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Templar Healer for Summerset

Norivar1
Norivar1
Hey all,

i have create a Templar healing build for summerset and wondered if there are any more experienced healers that would like to take a look and see what you think.

Race - Altmer
Attributes - 64 Magicka
Mundus - The Atronach

Front Bar - Resto
Combat Prayer
Mutagen
Energy Orb
Breath of life
Radiant Aura
Shooting Star

Back Bar - Destro
Luminous shards
Puncturing Sweep
Radiant Oppression
Channeled focus
Ritual of retribution
Solar Prison

Gear - All light
Slot - Item - Trait - Enchant
Helm - Earthgore - Infused - Multi
Shoulders - Earthgore - Divines - Magicka
Chest - Lich - Infused - Multi
Gloves - Lich - Divines - Magicka
Belt - Lich - Divines - Magicka
Legs - Lich - Infused - Multi
Boots - Lich - Divines - Magicka
Necklace - Sanctuary - Arcane - Magicka Recovery
Ring - Sanctuary - Arcane - Magicka Recovery
Ring - Sanctuary - Arcane - Magicka Recovery
Resto - Sanctuary - Powered - Weapon Dmg
Destro - Sanctuary - Sharpened - Weapon Dmg

Stats
Health - 11682
Magicka - 22691
Stamina - 9552
Magicka Recovery - 1715


the other combination, as we can now make jewelry in summerset are:

https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Redistributor+Set
2 - 1206 Max Health
3 - 1096 Max Stam
4 - 1096 Max Mag
5 - When you heal yourself while at full Health, heal a nearby ally for 2347. This effect can happen once every 3 seconds.
And
https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Armor+of+the+Seducer+Set
2 - 129 Mag Rec
3 - 1096 Max Mag
4 - 129 Mag Rec
5 - Reduce the mag cost of abilities by 8%


Any feed back would be great i'm not trying to make a meta build just after advise from people that have more experience playing healers / more time playing the game









  • jaws343
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    On your main (restro) bar you need Healing Springs. Without it, you are not going to be healing that well.

    Lich is not very useful on a healer. It will never/rarely proc.

    Also, your magicka and health are critically low. You need at least 30K magicka and 16K health. At a minimum.

    And you are running a destro back bar but you are not using a single destro skill. You should at least be running wall of elements. Drop channeled focus for that.

    And on your front bar, as a healer, you should at least be running one group support or healing ultimate. Since you are not trying for a meta build, I would run the restro ult or the templar healing ult. Warhorn would be the best option though.

    There are a lot of other things I could point out, but they would just be directing you to the meta. The meta is the meta for a reason, it is the best optimization for healing. And you are so close to it that it doesn't make any sense why you would avoid it. Spell Power Cure (or the new trial set with Summerset) and Worm Cult/Mending are a far superior combo than any of the sets you have listed.
  • Norivar1
    Norivar1
    Thanks for the feedback @jaws343

    can i ask why 'wall of elements'?

    Ok i was thinking of War horn but was't sue if it would be better with the mage guild passives.

    I didn't know i was that close to the meta then sorry.

    So Sanctuary is not a good set to run then? and best i start grinding Spell Power Cure :-)

    In regards to the health and magicka should i be changing my enchants around then? as food isn't going to hit the magic number
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    Yeah, you can run all max magicka enchants. Bi-stat Food should get your health and magicka up a bit more as well. Do you have CP? Because CP will also increase your max stats to a certain point.

    Wall of elements fits two purposes. Ideally, you are running a lightning staff back bar. The lightning wall gives a chance to proc off balance. But, without a destro skill slotted, you gain nothing from any of the destro passives. And a lightning staff increases the damage of your AOE's.

    If you don't want to run wall of elements, you could run elemental drain. But you need to have a skill slotted either way, or else running the destro staff on the back bar is useless.
  • Tasear
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    Wall of elements is very useful

    * Increase uptime of concussion
    * procs off balance
    * double resources from heavy attacks to allies when eniemies are off balanced.
    * Does aoe damage for decent duration at low cost.
    * can proc implosion on supreme shock healer class :p
    Edited by Tasear on May 14, 2018 2:06PM
  • maltinkilic
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    Use healing springs. Either take energy orb or luminus shards, no need for both. Also no need for two offensive ulties. In addition to solar prison, use warhorn, barrier resto staff ulti etc but not shooting star with solar prison.

    For items: monster set: troll king is nice. No need for lich use worm raiment and farm SPC if you have eso+ or imperial city dlc. but for beginners sanctuary can be used also.
  • Norivar1
    Norivar1
    @jaws343 I haven't looked at CP yet as wanted to get gear / bars sorted first.

    Ill see about putting Wall of elements on the bar then.

    Guess if Sanctuary is not worth it ill get rid,

    so SPC and Worm - Change ult - have wall of ele on :smile:

    so in your experience how low should recov be?
  • Tasear
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    Okay,

    Why do you feel santuary is useful? There's only a few places besides in pvp I could actually understand.

    Do you have access to clockwork, what, dragon bones, or summerset?

    How well do you sustain? You have challed focus too so do you run into any issues?

    It's a bit rough to ask, but do you properly heavy attack? Because you are missing major mending.

    Are you aware that orbs are shards ate on same cool down of 20 secs?

    Why do you have weapons damage glyph on your back bar? Are you after more damage or support? Weakening, shock, fire, or even posion is better?

    You are using the wrost trait on your destro for a healer. I mean anything else would honestly be better. If you are after more damage go precise or nirn ( depends on your spell damage).

    Have you completed first healer test with this build? Darkshade 2 hm will tell you if have enough hol, because many people are going ask where is healing springs. Next test is pinion boss in wgt. So many things will be tested there.

    Still congratulations on your first build. It's a okay novice one.
  • Tasear
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    Norivar1 wrote: »
    @jaws343 I haven't looked at CP yet as wanted to get gear / bars sorted first.

    Ill see about putting Wall of elements on the bar then.

    Guess if Sanctuary is not worth it ill get rid,

    so SPC and Worm - Change ult - have wall of ele on :smile:

    so in your experience how low should recov be?

    1500 is lowest I heard Templars using. It's okay since you have channelled focus. Still personally 1800 is my min, but I play all classes of healers.

    Spc and worm is last season :p

    It's 5 guidance, 5 vestment, 2 monster (sentiental, earthgore, or troll king) and aslylum staff or master staff. This is best setup.


    Edited by Tasear on May 14, 2018 2:31PM
  • Tasear
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    Spc or vestment depending on trial or dungeons and how well people have to move.

    Spc/master architect is potentially best comb in 4 man dungeons.
  • Norivar1
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    @Tasear

    Why do you feel santuary is useful? - thought the 12% increase in healing would be a good thing

    Do you have access to clockwork, what, dragon bones, or summerset? - Got eso+ and summerset

    Are you aware that orbs are shards ate on same cool down of 20 secs? - no i wasn't (my Noob moment :smile: )

    if it helps i have this guy at 3rd level this was just so i know where im trying to go and what gear to gind (got a warden tank)

    thanks glad its not a complete throw away build hehe.

    I went with the thought of if i start off knowing the spells and gear then i can focus on learning them more and leveling the correct ones
  • Tasear
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    Always good to have more healers. Just remember this moment and that that all classes are effective healers as you might forget it later.


    Santuary could be useful depending on your champion points, but healing is over powered in this game. Baselie is 2000 - 2500 on healing springs for people as a mesurement. Just proc major mending Hy heavy attacking ( when character elbow goes behind head it's an heavy attack)



    On point there's a lot of ways to heal and support. Your job is finding a healthy balance between what's useful for others and how you enjoy to play. For example, I am most famous ..or infamous Sorc healer in all of tamerial. Also, I take resident here and answer a question about healing for past year. So yeah the key is balance and finding your own play style.

  • Norivar1
    Norivar1
    @Tasear thanks for your feedback buddy,

    i only went templar healer as like the idea and already got a warden tank and DK tank.

    I have taken on everything that people are saying and will feed that back into my build / gear set up

    will defo try and hit the magic numbers of 30K Mag and 16K Health.


    so as long as my healing springs is hitting 2000 - 2500, then happy days :smile:
  • Liofa
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    Here is what I came up with after some theorycrafting for summerset. Made my healers test it on PTS, got very nice results. Very happy with it and most likely will be running it in our group next patch ^^

    - Olorime (3 jewelry+Lightning Staff back bar)
    - 2 piece Monster Set (Sentinel whenever I can use and Lord Warden everywhere else)
    - 5 body pieces (Aether, Sanctuary, Worm, Jorvulds whichever is wanted)
    - Asylum Resto front bar for incredible sustain.

    Resto: Main bar for healing, buffing and supporting.

    - Combat Prayer: For proccing Asylum Staff. I use it every 3 seconds to keep 100% uptime on minor berserk on allies and for my own sustain.
    - Energy Orb: Throw 1 or 2 after casting Combat Prayer and get 30% cost reduction on it.
    - Healing Springs: My basic healing skill.
    - Breath of Life: Emergency button.
    - Quick Siphon: Provides a small DoT on everyone.
    - Barrier: Here for the first passive of Support tree, 10% Magicka Recovery.

    Destro: Swap here every 10 seconds and throw shards as first thing you do, rest is just usual healer stuff.

    - Shards: Throw it on your DDs to make sure Olorime spawns on them.
    - Blockade: Off Balance and easy enchant procs.
    - Channeled Focus: Tankiness and sustain.
    - Extended Ritual: Minor Mending and AOE heals.
    - Elemental Drain: Magicka support for allies.
    - Warhorn: Well, no need to explain.

    Atronach Mundus
    1 Magicka Recovery and 2 Magicka Cost reduction enchants.
    3 Infused 4 Divines. All tri-stat enchants.
    Max Health+Max Magicka food. Can swap to Witchmothers during combat if necessary.
    All attributes in Magicka.
    Spell Damage+Spell Crit+Restore Magicka potions.

    Just tweak this for your playstyle and class ^^ It works really good on Warden too btw. I tested personally, was amazing ^^
  • Tasear
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    Norivar1 wrote: »
    @Tasear thanks for your feedback buddy,

    i only went templar healer as like the idea and already got a warden tank and DK tank.

    I have taken on everything that people are saying and will feed that back into my build / gear set up

    will defo try and hit the magic numbers of 30K Mag and 16K Health.


    so as long as my healing springs is hitting 2000 - 2500, then happy days :smile:

    17.5 health is based for all content in game. This is your goal.

    Average Max Magicka is 35k to 40k at end game.

    Next question are you using food?
  • Norivar1
    Norivar1
    Tasear wrote: »
    Norivar1 wrote: »
    @Tasear thanks for your feedback buddy,

    i only went templar healer as like the idea and already got a warden tank and DK tank.

    I have taken on everything that people are saying and will feed that back into my build / gear set up

    will defo try and hit the magic numbers of 30K Mag and 16K Health.


    so as long as my healing springs is hitting 2000 - 2500, then happy days :smile:

    17.5 health is based for all content in game. This is your goal.

    Average Max Magicka is 35k to 40k at end game.

    Next question are you using food?

    No as wasn't sure what would be better, pure magicka or tri stat...
  • Tasear
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    Norivar1 wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    Norivar1 wrote: »
    @Tasear thanks for your feedback buddy,

    i only went templar healer as like the idea and already got a warden tank and DK tank.

    I have taken on everything that people are saying and will feed that back into my build / gear set up

    will defo try and hit the magic numbers of 30K Mag and 16K Health.


    so as long as my healing springs is hitting 2000 - 2500, then happy days :smile:

    17.5 health is based for all content in game. This is your goal.

    Average Max Magicka is 35k to 40k at end game.

    Next question are you using food?

    No as wasn't sure what would be better, pure magicka or tri stat...

    Blue food or witch mother ( always buy in raklwa ;) ) I am assuming you pick one popular healer races? So you can make up for stats via attributes or enchaments. You can get cost reduction in stamina in champion points and medium amour tree
    Oh yes.. btw your monster set is heavy helm and medium shoulder yes?
  • Norivar1
    Norivar1
    Tasear wrote: »
    Norivar1 wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    Norivar1 wrote: »
    @Tasear thanks for your feedback buddy,

    i only went templar healer as like the idea and already got a warden tank and DK tank.

    I have taken on everything that people are saying and will feed that back into my build / gear set up

    will defo try and hit the magic numbers of 30K Mag and 16K Health.


    so as long as my healing springs is hitting 2000 - 2500, then happy days :smile:

    17.5 health is based for all content in game. This is your goal.

    Average Max Magicka is 35k to 40k at end game.

    Next question are you using food?

    No as wasn't sure what would be better, pure magicka or tri stat...

    Blue food or witch mother ( always buy in raklwa ;) ) I am assuming you pick one popular healer races? So you can make up for stats via attributes or enchaments. You can get cost reduction in stamina in champion points and medium amour tree
    Oh yes.. btw your monster set is heavy helm and medium shoulder yes?

    I went High Elf as look cool, was going for Argoinan but already got one as Tank. and no i was going to go all light, im guessing by the question that i might want to rethink that hehe
  • Tasear
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    Norivar1 wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    Norivar1 wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    Norivar1 wrote: »
    @Tasear thanks for your feedback buddy,

    i only went templar healer as like the idea and already got a warden tank and DK tank.

    I have taken on everything that people are saying and will feed that back into my build / gear set up

    will defo try and hit the magic numbers of 30K Mag and 16K Health.


    so as long as my healing springs is hitting 2000 - 2500, then happy days :smile:

    17.5 health is based for all content in game. This is your goal.

    Average Max Magicka is 35k to 40k at end game.

    Next question are you using food?

    No as wasn't sure what would be better, pure magicka or tri stat...

    Blue food or witch mother ( always buy in raklwa ;) ) I am assuming you pick one popular healer races? So you can make up for stats via attributes or enchaments. You can get cost reduction in stamina in champion points and medium amour tree
    Oh yes.. btw your monster set is heavy helm and medium shoulder yes?

    I went High Elf as look cool, was going for Argoinan but already got one as Tank. and no i was going to go all light, im guessing by the question that i might want to rethink that hehe

    Yep passives in heavy and medium are too useful to miss out on.
  • Horowonnoe
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    Norivar1 wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    Norivar1 wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    Norivar1 wrote: »
    @Tasear thanks for your feedback buddy,

    i only went templar healer as like the idea and already got a warden tank and DK tank.

    I have taken on everything that people are saying and will feed that back into my build / gear set up

    will defo try and hit the magic numbers of 30K Mag and 16K Health.


    so as long as my healing springs is hitting 2000 - 2500, then happy days :smile:

    17.5 health is based for all content in game. This is your goal.

    Average Max Magicka is 35k to 40k at end game.

    Next question are you using food?

    No as wasn't sure what would be better, pure magicka or tri stat...

    Blue food or witch mother ( always buy in raklwa ;) ) I am assuming you pick one popular healer races? So you can make up for stats via attributes or enchaments. You can get cost reduction in stamina in champion points and medium amour tree
    Oh yes.. btw your monster set is heavy helm and medium shoulder yes?

    I went High Elf as look cool, was going for Argoinan but already got one as Tank. and no i was going to go all light, im guessing by the question that i might want to rethink that hehe

    High elf is perfectly fine as a healer. Breton, Argonian and High Elf are all 3 great. Each has a slightly different playstyle and slight differences but all three races are best in slot.
    PC / NA
    Templar Healer "False Eye"
    Sorc Healer "Potema the Wolf Queen"
    Warden Healer "Heavy Attacks Online"
    Magicka Nightblade DPS "Nephaleth Telvanni"
    Dragonknight Tank "Nico's Facsimile"

    Builds & Guides:
    Horow's Templar Healer Guide for Trials (Murkmire updated)
    How to get Felms to jump correctly in vAS HM?
    Horow's vMA Magicka Sorc Build for beginners and lazy farmers
    Horow's Magicka Sorc Triple Pet Heavy Attack Build - Summerset Isles Ready
    More builds at anthem-guild.com/pve/.

    Notable Achievements:
    - World's first 18 Axes vAA clear
    - World's first 20+ enrage stack Llothis in vAS HM and World record cone damage
  • Tasear
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    Horowonnoe wrote: »
    Norivar1 wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    Norivar1 wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    Norivar1 wrote: »
    @Tasear thanks for your feedback buddy,

    i only went templar healer as like the idea and already got a warden tank and DK tank.

    I have taken on everything that people are saying and will feed that back into my build / gear set up

    will defo try and hit the magic numbers of 30K Mag and 16K Health.


    so as long as my healing springs is hitting 2000 - 2500, then happy days :smile:

    17.5 health is based for all content in game. This is your goal.

    Average Max Magicka is 35k to 40k at end game.

    Next question are you using food?

    No as wasn't sure what would be better, pure magicka or tri stat...

    Blue food or witch mother ( always buy in raklwa ;) ) I am assuming you pick one popular healer races? So you can make up for stats via attributes or enchaments. You can get cost reduction in stamina in champion points and medium amour tree
    Oh yes.. btw your monster set is heavy helm and medium shoulder yes?

    I went High Elf as look cool, was going for Argoinan but already got one as Tank. and no i was going to go all light, im guessing by the question that i might want to rethink that hehe

    High elf is perfectly fine as a healer. Breton, Argonian and High Elf are all 3 great. Each has a slightly different playstyle and slight differences but all three races are best in slot.

    You can use other races for different reasons. From matter of play style to gameplay varietation.
  • Norivar1
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    Went highelf as the 2 dps i play with are highelf so thought it would look cool being a group of elves
    Edited by Norivar1 on May 14, 2018 4:44PM
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