How do you deal with DK who reflect all of your ablities?

Orjix

so i've been spending a lot of time in battlegrounds recently and i feel i am reasonably competent, by no means an excellent player, but i feel i can do decent and i can hang on with most people i face, with one exception DKs who reflect what seems like 100% of your abilities that you cast at them. crippling grasp? Right back at ya! assassins will? Right back at ya! flame reach? Right back at ya! heavy attack? Right back at ya! this is especially frustrating in chaos ball when your the only one around the carrier (who in this is one of the DKs im talking about) and you want to start wearing him down before the rest of your team gets there, but instead you just have to stand there and wait.
at this point im starting to feel like im approaching these fights all wrong. I dont play DK so i myself am not entirely sure how the ability works in game, so it just leaves me scratching my head. What about you guys, how do you fight them and what is the "accepted" way to fight them? just looking for a bit of advise here to hopefully improve my game

DeadlyRecluse

1. slot unreflectable abilities (easier said than done for some specs--but you could always through concealed weapon on an go melee for a round if you know that you're dealing with a flappy magDK ball carrier. Force Pulse also works).
2. Try to bait out wings and do some damage/burn their magicka pool. inconsistent at best.
3. Choose a different target.

Those are really your only options.

paulsimonps

There are plenty of abilities that can not be reflected. Try changing out your bars to perhaps utilize them a bit more. Lightning staff might not be a bad move either since its heavy attack can not be reflected. An unreflectable and unblockable CC ability if at all possible will be great against them.

Still_Mind

In addition to the posts above.

Find a Templar buddy, let them Eclipse the DK and cast anything you want on him. DK's reflects will cause damage to the DK himself, which can be quite hilarious against players who rely on wings too much.

Beardimus

I find them a nightmare too. As above you have to specifically slot stuff to handle then as a ranged DD.

People moan Bout Sorcs or OP at present Blades but at least their counters you probably have slotted.

Dueling a troll DK tank unprepared is a niggtmare

thankyourat

There really isn't much you can do but realized you are countered, And try to catch them off guard with a combo. If the dk has a lightning or resto staff back bar though it will be hard because while you are kiting they'll just heavy attack you and get resources back. Best thing to do is not commit fully to the fight until your team arrives. For solo PvP just ignore them.

Berenhir

As ranged mNB DK wings hardcounter your build. There is not much you can do except heavy resto him and wait for his wings to either drop or your buddies to pressure him.

However, magNB has brutal counters to magDK when played as shadow knight with fear, refreshing path, concealed/sap and veil of blades on a setup with sword and board/resto and e.g. war maiden + shalk + skoria/bloodspawn

Syncronaut

Hit them once so they waste mana then run. Once the shield is down use mana draining poision. Then kite and be sure you block any of his/her attacks so you dont get cced.

He can still cast Petrify on you however so be sure you have enogh starmina to breake this CC.
Once he is out of mana, he is dead and you can nuke him. (if he trys to use a staff CC him)

p00tx

Either knock them on their butt with a gap closer and kill quickly, or use resource poisons to drain their magicka. They can't use the skill if they're sapped of resources.

Waffennacht

Syncronaut wrote: »

Hit them once so they waste mana then run. Once the shield is down use mana draining poision. Then kite and be sure you block any of his/her attacks so you dont get cced.

He can still cast Petrify on you however so be sure you have enogh starmina to breake this CC.
Once he is out of mana, he is dead and you can nuke him. (if he trys to use a staff CC him)

GD poisons