply Major Courage regardless of their HP, with any ground based skill you use, will be much easier and it lasts longer (30s).
Healing Springs, Shards, Cleansing Ritual.5 -
Knowledge✭✭✭✭✭
✭Oakmontowls_ESO wrote: »Spc will still be better for pugs since the dps doesn't have to think
Do people have to think when you put healing springs on them?3 -
Bbsample197✭✭✭✭SPC and Olorime are literally the only good sets for healers, im glad theyve introduced a new good one spc is getting stale and no where near death like you want to anticipate2 -
zaria✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Olorime will have an benefit in trials there all stacks and its lots of damage so hard to keep
SPC win in more spread out or mobile fights like AS or lots of dungeons.
Olorime will also require some care from healer to not throw it on tank, still the long duration will let you have some misses.Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭You would never use this set in PvP ... it’s dead on arrival in Cyrodiil.0 -
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✭Taleof2Cities wrote: »You would never use this set in PvP ... it’s dead on arrival in Cyrodiil.
I think this is better than SPC if you have a healer using healing springs in your group because in PVP we get a lot of damage too and this buff stays for a long time.Edited by Sotha_Sil on May 19, 2018 9:34AMRestoration is a perfectly valid school of magic, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise! - Spells and incantations for those with the talent to cast them!0 -
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✭✭In dungeons SPC is still better since people run around more and SPC buffs up to 6 targets. In trials though new set will be better since everybody is mostly stacked and it can buff all your team.
Also the problem with the new set is that it creates a circle at a single spot and its not that big so players who are far need to run to this circle to get the buff and in messy fight you might not even see it. Also it has a 10 sec CD so you cant keep casting it at everyone.
Each will be better at different situation, but I would say the new set will surely be better in more organized groups4 -
Thorstienn✭✭✭Its 99% better; I removed 1% as it's from a trial not a dungeon.
It's buff lasts for 30seconds (more with Yovulds) with a 10 sec cooldown to reapply.
It applies as a targeted AoE that lingers (30secs is a while to just pop in the circle).
PUGs can run away but they'll get the buff anyway, then just hit them again 10, 20 secs later.
It applies to the whole raid group, so 2nd healer can run something else. And with both healers 100% uptime is all but guaranteed.
Finally it has no REAL requirements: AoE vs 50% chance on healing 100% health Allies.3 -
pteam✭✭✭Thorstienn wrote: »Its 99% better; I removed 1% as it's from a trial not a dungeon.
It's buff lasts for 30seconds (more with Yovulds) with a 10 sec cooldown to reapply.
It applies as a targeted AoE that lingers (30secs is a while to just pop in the circle).
PUGs can run away but they'll get the buff anyway, then just hit them again 10, 20 secs later.
It applies to the whole raid group, so 2nd healer can run something else. And with both healers 100% uptime is all but guaranteed.
Finally it has no REAL requirements: AoE vs 50% chance on healing 100% health Allies.
Are u sure the buff can apply to the whole raid group? Did anybody test this?The Flawless Conqueror
Xbox NA - its pteam
Completed vDSA - vHRC HM - vAA HM - vSO HM - vMoL - vHoF HM - vCR +1 - vMA Flawless 585k - vAS +2 HM0 -
N0TPLAYER2✭✭✭✭✭Would be fun to stack both. Then it hits everyone and the uptime chance could double.
This is somewhat better because of the 3rd piece bonus with the 5% damage to trial bosses.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Use of SPC would be situational for fights where movement is not so much as a group. I doubt seasoned healers will decon their SPC.
This will also depend on how disciplined the group.
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✭✭(5 items) Adds 1096 Maximum Magicka & Ground based effect abilities cast apply a circle of might on the ground for 10 seconds. Standing inside the circle grants you and your allies Major Courage, which increases your Weapon and Spell Damage by 258 for 30 seconds. 10 seconds cooldown.
https://eso-sets.com/set/perfect-vestment-of-olorime
This set has definitely edge over SPC for Vet Trials,
SPC adds max magicka + Spell Damage which is good where healer can add some DPS i.e. contents like vet dungeons.
This new set gives more sustain + survivability for healers, definitely yes for Vet HM Trials!Edited by Lord_Eomer on May 19, 2018 4:02PM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Mobile fights: SPC
Stationary fights: Olorime"We're all born under the same sky and on the same earth. Therefore, we all deserve the same amount of respect."
Tryxus of the Undying Song - Warden - PC/EU3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Depends on use & contextXbox One | EU | EP
Beardimus : VR16 Dunmer MagSorc [RIP MagDW 2015-2018]
Emperor of Sotha Sil 02-2018 & Sheogorath 05-2019
1st Emperor of RavenwatchAlts - - for the Lolz
Archimus : Bosmer Thief / Archer / Werewolf
Orcimus : Fat drunk Orc battlefield 1st aider
Scalimus - Argonian Sorc Healer / Pet master
Fighting small scale with : The SAXON Guild
Fighting with [PvP] : The Undaunted Wolves
Trading Guilds : TradersOfNirn | FourSquareTraders
Xbox One | NA | EP
Bëardimus : L43 Dunmer Magsorc / BG
Heals-With-Pets : VR16 Argonian Sorc PvP / BG Healer
Nordimus : VR16 Stamsorc
Beardimus le 13iem : L30 Dunmer Magsorc Icereach0
